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If all the motorized users could come up with a plan to fund trails for summer users and trails for winter use what ideas do you as users have??

Just wondering what you all think will be a idea. Put your thinker caps on a respond please.
 

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maybe have some sort of tournament, like horseshoes, bowling, 8-ball, have a set price 50/person, winner gets a trophy and remainder of the pot goes to maintenance...or even a bottle drive,
 

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Tha AOHVA has fund raisers and speaks for the summer time offroaders, may they should get together with the ASA and work as a team.
 

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Work casinos........... The catholic school board makes a ton 'o money when volunteers work some of the casinos in the edmonton area........... Jus' sayin'
 

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If all the motorized users could come up with a plan to fund trails for summer users and trails for winter use what ideas do you as users have??

Just wondering what you all think will be a idea. Put your thinker caps on a respond please.

It's unfortunate that the money we pay to register our machines does not go to funding trails and riding areas. thats what is supposed to happen with vehicle registration, the monies collected are used for road construction, maintenance and repair.

I register 7 recreational vehicles every year.

I get the whole not wanting government involvement and such, but unfortunately the government is the only body with regulatory powers to issue penalties for non compliance. It's often talked about the hassle that volunteers get when collecting trail fees, this is because legally they have no form of enforcement.

A portion of fines levied for ATV infractions should be put towards education and trail maintenance, we all agree (well 95% of us anyway) that helmets should be manditory so introduce a helmet law and all fines collected should be pumped back into the sport.

Governments have all become way too quick to impose increased taxation, user fees etc... where all the moneis go into general revenue and us as a public have become way too accepting of this fact. Each tax and fee was introduced with a purpose unfortunately very rarely does it work as it should.

ATV's are so popular now that Alberta parks and recreation could have a separate department dedicated to motorized recreation and funded thru registration fees and fines which would concentrate on trail construction and maintenance, and enforcement of proper trail ettiquete.

Right now it is my understanding that our registration fees for ATV's ends up with the department of transportation who's infastructure is off limits to recreational users.

Nothing against fundraising and such but it burns my azz that legally I have to register and insure my machines in order to take them off my own property yet I see very little if no other benifit other than self preservation and protection.

:rant::rant::rant:
 

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part of the reason our sled club was born (Peace Valley Snow Riders) was to help the summer OHV users secure trails and have a voice in land use. they are getting a bad rap because of the damage caused to sensitive wetlands by 4x4'ing and ripping up trails turning them impassable for other users. they are actively supporting our club and trying to come up with ideas for fund raising as well, we will keep an eye on this thread for ideas, or post any we come up with. Thanks Glen.
 

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The government should have millions available, now that the indy is no longer...... Won't need those million dollar grants to halp fund the indy...... Put that towards trail developement.
 

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If all the motorized users could come up with a plan to fund trails for summer users and trails for winter use what ideas do you as users have??

Just wondering what you all think will be a idea. Put your thinker caps on a respond please.
Someone should lobby* government to have part* of our registration and insurance for our machines to go toward it..........I mean we all have to pay these things it's only fair to have a portion go to help with trail development and sustainability.if the business of insurance and registries were provincial instead of private we would have a bigger voice with this issue........just my $0.02
 

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I think a casino night would be a lot of fun for individual clubs. Also a raffle of some sort is cool and silent auctions. Generally peeps like to party so a hall party/casino, raffle slash auction could be a big night for the snow angels. Or split it up and have a summer bbq and a winter casino. :beer::d:beer:
 

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i think a casino night would be a lot of fun for individual clubs. Also a raffle of some sort is cool and silent auctions. Generally peeps like to party so a hall party/casino, raffle slash auction could be a big night for the snow angels. Or split it up and have a summer bbq and a winter casino. :beer::d:beer:

i think tonite is casino nite;)
 

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I don't know alot about this area, okay actually squat. But for example with Trailseeker's, I think it used for grazing animals in the summer, I don't think it can be used for motorized toys in the warm months.
Maybe I am wrong ? (If I am don't tell Magnet)
 

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- Casinos work great but require dedicated volunteers, which I believe we have.
- S&M Club annual registration fee where part goes to Trail fund.
- Would an annual S&M Swap Meet be of interest or even viable? Use part of fee to trail fund!
- Summer family BBQs as suggested
- S&M Jamboree - Snow or Mud - part of fee to trail fund or just a Silver collection at the event. I think I'm dating myself.

It appears it's always the same people doing the work but I believe we are better than that as a group!

"WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE!"
 

