we are fubared

[eclipse1966]

wow. My brother inlaw paid nearly $9,000 bucks for 2 poles, line and install for his new house.

I paid 40 bucks per pole at my place, pressure treated and all. Bought directly from the mill. Hydro wanted 450 just for the pole.

 

[ABMax24]

no labour was paid and so was everything else. I understand the economics are different but what I am trying to get at is that even in Peru they worked within the budget and got the job done and had extra money to buy pumps. Have you ever heard of a project going less than budgeted here in Canada? Pretty sad. On a side note, there are lots of other issues in Peru that I would never trade for like we have in Canada. We have is sooooo good here!

I see, problem is almost every time they go over budget the government gives in and gives them more money, in Peru they knew there was no more, so they made it work. If the government stopped giving out money like this all projects could be completed on budget, like if we do a job at work and it's overbudget the costs come out of our account, not the clients.

 

[S.W.A.T.]

Around here to get set up is about 2k per pole that's everything all in. The more a guy can do himself the cheaper it is. Save some cash and shop around a bit. I did my poles 5 at 40 each and hydro had to run the line plus two services all said and done including beer and my own travel to get the poles I was into it for less then 1k. I got my lines run for free because hydro had to go through my property to access another line. My deal was if you want to go through you need to hook it up. They said yes as long as I bought the poles. If I really pushed I could have got some bobcat work out of it.

 

[eclipse1966]

25 grand and they brought a small army of people to complete the project. I have to say once the money was available they did not waste any time getting the job done.

Around here to get set up is about 2k per pole that's everything all in. The more a guy can do himself the cheaper it is. Save some cash and shop around a bit. I did my poles 5 at 40 each and hydro had to run the line plus two services all said and done including beer and my own travel to get the poles I was into it for less then 1k. I got my lines run for free because hydro had to go through my property to access another line. My deal was if you want to go through you need to hook it up. They said yes as long as I bought the poles. If I really pushed I could have got some bobcat work out of it.

 

[takethebounce]

here is my mini rant...I do not even have enough time to post my full thoughts.

I for one am not worried, not for at least another 3 years, after the Liberals have managed to spend billions into various knee jerk reaction projects, believing spending money will improve the economic state of the country. Then realizing this doesn't work and needs to recoup by introducing new taxes and penalties on just about everything. I won't be surprised to see them not buy oil from the West and go over seas, I wont be surprised to see other mineral and natural resources purchase outside of Canada as well. I believe most people will be able to see some short term benefit from the change in government, but it doesn't mean its going to be the best choice in the long run.

I'll be honest, this election concerned me. The Liberals and Trudeau's stand on immigration laws and terrorism alone is concerning and not much focus has been given to that. Not even a year after the Ottawa shootings the Liberals have said there is no reason to believe terrorism is a concern in Canada. During the election when they announced the Liberal's had a majority government even before the votes were counted in the West (which absolutely is an issue that requires more attention as well) CBC was interviewing a group in Vancouver and it was stated that 1 in 3 of the population of the lower mainland was originally from India! Of course "new Canadian's" are going to vote Liberal. The Liberals targeted these groups for votes with ideas of less restrictions on immigrating. I tried to find the statistics for an actual number of non Canadian born voters but couldn't find that exact one I was looking for. Near the bottom of this article there is a chart though that shows the demographics of voters by riding. This is an issue that will only get worse over time as "New Canadians" will continue to vote for the ability to change our country and they will eventually out number Canadian born voters.

Ridings with most immigrants voted Liberal by a landslide – and other things we learned from federal election results - National | Globalnews.ca

I should explain though before I continue, I am not a born and bread Albertan. I grew up on the East coast, and I have no desire to ever live there again. I didn't come to Alberta to live off the backs of hard working Albertan's either. I was actually living in BC and was given an opportunity here so I chose to take it. I may never consider myself a true Albertan. I do consider myself Canadian though and that is becoming more challenging everyday as I am not sure what a Canadian is any more. My family blood lines have inhabited the East Coast much longer than likely any non native blood lines have lived in Alberta, so I guess that makes me more Canadian than most Albertan's when you view it in the same way "Albertan's" look at people who grew up on the East Coast. Should I feel a sense of entitlement to put down other Canadian's for their choice to live and work in another Province? After all I am more Canadian, right?

Back to the Liberal's.

