Thoughts and prayers for the people of Paris

[popcorn popper]

So now In light of the Paris attacks you would think the world hold back on refugee imports at least till you can implement some strict guidelines. Even France president Hollande is saying that the refugees will still be brought in. It is obvious there is no link between the public and their elected officials.

 

[camoJoe]

Hitler was the cause of WW II,.... the way I see it , I am going to live Long enough to see WW III, Now in the making, left wing or right wing, once again Many are dying and many more will die, All due to a handful of Radicals.!, Religion is the opium of the masses, Catholic, Protestant, Jew, Buddhist, Muslim....ETC, all apparently worth dying for , BUT, to go Terrorizing the country side , Killing innocent children, and Raping Women.... in the name of Allah, your simply screwed in the head and are just following those who brainwashed you..... your not Men,..... your Mice !!! on a side note,...... not sure there will be any virgins left in your Heaven when it gets to be your turn.

 

[eclipse1966]

if the world would have just ignored the region we probably wouldn't have the mess we have now. Sure Suddam was a mad man but there are plenty of them on this planet which no one pays attn to. Look at the 200 children abducted by Boko Haram. Why didnt western powers send troops there? The list is long.

The elder H Bush chased Saddam out of Kuwait. He didn't invade Iraq. It would be hypocritical to fault him for not invading Iraq, when faulting W Bush for invading Iraq. But maybe the elder didn't have all of the turncoat democrats claiming there were weapons of mass destruction, either.

 

[rzrgade]

Saddam has killed millions and millions of people , including mass genocide. As well as invaded other countries . He did use weapons of mass destruction on the Kurds !Boko harem well tragic ,is not even in the same league ......

 

[Bogger]

Before he went power mad Sudam had the support of Bush & much of the UN. He was provided with weapons and support to invade Iran only issue was he didn't stop at Iran he kept going into Kuwait and was intent on taking over the middle east, supplied and funded by the west. They created a monster of which many of todays problems stem from.

The elder H Bush chased Saddam out of Kuwait. He didn't invade Iraq. It would be hypocritical to fault him for not invading Iraq, when faulting W Bush for invading Iraq. But maybe the elder didn't have all of the turncoat democrats claiming there were weapons of mass destruction, either.

 

[eclipse1966]

not sure where you get you info from. Pls have a read below. BTW, these figures are pretty close to the number of innocent lives killed while the West was looking for imaginary Weapons of Mass destruction. Also, Saddam was a US ally and they supplied him with weapons etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saddam_Hussein's_Iraq

So, while we are at it, the N.Korean regime has been blamed for the deaths of millions over the decades. Why isn't the west intervening there?? NO OIL!

Saddam has killed millions and millions of people , including mass genocide. As well as invaded other countries . He did use weapons of mass destruction on the Kurds !Boko harem well tragic ,is not even in the same league ......

 

[ATV Rancher]

Before he went power mad Sudam had the support of Bush & much of the UN. He was provided with weapons and support to invade Iran only issue was he didn't stop at Iran he kept going into Kuwait and was intent on taking over the middle east, supplied and funded by the west. They created a monster of which many of todays problems stem from.

Taking it back another step, Jimmy Carter didn't support the Shah of Iran, who was overthrown, and the radicals took over and it snowballed from there. I had relatives in Iran working for Bell Helicopter that barely got out before the hostage situation. Jimmy Carter is probably the worst and weakest POS in American history, until Obama.

 

[ATV Rancher]

if the world would have just ignored the region we probably wouldn't have the mess we have now. Sure Suddam was a mad man but there are plenty of them on this planet which no one pays attn to. Look at the 200 children abducted by Boko Haram. Why didnt western powers send troops there? The list is long.

You don't think the hashtag brigade from Moochelle Obama was sufficient? I also wonder, while Saddam was on the hanging platform, with the noose around his neck, If he ever just wished he would have let the UN inspectors in, in accordance with his surrender from Kuwait decree?

 

[eclipse1966]

per my previous comments, why does the US involve itself (regardless of who the President is) in that part of the world while other regions of the world are left to defend against lunatics? Its all about controlling the oil. Now the world is being sucked into a vortex of crap because of this meddling by leaders who have no clue or have a back up plan.

You don't think the hashtag brigade from Moochelle Obama was sufficient? I also wonder, while Saddam was on the hanging platform, with the noose around his neck, If he ever just wished he would have let the UN inspectors in, in accordance with his surrender from Kuwait decree?

