T motion lockout

[oler1234]

Xm needs it

G 4 does not, especially a 165-154

you like riding sleds that take more energy? Anything to make it easier means you are riding more, or in my case I circled around those that are stuck

 

[tex78]

you like riding sleds that take more energy? Anything to make it easier means you are riding more, or in my case I circled around those that are stuck

The g4 154-165 is more than easy enough

And twitchy bad, with the t motion not locked

A xm needs the t motion to help get it over

 

[turboetech]

The Munster lock out works very well but adds more stress to the rear triangle I installed one in my 18 850 doo with silber turbo but after replacing 2 rear triangles I removed it and just rode the sled.... I now always carry a spare triangle in my back pack

 

[Caper11]

heres one I did for a buddy! Usually the nub is pretty much locked out or restricted movement until the rear collapses about 30-40%. So most find that these sleds wash when your going through the roops and but really it’s the un-expected extra movement.

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Am I looking at that wrong, wasnt that nub also there to prevent over extension of the rear arm when the suspension unloaded???

 

[Bnorth]

Am I looking at that wrong, wasnt that nub also there to prevent over extension of the rear arm when the suspension unloaded???

that was my understanding. The shock is now the suspension limiting component with the nub cut.

My personal take on T-motion:
Helps beginner riders get the sled on edge
Hinders intermediate riders with the unpredictability
Offers no advantage for expert riders and they can ride through the unpredictability

 

[oler1234]

Am I looking at that wrong, wasnt that nub also there to prevent over extension of the rear arm when the suspension unloaded???

possibly and no. I have run it on my personal sled for 7000km without problems in regards to shocks or a over extension.

 

[mur190]

munster, like Caper also cracked my triangle after a few hundred kms, installed a zrp billet triangle and havent had an issue in 800KMS, our local dealer 54N started building billet triangles in factory configuration so you dont get the offset like the ZRP.

 

[NoBrakes!]

The Z offset moves the bolt but keeps same geometry? err what?

 

[Caper11]

No that offset changes the geometry.

54N triangle for the win on that, especially if guys like using the munster rail brace and the lockout bushing.

 

[NoBrakes!]

Is the geometry change to keep the skis down or hang 'em high?

 

[mur190]

geometry change to help keep skies down.... moves the rear bolt back 3/4"... 154 3" and ski's didnt stay down a bunch more for me. maybe just gets to 9 o clock and holds it there not 12 o clock.

Is the geometry change to keep the skis down or hang 'em high?

 

[CJD]

The T motion is a crutch for inexperienced riders. Not meant to offend anyone we all start somewhere and not all of us have the ability to get out as much as we would like. I rode mine for one year with it to give it a chance then deleted it. I find it much better deleted. When the skis are up it is a lot more predictable and washes out less. I put the skins kit in. No triangle. Nothing to crack. So far it has been good.

 

[skegpro]

No that offset changes the geometry.

54N triangle for the win on that, especially if guys like using the munster rail brace and the lockout bushing.

Anyone have some more info on this 54N triangle?

Pictures, Price......

 

[skegpro]

Is this it?

 

[Caper11]

Anyone have some more info on this 54N triangle?

Pictures, Price......

Im not sure what they are charging, Give them a shout.

 

[skegpro]

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Im not sure what they are charging, Give them a shout.

Hmmm looks good.
So would this put a whole bunch of stress on the heim joint arm.
Just break there now?

 

[mur190]

I don't really feel like it does, typically the BRP unit fails either at the top bolt or the welds along the bottom....

Hmmm looks good.
So would this put a whole bunch of stress on the heim joint arm.
Just break there now?

 

[GreyGhost]

Hmmm looks good.
So would this put a whole bunch of stress on the heim joint arm.
Just break there now?

Looks like a nice piece but I’d personally go with a “limiter” vs an actual lock up for the simple fact that it’s just a cast end and such a small point

 

[skegpro]

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Im not sure what they are charging, Give them a shout.

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[turboetech]

^^^^Looks like 350$$ total for this lockout.... Complete waste of time and money IMO for 30$$ I took my broken one and new spare to a local welder and he tig welded the existing welds for better support think the new doo triangle is 120$ got 1200kms on the old rewelded triangle now