Yamaha Nytro MTX 2008-10 Worth it?

[HAWKBC]

Been looking around for a 2008 and up skidoo 800s and been seeing some of these Nytros for sale and I'm curious if these would be any decent in powder riding and some small hills. Coming from an older two stroke I know theres probably a big learning curve going to a 4 stroke but I think I would like it.

I ride in BC so theres defiantly a lot of powder to deal with somedays so I'd prefer a sled that won't cause me to dig all day.

One of the sleds I have been watching is a stock 2008 Nytro 153" track low kms with a good listing price. They look very narrow upfront so it must carve quite well, wonder how sidehilling on these? These aren't much heavier than my current sled so I can't imagine its too much work to dig out.

I don't have a big budget to spend, only a few grand so I'm pretty limited on what I can get. I also don't want to buy a sled that's about to blow up. I'm not into hillclimbs mostly just rolling hills and maybe a little tree riding.

Anyone that has experience with these willing to share some info would be appreciated!!

 

[ABMax24]

My experience on these is limited, but know a few guys that had turbo'd Nytro's. They all sold their turbo Nytro's for stock 2 strokes because of the weight.

A stock nytro will be a dog, they are heavy and underpowered, 130hp I believe, that is 600cc 2-stroke territory with 100+lbs more weight.

What do you currently ride to compare to?

 

[HAWKBC]

I ride a yamaha mtn max right now, wanting something more nimble and easier to throw around. My pile is old and defiantly outdated so its due for a upgrade. All the prices I see are insane for some of the used sleds and would rather not have a high mileage time bomb.

 

[ABMax24]

That's the hard part with used and I have been before. I once bought a 98 rmk 700 over a 2003 rmk 800 to save $1000. A few months later I put $1500 into the motor because it broke a piston skirt. I could have bought the 800 for less all in.

I think it depends on how mechanically inclined you are, if it was me I'd be looking for a 11-15 Pro RMK and then do the top end upon buying.

 

[HAWKBC]

Yeah i'm mechanically inclined and can work on my own shet. What about 2010's? I thought they didn't need the fix kits. There are a few cheaper RMK's out there right now.

 

[ABMax24]

Avoid the 08-10 800's like the plague, they are probably the worst motor Polaris has ever made.

 

[DeNytroguy]

Been looking around for a 2008 and up skidoo 800s and been seeing some of these Nytros for sale and I'm curious if these would be any decent in powder riding and some small hills. Coming from an older two stroke I know theres probably a big learning curve going to a 4 stroke but I think I would like it.

I ride in BC so theres defiantly a lot of powder to deal with somedays so I'd prefer a sled that won't cause me to dig all day.

One of the sleds I have been watching is a stock 2008 Nytro 153" track low kms with a good listing price. They look very narrow upfront so it must carve quite well, wonder how sidehilling on these? These aren't much heavier than my current sled so I can't imagine its too much work to dig out.

I don't have a big budget to spend, only a few grand so I'm pretty limited on what I can get. I also don't want to buy a sled that's about to blow up. I'm not into hillclimbs mostly just rolling hills and maybe a little tree riding.

Anyone that has experience with these willing to share some info would be appreciated!!

Running a boosted Nytro myself at the moment. Not going to argue that they're heavier than a 2 stroke, however if your current sled is fairly similar in weight (quick google search says 515 lbs dry vs 540 dry for Nytro) I think your really going to like it. I wouldn't recommend a NA Nytro as it lacks power stock imo. If aren't into big climbs I would suggest a Nytro with a Turbo kit that's in the 180hp range (most kits adjust with elevation meaning you are still making the same 180hp at 2000' or 6000'. Plenty for Gederal riding imo. Go with the mtx as they have a better tunnel stock and a narrower front end. Oh and don't go supercharged, turbo all the way. For the most part these things are bulletproof.
Hope this helps.

 

[HUNT 24/7]

Been looking around for a 2008 and up skidoo 800s and been seeing some of these Nytros for sale and I'm curious if these would be any decent in powder riding and some small hills. Coming from an older two stroke I know theres probably a big learning curve going to a 4 stroke but I think I would like it.

I ride in BC so theres defiantly a lot of powder to deal with somedays so I'd prefer a sled that won't cause me to dig all day.

One of the sleds I have been watching is a stock 2008 Nytro 153" track low kms with a good listing price. They look very narrow upfront so it must carve quite well, wonder how sidehilling on these? These aren't much heavier than my current sled so I can't imagine its too much work to dig out.

I don't have a big budget to spend, only a few grand so I'm pretty limited on what I can get. I also don't want to buy a sled that's about to blow up. I'm not into hillclimbs mostly just rolling hills and maybe a little tree riding.

Anyone that has experience with these willing to share some info would be appreciated!!

For what you described I think you'd be happy on a TURBO Nytro, the weight isn't really a problem for powder & small hills, unless you want to get really steep or into tight trees. Lots of Turbo Nytro's selling cheap on Kijiji if you watch for them.