Canada has lost its identity in my opinion. If I looked at the numbers correctly, Canada has 25ish million eligible voters, although I believe that should be less based on the population. Voter turnout was about %68 totaling 17ish million votes. 7 million of those votes were for the Liberals. Without a calculator, over %40 of votes went to the Liberals. Stats Canada says it does not have a breakdown on their website for specific voter status but its reported else where that %30 percent of the recent votes were from New Canadians (living in the Country since 2006) and as high as %50 of Liberal victories ridings were these New Canadians. So as much as I believe the East is responsible for having a Liberal majority it is more likely the lack of Canadian born citizens making it to the polls in high density areas to vote is the larger issue.

So what am I saying with all this rambling? We are our own worst enemies. I don't care to get into the financials of anyones lifestyles on here. We are considered adults by rule of the law and if you choose to finance the crap out of your life that's your choice and you do so knowing there is a chance you may not be able to pay the bills. You want a new truck and can't buy it outright, go get it. Enjoy it. Lose your job? Well that's life.

We also need to fight harder for our freedoms. Why must we change our customs and traditions because of new Canadians? I grew up with a level of respect towards everyone. If someone chose not to celebrate Christmas, that was there choice, I didn't tell them they needed to change and they didn't tell me I needed to change. Why has all of that more of an issue in the last 10-15 years? Why are the freedoms our parents, grandparents and great grand parents fought for no longer important? We have bent over backwards as a country to save people from hurt feelings. Honestly we need to adapt a stronger unified stance on all of it. If someone moves here and doesn't like something, go back to where you came from.

Crap. Guess I should get back to work.

 

[tex78]

here is my mini rant...I do not even have enough time to post my full thoughts.

I for one am not worried, not for at least another 3 years, after the Liberals have managed to spend billions into various knee jerk reaction projects, believing spending money will improve the economic state of the country. Then realizing this doesn't work and needs to recoup by introducing new taxes and penalties on just about everything. I won't be surprised to see them not buy oil from the West and go over seas, I wont be surprised to see other mineral and natural resources purchase outside of Canada as well. I believe most people will be able to see some short term benefit from the change in government, but it doesn't mean its going to be the best choice in the long run.

I'll be honest, this election concerned me. The Liberals and Trudeau's stand on immigration laws and terrorism alone is concerning and not much focus has been given to that. Not even a year after the Ottawa shootings the Liberals have said there is no reason to believe terrorism is a concern in Canada. During the election when they announced the Liberal's had a majority government even before the votes were counted in the West (which absolutely is an issue that requires more attention as well) CBC was interviewing a group in Vancouver and it was stated that 1 in 3 of the population of the lower mainland was originally from India! Of course "new Canadian's" are going to vote Liberal. The Liberals targeted these groups for votes with ideas of less restrictions on immigrating. I tried to find the statistics for an actual number of non Canadian born voters but couldn't find that exact one I was looking for. Near the bottom of this article there is a chart though that shows the demographics of voters by riding. This is an issue that will only get worse over time as "New Canadians" will continue to vote for the ability to change our country and they will eventually out number Canadian born voters.

Ridings with most immigrants voted Liberal by a landslide – and other things we learned from federal election results - National | Globalnews.ca

I should explain though before I continue, I am not a born and bread Albertan. I grew up on the East coast, and I have no desire to ever live there again. I didn't come to Alberta to live off the backs of hard working Albertan's either. I was actually living in BC and was given an opportunity here so I chose to take it. I may never consider myself a true Albertan. I do consider myself Canadian though and that is becoming more challenging everyday as I am not sure what a Canadian is any more. My family blood lines have inhabited the East Coast much longer than likely any non native blood lines have lived in Alberta, so I guess that makes me more Canadian than most Albertan's when you view it in the same way "Albertan's" look at people who grew up on the East Coast. Should I feel a sense of entitlement to put down other Canadian's for their choice to live and work in another Province? After all I am more Canadian, right?

Back to the Liberal's.

Canada has lost its identity in my opinion. If I looked at the numbers correctly, Canada has 25ish million eligible voters, although I believe that should be less based on the population. Voter turnout was about %68 totaling 17ish million votes. 7 million of those votes were for the Liberals. Without a calculator, over %40 of votes went to the Liberals. Stats Canada says it does not have a breakdown on their website for specific voter status but its reported else where that %30 percent of the recent votes were from New Canadians (living in the Country since 2006) and as high as %50 of Liberal victories ridings were these New Canadians. So as much as I believe the East is responsible for having a Liberal majority it is more likely the lack of Canadian born citizens making it to the polls in high density areas to vote is the larger issue.

