Talk about a FLOP

[climbmax]

best disclaimer ever.......lol

 

[X-Treme]

You would think Polaris,Yamaha and cat would have had some secret investigators figuring out what skidoo was up too so they at least had a chance of releasing something even closely comparable. Those release events must have had a "well this is awkward" feeling going around the room.



It's ok guys 2018 is your big year!!! Your gona get a mountain sled I hear

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[lewey]

Would be interesting to go back and see what guys were saying about the 16 doo release.

 

[tex78]

I've never had a issue with my xm boards, they are strong and keep clean as any

But the new boards doo look cool


Biggest thing is the powder coated boards and tunnel, snow doesn't stick where a normal aluminum tunnel it does

 

[Cat401]

Support Quebec but they wont support us. The new 850 with 165 hp (but the old 800 was supposed to have 163....oops, sorry we lied...its really only 155. Any one remember when Mazda came out with the Miada advertized the hp and it was actually less, guy at work had one and they offered a buy back or settlement.

sure...but go try and find any horsepower numbers.....conveniently, I think they have all been edited and/or removed

 

[Merc63]

I agree that's pretty sneaky of BRP to release a third party dyno of 163.9hp now say the new engine has 165hp and its 10hp more. Not sure why they would do that in the first place.

 

[KatMan]

cant believe it. even a "bash every brand except doo" thread turns into a skidoo circle yank

 

[52weekbreak]

cant believe it. even a "bash every brand except doo" thread turns into a skidoo circle yank

Gee the way you say it I'd swear you are suggesting that is a bad thing.

 

[neilsleder]

We all know you ride and love skidoo, you probably have a skidoo tattoo on your ass. Every second post from you is some nonsense about how skidoo is so great and everything else sucks blah blah blah. Have to skip through 5 pages of BS just to read some new stats on anything. I even ride a T3 and can't bare to see another one of your skidoo is the greatest everything else is years behind crap post.

At least he don't shoot wolves!


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[Grizzly4323]

At least he don't shoot wolves!


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You guys are hilarious!!LOL... Another of many threads that went totally sideways!

 

[neilsleder]

You guys are hilarious!!LOL... Another of many threads that went totally sideways!

It started out side ways lol


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[neilsleder]

I am a bit discouraged with Cat holding back on their new c-tec. Some info released stated that they had to make a vendor/supplier change of one of the engine components late in the game (no reason why) and their mandate of having a least one year of testing an engine before releasing it could not be met by the new release dates....I respect that they are not releasing an engine that has not been thoroughly tested and let warranty take care of any issues.........so we keep the old proven Suzuki 800 with 163 hp (not ideal but not a dud in any ones eyes either) ....so yes, there is a good list of nice improvements which make it a better sled.....narrower, better attack angle, redesigned spindles, dropped shaft to fit the 8" driver (not sure why they didn't include an easily achievable 174 track option with the Mountain Cat).......but admittedly still...rather discouraged.

I think Doo overall did well. Yes, they have the new 850 with 165 hp (but the old 800 was supposed to have 163....oops, sorry we lied...its really only 155...I would have trouble swallowing that one) How was that even in the 160 hp class??? So yes, Doo has their new powerplant, a new clutch (which I think is awesome BTW), new (much needed) boards and a few nice tweaks along with good weight reduction....although most of it (almost 20 lbs) from a redesigned smaller fuel tank....I don't see that as new technology. A home run....maybe, but not out of the ball park.

I think Yammyha has a winner with their 3 cyl turbo. It looks like a lot of thought went into that design....Good future in that one.

Polaris....hey, they now have a contender to go up against the 174 doo. They have a proven nimble chassis. Will they increase there power?...prob a 2018 thing would be my guess.....

I don't think poo will up there hp. Not for a year or two more. The motor is still pretty new and IMO hasn't proven it's self. Just more refinements. Cat will have the next big release.


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[Grizzly4323]

It started out side ways lol


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Gotta agree with you there

 

[maxwell]

best disclaimer ever.......lol

Hey who invited you Randy

 

[maxwell]

Hey this is my thread did you really think from the first post there was going to be useful information!? you know where the door is

 

[maxwell]

I agree that's pretty sneaky of BRP to release a third party dyno of 163.9hp now say the new engine has 165hp and its 10hp more. Not sure why they would do that in the first place.

Because cat did? Do you think the cat makes 163hp like they say?? No way. It was a smart business move throw your engine on the same magical dyno that cat uses

 

[etecheaven]

it would be nice to see independent testing for hp ratings. I think some honestly is required. By my best guess all the 800 sleds are making 155 hp plus or minus a few. I do believe the 850 is making an honest 165 plus or minus a few depending on conditions.

Think of it this way, do could have got the same independent test done and claimed 173.9 hp. They didnt even though most people would have believed it and ignored the fine print.

That said when you think about how much hp guys are able to pull out of these little engines, its pretty amazing.

 

[52weekbreak]

Well this is interesting the small incremental increases. Nissan has developed a 400 HP 3 cylinder engine that weighs 40 KG and will fit in carry on luggage.

Nissan's new 400 bhp engine fits in carry-on luggage

Should even make the Yamaha an interesting ride (just kidding - they're rubbish - I await your hate mail). Seems legit though.

 

[Cat401]

Because cat did? Do you think the cat makes 163hp like they say?? No way. It was a smart business move throw your engine on the same magical dyno that cat uses

you saying Cat lied too?

got proof to your statement?

if you got proof, by all means show it.....but I think your just spouting off

 

[teeroy]

you saying Cat lied too?

got proof to your statement?

if you got proof, by all means show it.....but I think your just spouting off

cat got their hp number from dynotech just like 'doo did.