Why.........?

[Longhairfreak]

Hmmm.......
My 04 Rev HME had a 159x16, it got up on the snow fast but still trenched and tractored
My (now) 10 Iguana has a 155x15, it still gets up on the snow fast, trenches and tractors

I'm

There are other areas that need to be addressed for trenching issues.

 

[geo]

Floatation has something to do with LBS per square inch too. The LBS part could be the reason Doo decided on the 16" in the first place and have had to since.
Picture you and your girl friend out for a ride. You're 245 geared up with size 13 boots and she is 120 geared up with size 6. Who sinks further into the pow when you step off the sled. If you have a 174x16 2013 turbo Yam and she has a 141x15 1992 Phazer she will totally embarass you in powder on the flats in the trees.
I've also seen a 100 pound girl on 340 Bravo with a 116 3/4" track outclimb 141 2" high HP sleds in that days snow conditions. It was her first time on a sled and she just rode up to the top without ever pinning it, just enjoying the sun. Later at a break stop, everyone was telling her how incredible a rider she was. Her only question was " Why do you guys dig those big holes? Doesn't it ruin the trail?

Trenching has more to do with frontal area, suspention set-up, and machine-rider interface (skill) lol. Floatation is not a big deal here but, put the two together and you have the biggest selling mountainsled of the time.

`Cause that`s what we all want.

 

[Canuk]

The OP was a good question. We have often debated/considered why AC and POL haven't moved to 16. Physics dictates it should just flat out work. We wonder if there has to be drawbacks... only because if they weren't noticeable then WHY!! wouldn't they?

I do like the idea of stuffing a 16 under an M8 (if possible) and setting the up the same... then compare. My guess is that Maxwell is right. At the same time, a pair of XP's with each track would be a good idea at the same time.

 

[Longhairfreak]

The OP was a good question. We have often debated/considered why AC and POL haven't moved to 16. Physics dictates it should just flat out work. We wonder if there has to be drawbacks... only because if they weren't noticeable then WHY!! wouldn't they?

I do like the idea of stuffing a 16 under an M8 (if possible) and setting the up the same... then compare. My guess is that Maxwell is right. At the same time, a pair of XP's with each track would be a good idea at the same time.

There is an M8 with a 16 wide in existence.

 

[Go-Vertical]

Maybe a 15" wide track on a xm is too flickable. Just a thought. Good comparison would be to put a 15 wide in a xm and also leave one stock. Run them both up the hill and try it.

 

[d mills]

Floatation has something to do with LBS per square inch too. The LBS part could be the reason Doo decided on the 16" in the first place and have had to since.
Picture you and your girl friend out for a ride. You're 245 geared up with size 13 boots and she is 120 geared up with size 6. Who sinks further into the pow when you step off the sled. If you have a 174x16 2013 turbo Yam and she has a 141x15 1992 Phazer she will totally embarass you in powder on the flats in the trees.
I've also seen a 100 pound girl on 340 Bravo with a 116 3/4" track outclimb 141 2" high HP sleds in that days snow conditions. It was her first time on a sled and she just rode up to the top without ever pinning it, just enjoying the sun. Later at a break stop, everyone was telling her how incredible a rider she was. Her only question was " Why do you guys dig those big holes? Doesn't it ruin the trail?

Trenching has more to do with frontal area, suspention set-up, and machine-rider interface (skill) lol. Floatation is not a big deal here but, put the two together and you have the biggest selling mountainsled of the time.

`Cause that`s what we all want.

Thanks......I'm going to sell my current sled and purchase a bravo. I never really thought of it before but its weight of only 300 pounds should be able to propel a rider nicely despite its lack of track and being a meer 140 hp under powered.

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[Summiteer]

Is Brp not the only sled manufacture out of the 4 with a 16" wide track????? Why would this be?? I'm pretty sure that they do not have a patent on it..... is it possible that the other manufactures have not notice this little secret??.. so now why did BRP put on a twisty bendy skid with flexible track edges?? could it be that, maybe they are trying to get your "five year ahead of it's time" toboggan to handle like the others rather than an old plow horse??? I hope this helps!!!

didn't/don't the Yamaha mountain sleds have 16" wide tracks too?

 

[Summiteer]

With cat releasing a new chassis last year and Polaris the year before why are they dedicated to that 15 wide track? It would have been such a simple change to throw into the new design. Serious thread here do any of you think there is no advantage what so ever to having a 16 wide track? And that is why it's not happening?

Basic math says the 16 wide wins. What's your opinion? I know tons of guys Doing aftermarket 16 wide conversions.

There were a lot of guys porting their tracks for several years too.....Until someone actually did an apples to apples comparison.....
I find it hard to believe that a half inch on either side of centre makes that much of a difference in pulling a sled over. Be interesting to see what a pro with a 16 wide in it would do.

 

[MATTIAC]

the real answer to this question is because

 

[imdoo'n]

Thanks......I'm going to sell my current sled and purchase a bravo. I never really thought of it before but its weight of only 300 pounds should be able to propel a rider nicely despite its lack of track and being a meer 140 hp under powered.

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hahaha, but just think of the challenges and the looks ya'd get when you went past the big boys. would be the best feeling yet. even if a guy got close. i saw a guy on an old doo tnt, stock short track in quartz a few years ago, i was amazed that he made it up the hills, but he was there. will never forget that, i new what i had to go through to get there.

can't say i'd trade the xp in on a tnt though, hehe. although some water wings for the creeks would definitely help.

 

[retiredpop]

Thanks......I'm going to sell my current sled and purchase a bravo. I never really thought of it before but its weight of only 300 pounds should be able to propel a rider nicely despite its lack of track and being a meer 140 hp under powered.

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I'll round up an OMC SnowCruiser with the 20.5" track and we'll have a competition. LOL