So when can i stop paying my property taxes to the Regional District of East Kootney?

[LennyR]

Definition of home is the address on your driver's license. You can't have it both ways, government gives you voting access to the address on your license. Insurance is based on this address etc.
You are right BC people should not be travelling to Cosco, but really how many are coming? 10/day? There was over 30 cars at the lake yesterday 2 were from BC. This is a small mountain lake. 5km down the road there is another bike trail head it was also full. Dog park area along the creek guess what full. You really don't or can't understand what it is like to not be able to use your own back yard because it is full of people from somewhere else until you live in an area where it happens, every long weekend.
I don't think travelling is a big deal any more but others do, so who is right? This is not about Alberta vs BC it is personal beliefs vs personal beliefs.
There is no right or wrong answer but it does show how our governments play both sides.

yep the government should pick a lane, But this isn’t about Albertans and YOUR lake , this is about YOU, wanting to use the lake , and because of YOUR opinions on this issue , you choose not to go there. That’s all good, it’s YOUR decision , but not everyone in BC or Alberta is same mindset. So go somewhere else, limit your risk, not everyone feels the same as you.

 

[ABMax24]

Definition of home is the address on your driver's license. You can't have it both ways, government gives you voting access to the address on your license. Insurance is based on this address etc.
You are right BC people should not be travelling to Cosco, but really how many are coming? 10/day? There was over 30 cars at the lake yesterday 2 were from BC. This is a small mountain lake. 5km down the road there is another bike trail head it was also full. Dog park area along the creek guess what full. You really don't or can't understand what it is like to not be able to use your own back yard because it is full of people from somewhere else until you live in an area where it happens, every long weekend.
I don't think travelling is a big deal any more but others do, so who is right? This is not about Alberta vs BC it is personal beliefs vs personal beliefs.
There is no right or wrong answer but it does show how our governments play both sides.

On a weekend here it's not uncommon for 25% of the vehicles in the Costco parking lot to have BC plates. You also never pull up behind one at the Costco fuel pump either, lots have slip tanks hidden in the bed, or haul out a dozen gas cans to fill.

The point has been made on a lot of the local Facebook pages as well, of course the BC residents come back with "I can't afford to feed my kids without Costco" or "the local stores don't carry what I need, so I have to go to Grande Prairie".

Personally it doesn't bother me, if BC residents want to cross the border and buy goods here supporting our businesses and workers or buy our fuel and pay taxes to maintain our roads that's fine by me.

I get that it's frustrating to have so many people come in from outside the community, but how much of the local economy is driven by it? Would the community even exist without it?

 

[snopro]

Our good outstanding member ferniesnow always took advantage of Alberta gas and Costco when he lived in Elkford. Everytime he bought a sled from me he would have 6 or 8 jerry cans strapped to the deck of his truck. Can't blame him and I sure don't hold anything against a BC border person taking advantage of our great pricing. You'll never see peeps driving from Alberta to BC to get gas on purpose. Its usually because they need it to get somewhere.

 

[zal]

Being over run on long weekends is the norm here and locals always get chapped during tourist season.
The only difference now is the government saying don't travel.

Compare this to hiway 2 driving, sign says pull over except to pass that is the rule right? How pissed are you when someone is driving 100 in the passing lane?

Have you seen how terrible the slow lane is? Way too many pot holes and cracks. Haha. I’m that guy when I feel the lane is in terrible shape!

 

[deaner]

I think this has become less about the virus and more about "locals" leveraging the situation for their own advantage. And don't get me wrong.......I get it. I've been both. Used to live in Alberta, travel to BC for recreation, and really didn't like the attitude of a lot of the people who made it clear you are not welcome. On the other hand now being a local myself, I get it. I choose to pay a much higher cost of living with worse job options to live in this beautiful place. It sucks when the long weekend rolls around and you can't do the things you want because a bunch of "outsiders" are clogging up the system.

This winter really opened up my eyes because we had a ton of Americans coming up to sled our areas. The fuel up at home, pack lunches, and don't buy anything here. So why are we volunteering our time with the club to facilitate that? But then I thought of all the times I took my family down to "their" beach in Sandpoint on hot busy summer days.

To me it helps to look at both sides, and appreciate the opportunity to share what we have. And it reminds me to be humble and respectful when I am on someone else's turf

 

[pano-dude]

yep the government should pick a lane, But this isn’t about Albertans and YOUR lake , this is about YOU, wanting to use the lake , and because of YOUR opinions on this issue , you choose not to go there. That’s all good, it’s YOUR decision , but not everyone in BC or Alberta is same mindset. So go somewhere else, limit your risk, not everyone feels the same as you.

It actually wasn't my decision to not fish it was made by tourists that filled up the parking lot. I could not even get into the parking lot to unload my aluminium fishing boat.

I am not complaining about it, it happens every long weekend. Which is why I usually work long weekends and give my staff time off.

The conflict right now is people that are following the government requests and people who are not. One belief imposes on the other, is that ok?

 

[pano-dude]

On a weekend here it's not uncommon for 25% of the vehicles in the Costco parking lot to have BC plates. You also never pull up behind one at the Costco fuel pump either, lots have slip tanks hidden in the bed, or haul out a dozen gas cans to fill.

The point has been made on a lot of the local Facebook pages as well, of course the BC residents come back with "I can't afford to feed my kids without Costco" or "the local stores don't carry what I need, so I have to go to Grande Prairie".