So what am I saying with all this rambling? We are our own worst enemies. I don't care to get into the financials of anyones lifestyles on here. We are considered adults by rule of the law and if you choose to finance the crap out of your life that's your choice and you do so knowing there is a chance you may not be able to pay the bills. You want a new truck and can't buy it outright, go get it. Enjoy it. Lose your job? Well that's life.

We also need to fight harder for our freedoms. Why must we change our customs and traditions because of new Canadians? I grew up with a level of respect towards everyone. If someone chose not to celebrate Christmas, that was there choice, I didn't tell them they needed to change and they didn't tell me I needed to change. Why has all of that more of an issue in the last 10-15 years? Why are the freedoms our parents, grandparents and great grand parents fought for no longer important? We have bent over backwards as a country to save people from hurt feelings. Honestly we need to adapt a stronger unified stance on all of it. If someone moves here and doesn't like something, go back to where you came from.

Crap. Guess I should get back to work.

100 % hit the nail on the head



Danny for prime minister

 

[deaner]

here is my mini rant...I do not even have enough time to post my full thoughts.

I for one am not worried, not for at least another 3 years, after the Liberals have managed to spend billions into various knee jerk reaction projects, believing spending money will improve the economic state of the country. Then realizing this doesn't work and needs to recoup by introducing new taxes and penalties on just about everything. I won't be surprised to see them not buy oil from the West and go over seas, I wont be surprised to see other mineral and natural resources purchase outside of Canada as well. I believe most people will be able to see some short term benefit from the change in government, but it doesn't mean its going to be the best choice in the long run.

I'll be honest, this election concerned me. The Liberals and Trudeau's stand on immigration laws and terrorism alone is concerning and not much focus has been given to that. Not even a year after the Ottawa shootings the Liberals have said there is no reason to believe terrorism is a concern in Canada. During the election when they announced the Liberal's had a majority government even before the votes were counted in the West (which absolutely is an issue that requires more attention as well) CBC was interviewing a group in Vancouver and it was stated that 1 in 3 of the population of the lower mainland was originally from India! Of course "new Canadian's" are going to vote Liberal. The Liberals targeted these groups for votes with ideas of less restrictions on immigrating. I tried to find the statistics for an actual number of non Canadian born voters but couldn't find that exact one I was looking for. Near the bottom of this article there is a chart though that shows the demographics of voters by riding. This is an issue that will only get worse over time as "New Canadians" will continue to vote for the ability to change our country and they will eventually out number Canadian born voters.

Ridings with most immigrants voted Liberal by a landslide – and other things we learned from federal election results - National | Globalnews.ca

I should explain though before I continue, I am not a born and bread Albertan. I grew up on the East coast, and I have no desire to ever live there again. I didn't come to Alberta to live off the backs of hard working Albertan's either. I was actually living in BC and was given an opportunity here so I chose to take it. I may never consider myself a true Albertan. I do consider myself Canadian though and that is becoming more challenging everyday as I am not sure what a Canadian is any more. My family blood lines have inhabited the East Coast much longer than likely any non native blood lines have lived in Alberta, so I guess that makes me more Canadian than most Albertan's when you view it in the same way "Albertan's" look at people who grew up on the East Coast. Should I feel a sense of entitlement to put down other Canadian's for their choice to live and work in another Province? After all I am more Canadian, right?

Back to the Liberal's.

Canada has lost its identity in my opinion. If I looked at the numbers correctly, Canada has 25ish million eligible voters, although I believe that should be less based on the population. Voter turnout was about %68 totaling 17ish million votes. 7 million of those votes were for the Liberals. Without a calculator, over %40 of votes went to the Liberals. Stats Canada says it does not have a breakdown on their website for specific voter status but its reported else where that %30 percent of the recent votes were from New Canadians (living in the Country since 2006) and as high as %50 of Liberal victories ridings were these New Canadians. So as much as I believe the East is responsible for having a Liberal majority it is more likely the lack of Canadian born citizens making it to the polls in high density areas to vote is the larger issue.

So what am I saying with all this rambling? We are our own worst enemies. I don't care to get into the financials of anyones lifestyles on here. We are considered adults by rule of the law and if you choose to finance the crap out of your life that's your choice and you do so knowing there is a chance you may not be able to pay the bills. You want a new truck and can't buy it outright, go get it. Enjoy it. Lose your job? Well that's life.

We also need to fight harder for our freedoms. Why must we change our customs and traditions because of new Canadians? I grew up with a level of respect towards everyone. If someone chose not to celebrate Christmas, that was there choice, I didn't tell them they needed to change and they didn't tell me I needed to change. Why has all of that more of an issue in the last 10-15 years? Why are the freedoms our parents, grandparents and great grand parents fought for no longer important? We have bent over backwards as a country to save people from hurt feelings. Honestly we need to adapt a stronger unified stance on all of it. If someone moves here and doesn't like something, go back to where you came from.