 

[ATV Rancher]

In decades past, maybe it needed to be about the oil. I think other things are at play. Do you remember the embargo in the 70s? I don't know if you're getting to be an old fart like me or not. LOL. Now obama seems to want to put in place policies that ensure we use oil from the Middle East, rather than solely rely on Canada, Mexico, and the US. You tell me where his allegiances lie. He mostly just wants sunshine and wind from the US in his perfect world, cut coal off at the knees as well. At this point, I would prefer to see the Arabs shove their oil up their ass and wither on the vine.

 

[ATV Rancher]

And one more thing, just for the record.

CIA director Brennan admits ISIS was

 

[eclipse1966]

if 49 years old is an old fart then I guess I am getting there myself LOL.

I fully agree with you on the Arab thing but I am fully convinced that who ever is in power bows to the Arabs instead of telling them to shove it. There was no need for Bush to go into Iraq the second time and create all the media hype about WMD etc etc. That was just an excuse to go there and get rid of some old bombs/missiles from Vietnam war and get control of the oil fields by putting a puppet regime in. US corporations raked in billions while the government spent billions. Best thing for the American people is to get out of that region and develop the N.American resources and let the Arabs sink in quick sand. This middle east peace is beyond who lives in the white house. Corporations control US foreign interests.

In decades past, maybe it needed to be about the oil. I think other things are at play. Do you remember the embargo in the 70s? I don't know if you're getting to be an old fart like me or not. LOL. Now obama seems to want to put in place policies that ensure we use oil from the Middle East, rather than solely rely on Canada, Mexico, and the US. You tell me where his allegiances lie. He mostly just wants sunshine and wind from the US in his perfect world, cut coal off at the knees as well. At this point, I would prefer to see the Arabs shove their oil up their ass and wither on the vine.

 

[ABMax24]

In decades past, maybe it needed to be about the oil. I think other things are at play. Do you remember the embargo in the 70s? I don't know if you're getting to be an old fart like me or not. LOL. Now obama seems to want to put in place policies that ensure we use oil from the Middle East, rather than solely rely on Canada, Mexico, and the US. You tell me where his allegiances lie. He mostly just wants sunshine and wind from the US in his perfect world, cut coal off at the knees as well. At this point, I would prefer to see the Arabs shove their oil up their ass and wither on the vine.

Just to expand on this a little, assume the US quits relying on middle eastern oil and uses oil solely from Canada, Mexico, and its own resources. What happens when North America runs out? The middle east will surely still have oil left, and the US war machine is powered by oil. What happens if the Americans go to war? By simply cutting off the taps the middle east could cripple the US.

I believe the strategy for getting oil from the middle east is a long term defense issue, so they will have domestic oil to power their military in the event of crisis. One thing we have all seen is the never ending paranoia the US has, and the intense ability to put their own interests ahead of the lives of other people that may be in the way.

 

[ATV Rancher]

Just to expand on this a little, assume the US quits relying on middle eastern oil and uses oil solely from Canada, Mexico, and its own resources. What happens when North America runs out? The middle east will surely still have oil left, and the US war machine is powered by oil. What happens if the Americans go to war? By simply cutting off the taps the middle east could cripple the US.

I believe the strategy for getting oil from the middle east is a long term defense issue, so they will have domestic oil to power their military in the event of crisis. One thing we have all seen is the never ending paranoia the US has, and the intense ability to put their own interests ahead of the lives of other people that may be in the way.

I really don't think North America is going to run out of oil for an extremely long time, unless enough liberal idiots manage to take enough land and offshore drilling out of production. It would be a self inflicted shortage, and the free market would probably do great finding alternatives, instead of government mandates. Gawd forbid any Canadian oil fields ever come under attack, it's hard telling what kind of damage the US war machine would do to the lives of people coming to help you out.

 

[ABMax24]

I really don't think North America is going to run out of oil for an extremely long time, unless enough liberal idiots manage to take enough land and offshore drilling out of production. It would be a self inflicted shortage, and the free market would probably do great finding alternatives, instead of government mandates. Gawd forbid any Canadian oil fields ever come under attack, it's hard telling what kind of damage the US war machine would do to the lives of people coming to help you out.

Well we already have a bunch of liberal idiots, the U.S. Doesn't want to build a pipeline to buy our oil, and the U.S. Is nowhere near being able to supply itself with oil at the present time, they burn far more than they can produce. So they are stuck buying oil from the Middle East, maybe in a decade or 2 that will change but right now that is a fact. Ever wonder why opec won't cut production? Maybe it's because with cheap oil the us can't be energy independent, it's not economical at current prices to produce the shale oil from the Balkan fields.

