what bs

[imdoo'n]

can someone explain to me how wearing a $500 beacon is going to save my life better, compared to a $10 beacon. and what is all this what is your life worth BS.

this is nothing more than a sales ploy to sell you something. explain why a $500(beacon) transmitter is better than a $10 (beacon)transmitter. they all transmit at 457hz period, unless it is real old. transmit antennas are the same.

i am talking transmitters which the victim has, the rescuer has the receiver for those that have no idea.


again how will wearing a $500 beacon work better than wearing a $10 beacon in saving a persons life, remember you are the victim not rescuer. is there intelligent life on this planet or are we all to close to the mother ship.

 

[skegpro]

can someone explain to me how wearing a $500 beacon is going to save my life better, compared to a $10 beacon. and what is all this what is your life worth BS.

this is nothing more than a sales ploy to sell you something. explain why a $500(beacon) transmitter is better than a $10 (beacon)transmitter. they all transmit at 457hz period, unless it is real old. transmit antennas are the same.

i am talking transmitters which the victim has, the rescuer has the receiver for those that have no idea.

Thinking your just trying to stir the pot ....but i'll bite haha.

The $500 beacon isn't any better of a transmitter than the $10 one.....

However, I would really hope my "friends" care enough about saving me to spend the extra 490 bones.

I find the new digital beacons to be much faster because they offer a graphical layout of the victems (S1).....rather than beeps and blinking lights.....

Don't be a cheap a$$, spend the money and save your friends...Please.

 

[underdog]

Yes they transmit on the same frequency. BUT the new ones with the new technology have a greater range by up to 10-20 metres. That right there makes it all worth it to me.

 

[imdoo'n]

Yes they transmit on the same frequency. BUT the new ones with the new technology have a greater range by up to 10-20 metres. That right there makes it all worth it to me.

now i ask you what has the greater range. the transmitter or the receiver, and greater range than what. please explain, and where do you get your info?

 

[imdoo'n]

Thinking your just trying to stir the pot ....but i'll bite haha.

The $500 beacon isn't any better of a transmitter than the $10 one.....

However, I would really hope my "friends" care enough about saving me to spend the extra 490 bones.

I find the new digital beacons to be much faster because they offer a graphical layout of the victems (S1).....rather than beeps and blinking lights.....

Don't be a cheap a$$, spend the money and save your friends...Please.

yes , the receiver makes a difference in signal processing. to you

 

[Trashy]

can someone explain to me how wearing a $500 beacon is going to save my life better, compared to a $10 beacon. and what is all this what is your life worth BS.

this is nothing more than a sales ploy to sell you something. explain why a $500(beacon) transmitter is better than a $10 (beacon)transmitter. they all transmit at 457hz period, unless it is real old. transmit antennas are the same.

i am talking transmitters which the victim has, the rescuer has the receiver for those that have no idea.


again how will wearing a $500 beacon work better than wearing a $10 beacon in saving a persons life, remember you are the victim not rescuer. is there intelligent life on this planet or are we all to close to the mother ship.

Either way to me.....

I hope that that is $10.00 or $500.00 that turns out to be a complete waste of money!!!

Meaning, I hope I never have to use it, or have someone use it to find me.

 

[underdog]

The receiver has greater range.

When taking the avy course this year, they had us all turn our beacons to receive and walk away from the beacon that was transmitting until we got out of range. I have a ortovox X1, and People that had the newer ones ( ortovox S1, marmut pulse, pieps ds, etc) Walked quite away further away from the one transmitting.
I can see your reasoning, saying that the $10 ones can trasmit just as well as the rest. But what if You arent the 1 buried. If I was riding with you, I would want you to have the best, and easiest to use Beacon out there. And that is why I am saving up my money to get a pulse.
Cause lets be real here. This is a expensive sport. New sleds are close to $15,000, ride for a day and pay $20-$35 for gas..... $500 for a beacon is pocket change for peace of mind and ease of use.

 

[imdoo'n]

i commend you on your beacon choice, they are good beacons and the way to go. practice is key. still the sos will receive farther than these, way more work as you have to do the thinking, but they still work.

my ? still stands though.

 

[Summiteer]

Where do you get a $10.00 transmitter/receiver? They're all around the $400-500 mark are they not? the more expensive ones seem to be easier to use, with the digital processing pointing you right at the victim as opposed to the analogue "follow the radiating lines to get to the victim" method. The money YOU spend doesn't necessarily help you...Its the money your buddies spend, you want them to be able to find you fast! The cheaper ones work just fine, you just need to practice more with them so when the adrenaline is pumping you can run them.

 

[SLEDBUNNYRACING]

New beacons search features are heads and shoulders above the older technology, they can find multiple burials and flag them so you can continue looking, better directional antennas, stronger receiving to find signals and better screens for doing a search - some can even tell you which victims are still showing a heart beat under the snow.

After taking the Avalanche course I saw first hand how much faster and accurate my Orthovox S1 was compared to older technology when searching.

If your under the snow some of the new beacons have a better signal pattern for the searchers above, but that was about all. Rally the technology is for rescuing your buddy's in the avalanche.