Crap. Guess I should get back to work.

You are 110% right. I would say we need more people like you in politics......but you would be labelled a racist by the liberal media and discredited before you even got started. Getting pretty easy to be apathetic towards politics.

 

[eclipse1966]

I agree with you on most your post but being the disgruntled voter I strongly believe regardless who is in power there will always be issues with our politicians. They are self serving, power hungry people holding the purse strings to our money. We can say PC have does this, Libs have done that, NDP suck etc etc. But I bet when we put their list of accomplishments or screw ups they will all balance out especially on the screw ups and scandals because regardless of the party they are all full of it. From sponsorship BS to Senate scandal to over spending on even the simplest issue they are all are guilty of it. In summary, the reason it is like this is because we Canadians are way to passive and don't yell and scream for what is right. Sometimes we watch TV and watch other countries going thru tough times (i.e. Greece) and the people get up an rally with anger and stand up for their rights. That is what we need to do to get things turned around otherwise slowly slowly the "new" Canadians will overtake us because ALL politicians listen to them for votes….. yup even Harper. It is only natural.

here is my mini rant...I do not even have enough time to post my full thoughts.

I for one am not worried, not for at least another 3 years, after the Liberals have managed to spend billions into various knee jerk reaction projects, believing spending money will improve the economic state of the country. Then realizing this doesn't work and needs to recoup by introducing new taxes and penalties on just about everything. I won't be surprised to see them not buy oil from the West and go over seas, I wont be surprised to see other mineral and natural resources purchase outside of Canada as well. I believe most people will be able to see some short term benefit from the change in government, but it doesn't mean its going to be the best choice in the long run.

I'll be honest, this election concerned me. The Liberals and Trudeau's stand on immigration laws and terrorism alone is concerning and not much focus has been given to that. Not even a year after the Ottawa shootings the Liberals have said there is no reason to believe terrorism is a concern in Canada. During the election when they announced the Liberal's had a majority government even before the votes were counted in the West (which absolutely is an issue that requires more attention as well) CBC was interviewing a group in Vancouver and it was stated that 1 in 3 of the population of the lower mainland was originally from India! Of course "new Canadian's" are going to vote Liberal. The Liberals targeted these groups for votes with ideas of less restrictions on immigrating. I tried to find the statistics for an actual number of non Canadian born voters but couldn't find that exact one I was looking for. Near the bottom of this article there is a chart though that shows the demographics of voters by riding. This is an issue that will only get worse over time as "New Canadians" will continue to vote for the ability to change our country and they will eventually out number Canadian born voters.

Ridings with most immigrants voted Liberal by a landslide – and other things we learned from federal election results - National | Globalnews.ca

I should explain though before I continue, I am not a born and bread Albertan. I grew up on the East coast, and I have no desire to ever live there again. I didn't come to Alberta to live off the backs of hard working Albertan's either. I was actually living in BC and was given an opportunity here so I chose to take it. I may never consider myself a true Albertan. I do consider myself Canadian though and that is becoming more challenging everyday as I am not sure what a Canadian is any more. My family blood lines have inhabited the East Coast much longer than likely any non native blood lines have lived in Alberta, so I guess that makes me more Canadian than most Albertan's when you view it in the same way "Albertan's" look at people who grew up on the East Coast. Should I feel a sense of entitlement to put down other Canadian's for their choice to live and work in another Province? After all I am more Canadian, right?

Back to the Liberal's.

Canada has lost its identity in my opinion. If I looked at the numbers correctly, Canada has 25ish million eligible voters, although I believe that should be less based on the population. Voter turnout was about %68 totaling 17ish million votes. 7 million of those votes were for the Liberals. Without a calculator, over %40 of votes went to the Liberals. Stats Canada says it does not have a breakdown on their website for specific voter status but its reported else where that %30 percent of the recent votes were from New Canadians (living in the Country since 2006) and as high as %50 of Liberal victories ridings were these New Canadians. So as much as I believe the East is responsible for having a Liberal majority it is more likely the lack of Canadian born citizens making it to the polls in high density areas to vote is the larger issue.

So what am I saying with all this rambling? We are our own worst enemies. I don't care to get into the financials of anyones lifestyles on here. We are considered adults by rule of the law and if you choose to finance the crap out of your life that's your choice and you do so knowing there is a chance you may not be able to pay the bills. You want a new truck and can't buy it outright, go get it. Enjoy it. Lose your job? Well that's life.

