maxwell
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all im saying is it runs the best compared to the other cans ive tried didnt say it makes more hp.
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all im saying is it runs the best compared to the other cans ive tried didnt say it makes more hp.
Dmf
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yea, im more worried about losing which has been proven with some cans on the plain 800r
takethebounce
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So if you were told XYZ can lost 1-2 HP at WOT at maximum recommended RPM would you not use that can?
What if that can made more HP through the mid range? Even better, what if XYZ can actually produced more HP at 100-200 rpm higher than the max RPM range specified for that sled but did not show it on the dyno report?
More importantly, why even consider HP numbers? I would be more interested in torque numbers. On top of that Dyno's can be manipulated by the user so unless it is a totally unbiased dyno report on all cans at a specified elevation and charts were actually provided for the report it is all speculation.
It is true that some cans can lead to a loss of usable power. Those cans usually come with a gimmick like carbon fibre or other fancy gizmos I am sure. But at the end of the day, will you feel a 1-2 HP loss in your thumb dyno?
If XYZ can weighs 5 pounds and ABC can weighs 15 pounds and the stock weights 25 pounds, but XYZ causes a 2-3 hp loss and ABC has 1-2 HP loss and the stock maintains power, what is more important? The weight of the can, or maintaining the HP?
Dmf
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Exactly, no your not gunna feel 1-3 hp gain on a can but you might feel a difference with a can that makes 10 hp less. And as for the dyno, this is very true but I'm taking it from someone who tested a few different cans on the same dyno same night just for the hell of it to see the results. That's why I was questioning on here if anyone had actually tried differ t cans on a dyno to see the difference. Hell I can go to my local peavey mart and buy a tractor muffler too and cut the top off and weld a elbow on and slap my name on it.So if you were told XYZ can lost 1-2 HP at WOT at maximum recommended RPM would you not use that can?
What if that can made more HP through the mid range? Even better, what if XYZ can actually produced more HP at 100-200 rpm higher than the max RPM range specified for that sled but did not show it on the dyno report?
More importantly, why even consider HP numbers? I would be more interested in torque numbers. On top of that Dyno's can be manipulated by the user so unless it is a totally unbiased dyno report on all cans at a specified elevation and charts were actually provided for the report it is all speculation.
It is true that some cans can lead to a loss of usable power. Those cans usually come with a gimmick like carbon fibre or other fancy gizmos I am sure. But at the end of the day, will you feel a 1-2 HP loss in your thumb dyno?
If XYZ can weighs 5 pounds and ABC can weighs 15 pounds and the stock weights 25 pounds, but XYZ causes a 2-3 hp loss and ABC has 1-2 HP loss and the stock maintains power, what is more important? The weight of the can, or maintaining the HP?
snopro
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Anyone that is looking for hp in a can needs to rethink the process. Cans don't make hp the pipe/y pipe does. The best can to buy is the one that doesn't lose hp and weighs the lightest. Some companies do a better job at it than others. Hope this helps.
takethebounce
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yes my post was suggesting that in a theory should a can make hp, what is more important to someone. I know can's do not allow for more HP to be made.
snopro
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Wasn't directing anything your way ttb.
polarisdragon800
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Since when do cans make HP? Frig as long as you don't lose more than 2 hp and it's light and sounds good who cares which you run?
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takethebounce
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Who said cans actually lead to an increase of HP?
Although Polaris spent a pile on lightweight cans for the Pro?
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jaredszakacs
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Loving my mbrp can on my 11 etec good sound nice crisp throttle response great fit and doesnt rattle around. nice and quiet just creeping around then she BARKS when you open it up. after the can i did BMP stage 1 kit with Y and main pipe and some clutching from Revolution Performance group (cory Micku) and absolutely love it! First pull and the sled fired right up and it has been sitting since april!
-lenny-
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Considering HPS, but don't want obnoxious. My M1000 has Jaws Twin pipes and stingers. Too loud. HPS can only on the XM won't be anywhere near that, correct?
omullinger
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I loved the MBRP can on my 11 etec aswell. I put an spi mid pipe on but not sure if I am happy with it yet. not enough seat time
Sask Sledder
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I ordered a Carbon Fiber can last week. On youtube it sounded the most like what i imagine an awesome dragon would sound like farting fire. Which is good.
Summitseeker
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I also loved my MBRP can on my 2012 and am going to order another for my 2013.
enis750
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Here is a youtube vid i found comparing the stocker to an HPS
HPS sounds awesome IMO
99% sure we have a winner here for mine
HPS sounds awesome IMO
99% sure we have a winner here for mine
-lenny-
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I am inclined to agree on both points... Thanks!
-lenny-
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Bumping to the top... Chrisco is bringing in HPS cans. Just waiting for the call to go pick them up!
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Frosty Mongeon
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Iv done alot of searching n i might go with the j&t can. Anyone have experience with it?
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