Wanna stretch my MM700 to 151 or 159.....Ideas?
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if I was to buy a newer sled it'd have to be a 2014 viper. I will only ride yammy (reliability and durability) and everything above the mountain max is too damn heavy.....
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A viper is way heavier than a mountain max. And it's only a short track. Will cost you 30,000 to make it a decent mountain sled
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$30K to make a Viper into a mountain sled...LMAO...the things some people say.....
Joey, you've got a long way to go dude. If you are going to ride out west you are going to need to learn that unless you want to turbo a Nytro or a Viper, you will have to get on another brand of 2 stroke. Its a fact of life out here man, unless Yammy starts making 2 smokes again. You need to get over the "reliability/durability" thing (same thing IMO) and understand the power to weight ratio thing. Power to weight reins supreme out here. Nothing is reliable when you are bashing it through and off trees all day. This isn't trail riding out east, you screw up on a hill and that things rolls into a tree it won't matter how reliable it is, and that happens more than you think. You need to get past your mental block about Yammy and try both a newer sled and another brand, you'll be amazed at the difference if you rode a real mountain sled (even the Nytro MTX). The newer mountain sleds are all spec'd for mountain riding, even the ones a few years old are much better than your MM 700 which was effectively the SRX with a long track (as were many mountain sleds of the day). Get something designed for out west, not a converted trail sled.
As someone else mentioned, before you think about long tracks, get some training and get some avy gear. after that, I wouldn't even think about long tracking that sled, you will wind up spending way more than the actual sled is worth (not kidding). Save the money and buy something newer and better, you'll thank us all when you do.
Joey, you've got a long way to go dude. If you are going to ride out west you are going to need to learn that unless you want to turbo a Nytro or a Viper, you will have to get on another brand of 2 stroke. Its a fact of life out here man, unless Yammy starts making 2 smokes again. You need to get over the "reliability/durability" thing (same thing IMO) and understand the power to weight ratio thing. Power to weight reins supreme out here. Nothing is reliable when you are bashing it through and off trees all day. This isn't trail riding out east, you screw up on a hill and that things rolls into a tree it won't matter how reliable it is, and that happens more than you think. You need to get past your mental block about Yammy and try both a newer sled and another brand, you'll be amazed at the difference if you rode a real mountain sled (even the Nytro MTX). The newer mountain sleds are all spec'd for mountain riding, even the ones a few years old are much better than your MM 700 which was effectively the SRX with a long track (as were many mountain sleds of the day). Get something designed for out west, not a converted trail sled.
As someone else mentioned, before you think about long tracks, get some training and get some avy gear. after that, I wouldn't even think about long tracking that sled, you will wind up spending way more than the actual sled is worth (not kidding). Save the money and buy something newer and better, you'll thank us all when you do.
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i hope your kidding. sled= 14,000$ turbo= 10,000$ long track modification = 5000$.....and thats without even lightening it up a bit. it would be more like 40,000 to make it a reasonable ride.
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As a fellow new Albertan (going on 8 years) I will have to agree 100x on the forget about what you know about Ontario snowmobiling! My first machine here was a 99 RMK 700 and I was thinking hey dad has an 02 XC sp and it's a bulletproof rocket, sweet I match dad... WRONG. Thing got stuck in a field while my buddy's were riding skis to the sky doing circles around me. So I took my buddy's m8 for a quick rip..... I wouldn't even call them both snowmobiles they're so damn different! And the other guys 13 summit sp was even better BUT I refuse to spend brand new prices as I'm fairly new to mountain riding and have AVY gear and training to pay for; and a floater suit isn't exactly good mountain gear hahaha maybe my Ice picks will help me climb out of a tree well!
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modman, I respect your opinion. But my dad's MM700 has a 151 x 2 and its unstoppable in the powder and on the steep and deep. I never intend to climb chutes just so you know, i'm more for big open hills and staying in the bowls. yes, a newer sled would be nice, but it would have to be a viper. no offence again, but I will never trust another brand, what you say does make sense, but I still say my mountain max is enough sled for me (once its a 151) I don't need 350 horsepower 174 or something ridiculous like that nor can I afford it, I don't climb the crazy stuff like you see on thunderstruck, I just have fun on the logging roads, some smaller (but still challenging) climbs and boondocking. so sorry, but i'm keeping it until I can afford a viper, which is probably this last season then i'll retire the mountain max and keep it as a guest sled. i'm brand loyal because it works, and I have a blast on my little triple. thats what sledding is about in my opinion, having a blast, not who has the bigger badder sled.
as for the avy training/gear: Ive said it a dozen times now its first on my list.
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Man listen to these guys. A 151 x 2"... lol welcome to 2003. Such a piss poor waste of money, can you even get parts for that anymore? My '04 will ride circles around you, no matter how much of your hard earned money you irresponsibly blow on a 12 year old sled.
I actually went from a mountain max to a rev.. it's a whole new ball game. Can't even compare the two. Now I'm working towards an xm sometime hopefully within the next year or two, because after actually RIDING an xm, they make my sled I do happen to love as well look like ****.
Unless you wanna spend like machwell said somewhere upwards of 30 grand, forget Yamaha. Its old news. Vipers a cat Chassis anyway.
I'm stuck in the same situation as you with the money thing, but don't even waste your time or money modding an old sled. Chassis to out dated.
No matter how much money you sink into that old thing it won't touch anything out there now a days. Welcome to 2013.
And bashing maxwell.. that fawker can ride better then you can ever imagine.
So much I want to say, not worth wasting my time.
Who the h**l let this kid back on this site?
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I don't ride to keep up with other people. I ride because I love the sport. I ride a 12 year old sled...big deal, I have a blast on it and thats what matters.
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This is good advice. I used to think Arctic Cat was the be-all end-all (didn't help that I had a great dealer lol). Then I tried riding every mountain sled under the sun. Guess what? My next sled won't be an arctic cat... You're only shooting yourself in the foot with the brand loyalty. That goes for everything in life, trucks, guns, sled gear, girls yadda yadda, try 'em all. You can't trust another brand until you give another brand an honest chance. What would happen if you bought a dud of a yamaha that left you walking more often than not? Yeah you're having fun on your mountain max, thats great! Thing is, sleds have changed a ridiculous amount over the last decade and whether you like it or not, Yamaha has been lacking in the mountain department as of late. Save your money, ride the mountain max as is for now until you can afford a newer, purpose built mountain sled. JMHO
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thats exactly what I intend to do. but it'll be a viper
in general though: (not directed at you) what is wrong with riding an older sled? yes, sleds and riding has changed greatly in 12 years, but know what hasn't? how much fun you can have on a mountain max, and thats what this sport is about, having fun, being free! so why rip into someone who just loves to ride? honestly? what is the problem?
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Waste your money, extend to desired track length, have fun and stop wasting everyone's time asking for advice you won't take.thats exactly what I intend to do. but it'll be a viper
in general though: (not directed at you) what is wrong with riding an older sled? yes, sleds and riding has changed greatly in 12 years, but know what hasn't? how much fun you can have on a mountain max, and thats what this sport is about, having fun, being free! so why rip into someone who just loves to ride? honestly? what is the problem?
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I didn't ask for advice on buying a new sled. I asked for advice on how to extend my track, thanks for your time.
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how many times have people on here tried to convince me to switch brands? and how many times have they failed? you think people would figure it out by now.
I think Yamaha is junk and I,ve never worked on a old Viper but a sleds a sled. So Get the longer track,&tunnel extension. get longer rails from ice age,, you could go with rail extensions too, cheaper then rails but longer rails is better. Longer sliders and that's about all ur going to need.
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