We also need to fight harder for our freedoms. Why must we change our customs and traditions because of new Canadians? I grew up with a level of respect towards everyone. If someone chose not to celebrate Christmas, that was there choice, I didn't tell them they needed to change and they didn't tell me I needed to change. Why has all of that more of an issue in the last 10-15 years? Why are the freedoms our parents, grandparents and great grand parents fought for no longer important? We have bent over backwards as a country to save people from hurt feelings. Honestly we need to adapt a stronger unified stance on all of it. If someone moves here and doesn't like something, go back to where you came from.

Crap. Guess I should get back to work.

 

[takethebounce]

You are 110% right. I would say we need more people like you in politics......but you would be labelled a racist by the liberal media and discredited before you even got started. Getting pretty easy to be apathetic towards politics.

But that is what we are being subject to as long time Canadians, are we not?

I am told I must not partake in traditions and beliefs I grew up with because new Canadians do not share the same beliefs. This happens in the workplace, this happens in schools, this happens in the retail malls and shopping centers. These new Canadians are the racists and discriminatory against Canadian born citizens culture, traditions and beliefs. They move to Canada and our system offends them. Canada didn't ask them to move here but we are forced to change for them. I know you are not disagreeing with me and I agree politics has become almost a joke in Canada and the political party's all have their own agendas but this issue is a Liberal issue as the Liberals continue to be tolerant towards these people who wish to modify our beliefs to their satisfaction. I should not say Merry Christmas because of some cultures intolerance towards a customary greeting but a Muslim woman can wear a religious Niqab because it is her right to do so. Is that not contradictory to what the Liberals stand for? They want to liberate people, but by dictating one persons rights you deny another person of their freedom.

 

[101110101101]

unless your on welfare... than your entitled to all that and a cell phone.

Funny you mention that.... I took this picture a year or two ago across from where I work .... I wasn't sure what to make of it lol

 

[101110101101]

Apparently the only one having a problem with reading was you. Unable to comprehend what giving an example is, not a personal situation. I read your life story just fine.
BTW your not pushing my buttons. Hippies like you need to do alot more than that. Just another lacklustre wacko on the Internet is all I'm reading from you.

hehehee @ Hippies like me. You say that like it's a bad thing. The world could use a few more hippies, our water would be clean, and we could still fish and eat what we catch without having to check mercury content limits. Hippy? Peace, love, sex, drugs, and rock & roll..... All from an era when a single income could raise a family and the mother could stay home and kids had respect for their parents? Sign me up, those all sound good to me.

You will have to do better than that to insult me, "son". (PS. This hippy knows the difference between "your" and "you're".... try reading a book)

 

[Pinner]

 

[turbo392]

Funny you mention that.... I took this picture a year or two ago across from where I work .... I wasn't sure what to make of it lol

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That's funny. Looks like a guy named James that lives at the shelter and runs a used car sales website and tries to scam people. We had a big battle with the guy on another Calgary forum. Usually find him doing business at Starbucks or wherever he can get free wifi and stay warm.

 

[101110101101]

That's funny. Looks like a guy named James that lives at the shelter and runs a used car sales website and tries to scam people. We had a big battle with the guy on another Calgary forum. Usually find him doing business at Starbucks or wherever he can get free wifi and stay warm.

Wow really? I was a little shocked someone would plug in to the grid and steal power, and no one cared....

 

[Joholio]

Wow really? I was a little shocked someone would plug in to the grid and steal power, and no one cared....

Get back to work lol

 

[lilduke]

This thread is FUBAR'd lol.

To me it makes sense that a guy tripping pipe at 3am in -35 weather would get paid more than a guy fixing computers at the future shop.
I worked on a drilling rig for a bit. I took a piece of drill collar to the head, just about lost my fawking eye!
You can keep that job, doesn't pay enough as far as im concerned.

Now hockey players, now there is a bunch of useless over payed fawkers. But hey if people want to pay 300$ a ticket to go watch a bunch
of 25 year olds play a kids game(that they are not even any good at) who am I to say what they are worth.

 

[101110101101]

Get back to work lol

I am adept at multi-tasking

 

[Joholio]

I dont know if Mikey Many Numbers noticed, but isnt it "fubarred"? Lol

 

[101110101101]

I dont know if Mikey Many Numbers noticed, but isnt it "fubarred"? Lol

FUBAR is an acronym... what would the second "R" stand for in your version?

 

[lilduke]

Fawked Up Beyond All Recognition FUBAR'd