Spend the money and as stated earlier, hopefully you will never ever have to use it as a searcher or as being searched for, that being said, I want my buddies to have current technology if my son or I go down in an Avy and I have no idea how I would address a wife/mother if the difference of rescuing their family member was based on not spending a few hundred dollars on the best safety equipment available.

And yes, my Son and I do wear an Avy bags as well.

 

[imdoo'n]

summiteer, sorry i don't agree, all beacons i've seen need to follow flux lines, analog or digital, the $10 beacon is a figure of speech. and i agree that your buddy must have a good beacon and must practice with it. again the sales guy was asking what your life was worth, as in the better beacon will benefit me. a digital is the way to go for anyone looking for a new beacon. the magic as such is in the receiver not the transmitter., and that is what i was trying to get at.

 

[Polarblu]

I would pay 2 grand for a beacon that just told me directly where to go, how deep, and if its even worth diggin(heartbeat, movement,temp). It would be more efficient. As far as sending that would have to change also cause the current set-up cant send that info, its not direct, very outdated, and 60 percent of people wearing them still dont have a clue......... The newer sleds and riders are 60 percent idiots that should stay home IMO.

 

[imdoo'n]

yes, technology has concentrated on the receiver, it is good, but useless without practice.
thread intent is to get people to think, not take a salesman's bs as gospel..

 

[imdoo'n]

The receiver has greater range.

When taking the avy course this year, they had us all turn our beacons to receive and walk away from the beacon that was transmitting until we got out of range. I have a ortovox X1, and People that had the newer ones ( ortovox S1, marmut pulse, pieps ds, etc) Walked quite away further away from the one transmitting.
I can see your reasoning, saying that the $10 ones can trasmit just as well as the rest. But what if You arent the 1 buried. If I was riding with you, I would want you to have the best, and easiest to use Beacon out there. And that is why I am saving up my money to get a pulse.
Cause lets be real here. This is a expensive sport. New sleds are close to $15,000, ride for a day and pay $20-$35 for gas..... $500 for a beacon is pocket change for peace of mind and ease of use.

ok now i have the best and easiest beacon to use, i just turned it on and used it for a few minutes. you'd trust your life to that or would you prefer someone who has extensive practice with an older analog beacon that knows how to use it. your life now hangs in the balance? you still feel the same

 

[imdoo'n]

Where do you get a $10.00 transmitter/receiver? They're all around the $400-500 mark are they not? the more expensive ones seem to be easier to use, with the digital processing pointing you right at the victim as opposed to the analogue "follow the radiating lines to get to the victim" method. The money YOU spend doesn't necessarily help you...Its the money your buddies spend, you want them to be able to find you fast! The cheaper ones work just fine, you just need to practice more with them so when the adrenaline is pumping you can run them.

ah!!! but you are wrong. the analog and digital receivers still must follow the flux lines to the transmitter, and if you were to follow your tracks that would be evident. you will travel in an arc to the transmitter. so you are saying you do not need to practice with the new digitals, interesting.

 

[sumx54]

yes, technology has concentrated on the receiver, it is good, but useless without practice.
thread intent is to get people to think, not take a salesman's bs as gospel.
like the engine break in thread BS. lots of sheep spewing the same BS.

I've never had a salesman ever try to sell me his gospel on wether or not a $10 beacon would protect MY life better than a $500 model. I don't think I'm any different than anyone else here in thinking more about being the rescuer rather than the victim. I wear the expensive digital brand and I practice with it quite often in hopes that if ever needed I can save a riding partners life. Really not as concerned of my own life. I put a lot of trust in my riding partners and hope they aren't wearing a garage sale special like you lol.

 

[imdoo'n]

I've never had a salesman ever try to sell me his gospel on wether or not a $10 beacon would protect MY life better than a $500 model. I don't think I'm any different than anyone else here in thinking more about being the rescuer rather than the victim. I wear the expensive digital brand and I practice with it quite often in hopes that if ever needed I can save a riding partners life. Really not as concerned of my own life. I put a lot of trust in my riding partners and hope they aren't wearing a garage sale special like you lol.

ah again, you may be one of the few that ask a lot of questions, but again you are assuming about a garage sale special which could still save your life if called upon. where at 90+ meters i will have a direction and signal to find you, others are still wandering around twiddling there thumbs, maybe going the wrong way, now who do you want to be on the hill looking for you ? or would you prefer me to just throw my $10 beacon away?

 

[Summiteer]

ah!!! but you are wrong. the analog and digital receivers still must follow the flux lines to the transmitter, and if you were to follow your tracks that would be evident. you will travel in an arc to the transmitter. so you are saying you do not need to practice with the new digitals, interesting.

You need practice with all equipment. digitals tend to be easier to operate than analogs......sounds like you started this for the express purpose of arguing....g'day

 

[ferniesnow]

Bring out that $10 transmitter and we'll test it! Bring along a fishing rod, lawn chairs, some BrewHouse; I'll bring the auger and make a day of it

 

[skegpro]

now i ask you what has the greater range. the transmitter or the receiver, and greater range than what. please explain, and where do you get your info?

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