we went to alen creek on saturday, but on sunday we packed it in early and went home. when the budies M8T with c115 (i think) wouldn't start we thought it might be a little cold. we stopped at the cabin on the way out and it took about 30mins of pulling before he could get it to run. after when we got back to the motel we found out guys carry spare 87 in a spray bottle to get them race turbos to start in cold weather lol.