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- casinos work great but require dedicated volunteers, which i believe we have.
- s&m club annual registration fee where part goes to trail fund.
- would an annual s&m swap meet be of interest or even viable? Use part of fee to trail fund!
- summer family bbqs as suggested
- s&m jamboree - snow or mud - part of fee to trail fund or just a silver collection at the event. I think i'm dating myself.

It appears it's always the same people doing the work but i believe we are better than that as a group!

"we can make a difference!"

with snowandmud.com we already donate quite heavily to different aspects of sledding and quading and trail developement and avalanche society etc....all with money collected from members and the various events we hold....
 

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I still feel that a portion of the registration of sleds and quads and offroad motorbikes should go to the asa/or the clubs for trail developement/upgrades....
 

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with snowandmud.com we already donate quite heavily to different aspects of sledding and quading and trail developement and avalanche society etc....all with money collected from members and the various events we hold....

Thanks for enlightening me. I'm not of the know but now I am.
 

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It's unfortunate that the money we pay to register our machines does not go to funding trails and riding areas. thats what is supposed to happen with vehicle registration, the monies collected are used for road construction, maintenance and repair.

I register 7 recreational vehicles every year.

I get the whole not wanting government involvement and such, but unfortunately the government is the only body with regulatory powers to issue penalties for non compliance. It's often talked about the hassle that volunteers get when collecting trail fees, this is because legally they have no form of enforcement.

A portion of fines levied for ATV infractions should be put towards education and trail maintenance, we all agree (well 95% of us anyway) that helmets should be manditory so introduce a helmet law and all fines collected should be pumped back into the sport.

Governments have all become way too quick to impose increased taxation, user fees etc... where all the moneis go into general revenue and us as a public have become way too accepting of this fact. Each tax and fee was introduced with a purpose unfortunately very rarely does it work as it should.

ATV's are so popular now that Alberta parks and recreation could have a separate department dedicated to motorized recreation and funded thru registration fees and fines which would concentrate on trail construction and maintenance, and enforcement of proper trail ettiquete.

Right now it is my understanding that our registration fees for ATV's ends up with the department of transportation who's infastructure is off limits to recreational users.

Nothing against fundraising and such but it burns my azz that legally I have to register and insure my machines in order to take them off my own property yet I see very little if no other benifit other than self preservation and protection.

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Bogger you are on the right track for sure. You are smarter than some think. IN the PERFECT world that is how it should work. USA gets some gas tax money back to help fund maintence but not here. User pays but gets it in the end result. All enjoy the results from paying.

Now the BIG Picture.

What if the province added a $50.00 surcharge dedicated to TRAILS on all your OFFROAD licience plates?? That would add up to over 2,000,000.00 a year to trails. Sounds OK?? Or not??? Money to go to trails.
Now the kicker to our nards. All trail users will benifet from this money. ALL USERS xcountry skiers,hiking,dogsleds,horses,birdwatchers,rollerbladers,etc etc. Still OK??? Oh and summer and winter motorized. As far as we know yet. They still dont know how it will all work.:confused:
Seems this is the formula our government is looking at. Still OK???
What is some feedback from you the users that will be paying for their use and improvement of trails?

Just Asking!!!!
 
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Bogger you are on the right track for sure. You are smarter than some think. IN the PERFECT world that is how it should work. USA gets some gas tax money back to help fund maintence but not here. User pays but gets it in the end result. All enjoy the results from paying.

Now the BIG Picture.

What if the province added a $50.00 surcharge dedicated to TRAILS on all your OFFROAD licience plates?? $50 is steep but OKThat would add up to over 2,000,000.00 a year to trails. Sounds OK?? Or not??? Money to go to trails.
Now the kicker to our nards. All trail users will benifet from this money. ALL USERS xcountry skiers,hiking,dogsleds,horses,birdwatchers,rollerbladers,etc etc. Still OK??? this is fine so long as other users don't try to keep motorized off Oh and summer and winter motorized. As far as we know yet. They still dont know how it will all work.:confused:
Seems this is the formula our government is looking at. Still OK???
What is some feedback from you the users that will be paying for their use and improvement of trails?

Just Asking!!!!

I think the system you speak of is better than what we have now.... $50 extra per year per machine is a little steep that takes my anual registration fees from $350 to $700 but fine, the 50 we pay now should be going there, if not to recreation then where does it go now is my question?????

And what about fines? why can at least a portion of that go back into maintenance... I understand wages for officers, but what about the rest???? most common ATV fine is $115 Reg & 115 Insurance so $230 a pop and they are handing them out left and right... this way even the guys who choose not to register STILL end up helping out with trail mantenance....
 
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