 

[ferniesnow]

..................I ride in BC so theres defiantly a lot of powder to deal with somedays so I'd prefer a sled that won't cause me to dig all day.

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That is your first clue.........dig all day.

I understand the reliability of the 4 strokes. Long tracks, turbos, and being able to ride make them work pretty good. Sure a lot of unhappy riders when they can't ride them and have to dig all day.

The 2 strokes are very reasonably priced in my mind and reading between the lines you are on a lower priced budget. I would stay away from a Polaris older than the 16's (motor issues). The Summits with an 800 eTec (2012 and newer) were bullet proof. You should be a 163" track and with the 2-strokes, you will be able to have and not spend all day digging.

 

[sc800]

That is your first clue.........dig all day.

I understand the reliability of the 4 strokes. Long tracks, turbos, and being able to ride make them work pretty good. Sure a lot of unhappy riders when they can't ride them and have to dig all day.

The 2 strokes are very reasonably priced in my mind and reading between the lines you are on a lower priced budget. I would stay away from a Polaris older than the 16's (motor issues). The Summits with an 800 eTec (2012 and newer) were bullet proof. You should be a 163" track and with the 2-strokes, you will be able to have and not spend all day digging.

I agree with this statement. Another sled to look at that are bullet proof and rip are M8's. 2008-11 years you can pick up for cheap and they go for ever.

 

[duncc]

We have a 2010 nytro mtx 162 that my dad bought a few years ago. It is mostly stock but has upgraded running boards and a challenger extreme track. I have a 2001 mountain max 700 that I still ride so I've spent lots of time on both. I convinced my dad to get the nytro because I thought it would be a nice reliable easy to ride sled that was good and fuel and easy to maintain. Unfortunately I was way off on the easy to ride part.

The bad: The biggest thing I've noticed is you need precise throttle control. The engine is extremely torquey off idle and has a lot more engine braking than a 2 stroke. This makes it really jerky if you don't have really good throttle control, something my dad hasn't been able to master. I changed out the primary clutch spring and this definitely helped but when I jump on it from my mountain max I really have to concentrate on my throttle control. As others have mentioned it is also heavy. I believe it's about the same weight as the max, but it 'feels' quite a bit heavier. It's not easy to throw around and the steering is much heavier than my max. Digging it out of the deep stuff can be just brutal. When we first got it it darted like crazy and was a real handful on the trails. The steering angle is really weird which contributes to this I believe. I put in some shims and new runners on the skis and this definitely helped and eliminated the darting on the trails. It's also very tippy. Another annoyance is the reverse lever. I've had to adjust it a few times and even then it can be a real PITA to engage reverse. Sometimes it freezes up a bit as well.

The good: The motor is a gem....I'm just not sure it's well suited for a snowmobile. It pulls really hard bottom to mid and then falls flat on the top (feels more like a 600 on top). It runs smooth and starts easy. The thing has been rock solid in terms of reliability, zero issues whatsoever.

I haven't ridden a turbo version which I imagine would feel like a different sled so I can't comment on that. But coming from a mountain max I just can't get used to this thing. The max is old school and heavy but it's easy to ride, predictable, and 'feels' more powerful than the stock nytro and I've got stuck less on the MM than on the nytro. Another thing I've noticed is that you almost always see nytros with turbo upgrades and/or ski/track/suspension/board upgrades. I think that says a lot. You can get them dialed but it takes patience and $$$. We've decided to part ways with ours and get my dad on an M8 or M8000 as the 2 strokes just seem to work better.

Just my 2 cents so take it for what it's worth.

 

[Bnorth]

if you do decide to go Nytro do not get the 153, it's way too heavy for that short track and the camoplast maverick on them is junk, no hookup. Do at least a 162 with a 2.5 challenger extreme on it. The better advice here is to find a good used 2010-11 M8 they are bulletproof sleds and have the same hp as today's 800's. As stated above you could also pick up a 2011 or 2012 pro rmk they go cheap used. Look for one with a fix kit in it or get it cheap enough that you can afford to put your own fix kit in.

 

[HAWKBC]

Yeah I think I'll past on the Nytro then, if it doesn't handle any better than my mtn max it's probably not worth it.

I guess I'll be on the lookout for 2010-11 M8s, 2011-12 Pro RMK, Skidoo PTEK or maybe an etec if it's within my price range.

Thanks so far for all the advice everyone! I'll keep searching

 

[catmando]

Prices are already dropping, bro just picked up a m600, that would be my suggestion for you, the 600 poo and cat are really easy too Ride, light and fun as any sled .Great on fuel too

 

[ABMax24]

Prices are already dropping, bro just picked up a m600, that would be my suggestion for you, the 600 poo and cat are really easy too Ride, light and fun as any sled .Great on fuel too

I would also agree with this, I have a 2012 600 Pro in the garage as well, they really aren't that far behind an 800 especially if the rider is lighter. Plus the 600 Polaris motors are near bullet proof.