For the amount of money spent fighting in the Middle East over the years America could be energy independent by now.

 

[Pedaling pete]

The U.S. has taken Russia’s crown as the biggest oil and natural-gas producer in a demonstration of the seismic shifts in the world energy landscape emanating from America’s shale fields.
U.S. oil production rose to a record last year, gaining 1.6 million barrels a day, according to BP Plc’s Statistical Review of World Energy released on Wednesday. Gas output also climbed, putting America ahead of Russia as a producer of the hydrocarbons combined.
The data showing the U.S.’s emergence as the top driller confirms a trend that’s helped the world’s largest economy reduce imports, caused a slump in global energy prices and shifted the country’s foreign policy priorities.

“We are truly witnessing a changing of the guard of global energy suppliers,” BP Chief Economist Spencer Dale said in a presentation. “The implications of the shale revolution for the U.S. are profound.”
The other major shift BP’s report shows is China’s energy demand growing at the slowest pace since the Asian financial crisis of the late 1990s as the economy slows and the country tries to reduce its reliance on heavy industry.
“Growth in some of China’s most energy-intensive sectors, such as steel, iron and cement -- which had thrived during China’s rapid industrialization -- virtually collapsed in 2014,” said Dale, a former Bank of England chief economist who joined BP last year.
Economic Change

In the U.S., the boom in oil and gas production has started to change the economy profoundly. Cheap fuel has seen manufacturing return to the U.S. as the country produced about 90 percent of the energy it consumed last year.

Last year, imports equaled 1 percent of GDP, according to BP’s data. In 2007, just before the financial crisis, U.S. energy imports accounted for about half of the current account deficit of 5 percent of GDP.
Shale drillers from Exxon Mobil Corp. to Chesapeake Energy Corp. spent about $120 billion last year in the U.S., more than double the amount five years earlier. The surge in output and a slowdown in global demand have pushed crude oil prices down about 40 percent in the past year.
Lower Prices

The lower prices will force some producers to shut in “frothy activity” at some shale fields in the U.S. but most output can work even at current prices, BP Chief Executive Officer Bob Dudley said in London on Wednesday. The number of rigs drilling in shale fields are down by half from an October peak and may stabilize by the end of the summer, he said.
“The shale revolution hasn’t run out of steam in the U.S.,” Dudley said.
The U.S. increase in oil output last year, helping it to overtake Saudi Arabia as a crude producer, was the first time a country has raised production by at least 1 million barrels a day for three consecutive years, BP said.
Among other producers outside the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, Canada and Brazil also reported record production last year, prompting OPEC’s policy shift of ditching price support for defending market share.
On the demand side, countries outside the Organization of Economic Cooperation and Development accounted for all of the net growth in global consumption of 0.8 million barrels a day, or 0.8 percent, last year, BP said. Chinese consumption growth, though slower, still jumped 390,000 barrels a day, the biggest increase in the world.
Oil consumption in developed nations dropped 1.2 percent, the eighth decrease in the past nine years. World natural-gas consumption grew 0.4 percent last year, compared with the 10-year average of 2.4 percent.
The world’s coal use also increased 0.4 percent, slower than the 10-year average annual growth of 2.9 percent, with consumption in China almost slowing as the nation seeks to cut pollution and use more gas for power generation. Coal’s share of primary-energy consumption fell to 30 percent.

 

[popcorn popper]

I read a article a number of years back that Canada did not at that time produce a 1/4 of what US consumes. So the Mid East oil was very important. It's a tough situation but I think a lot of it is more $ related than actual production related.

 

[ATV Rancher]

Well we already have a bunch of liberal idiots, the U.S. Doesn't want to build a pipeline to buy our oil, and the U.S. Is nowhere near being able to supply itself with oil at the present time, they burn far more than they can produce. So they are stuck buying oil from the Middle East, maybe in a decade or 2 that will change but right now that is a fact. Ever wonder why opec won't cut production? Maybe it's because with cheap oil the us can't be energy independent, it's not economical at current prices to produce the shale oil from the Balkan fields.

For the amount of money spent fighting in the Middle East over the years America could be energy independent by now.

Any president but obama would have signed on to Keystone. His days are numbered, and expect great things to happen unless another communist democrat socialist greenie is elected. Canada just signed a new deal with Mexico, as you probably already know, for natural gas and expanding hydrocarbon liquids and gas. Assume that means refinery capacity.

No Keystone, No Problem: TransCanada Turns to Mexico Expansion - Bloomberg Business