Personally it doesn't bother me, if BC residents want to cross the border and buy goods here supporting our businesses and workers or buy our fuel and pay taxes to maintain our roads that's fine by me.

I get that it's frustrating to have so many people come in from outside the community, but how much of the local economy is driven by it? Would the community even exist without it?

These are different times, in general yes the tourism money helps businesses survive and yes locals get bent with having to wait for an extra few minutes on long weekends but it's the conflict of what the government is asking and what people are doing that is the driver behind the animosity right now.

If the people who are going to costco are complaining about tourists travelling then they are hipocrits and really should stfu.

 

[pano-dude]

I think this has become less about the virus and more about "locals" leveraging the situation for their own advantage. And don't get me wrong.......I get it. I've been both. Used to live in Alberta, travel to BC for recreation, and really didn't like the attitude of a lot of the people who made it clear you are not welcome. On the other hand now being a local myself, I get it. I choose to pay a much higher cost of living with worse job options to live in this beautiful place. It sucks when the long weekend rolls around and you can't do the things you want because a bunch of "outsiders" are clogging up the system.

This winter really opened up my eyes because we had a ton of Americans coming up to sled our areas. The fuel up at home, pack lunches, and don't buy anything here. So why are we volunteering our time with the club to facilitate that? But then I thought of all the times I took my family down to "their" beach in Sandpoint on hot busy summer days.

To me it helps to look at both sides, and appreciate the opportunity to share what we have. And it reminds me to be humble and respectful when I am on someone else's turf

You are absolutely right.

 

[Legend14]

These are different times, in general yes the tourism money helps businesses survive and yes locals get bent with having to wait for an extra few minutes on long weekends but it's the conflict of what the government is asking and what people are doing that is the driver behind the animosity right now.

If the people who are going to costco are complaining about tourists travelling then they are hipocrits and really should stfu.

My worksite in Alberta is FULL of people from BC and we really appreciate them over 3rd world people coming here.Hopelly government ends the ban so you can stfu!

 

[LennyR]

Every time this topic comes up , it amazes me that a province , any province that complains about other Canadians coming to their province to recreate , buy and use holiday properties, buy gas, pay camping fees, groceries, repair vehicles, buy and maintain RV’s , buy liquor, souvenirs, boat gas, RV gas , support restaurants and convenience stores, etc etc , it baffles me. It’s obviously an issue of me’ism, which is understandable, but hardly Defensible. Traffic is to heavy , boat launch busy , parking lot full, to many fishermen/skiers, lineups to long , beach to busy , campsites booked, whatever. Presently , conveniently it’s eAsy to point at Covid rules, but reality , this sAme mindset has been voiced many times, long before Covid craziness existed. And if you really do hate people, active robust recreation industry, line ups, traffic, and a constant influx of out of province visitors , maybe the most popular traditional BC hotspots may not be the best choice of residence for you !

 

[Stompin Tom]

Alberta Parks are NOT taking reservations from out of province travelers. Kettle calling the pot black?

 

[zal]

Alberta Parks are NOT taking reservations from out of province travelers. Kettle calling the pot black?

That’s discriminating!!


What happens if the pot is silver?

TBH, that’s the govt doing, not the Albertans complaining about out of towners. Are there any B.C. govt restrictions on reserving campsites from out of province?

 

[LUCKY 7]

I know the private sites are allowing Alberta campers

That’s discriminating!!


What happens if the pot is silver?

TBH, that’s the govt doing, not the Albertans complaining about out of towners. Are there any B.C. govt restrictions on reserving campsites from out of province?

 

[zal]

Pretty sure if you show up to the campsite without reservation, they will gladly take your money. It’s their way of controlling but can’t stop you.
Plus, it’s more of an adventure if you don’t have reservations!

 

[pano-dude]

My worksite in Alberta is FULL of people from BC and we really appreciate them over 3rd world people coming here.Hopelly government ends the ban so you can stfu!

I should stfu? Did you even read my post?

 

[pano-dude]

That’s discriminating!!


What happens if the pot is silver?

TBH, that’s the govt doing, not the Albertans complaining about out of towners. Are there any B.C. govt restrictions on reserving campsites from out of province?

Other than asking people not to travel? Again this is the problem, Government says no but no enforcement so what's the point of "asking"people to not travel. Of course they are going to travel. If you had a voluntary speed limit how many people would abide by it?
As always government policy causes Kaos.

 

[pano-dude]

Every time this topic comes up , it amazes me that a province , any province that complains about other Canadians coming to their province to recreate , buy and use holiday properties, buy gas, pay camping fees, groceries, repair vehicles, buy and maintain RV’s , buy liquor, souvenirs, boat gas, RV gas , support restaurants and convenience stores, etc etc , it baffles me. It’s obviously an issue of me’ism, which is understandable, but hardly Defensible. Traffic is to heavy , boat launch busy , parking lot full, to many fishermen/skiers, lineups to long , beach to busy , campsites booked, whatever. Presently , conveniently it’s eAsy to point at Covid rules, but reality , this sAme mindset has been voiced many times, long before Covid craziness existed. And if you really do hate people, active robust recreation industry, line ups, traffic, and a constant influx of out of province visitors , maybe the most popular traditional BC hotspots may not be the best choice of residence for you !

It's pretty easy for you to judge others when not living where they do. Are you happy when you have to sit in traffic on your way home? Human nature to complain about things that inconvenience us.

 

[Lund]

Every time this topic comes up , it amazes me that a province , any province that complains about other Canadians coming to their province to recreate , buy and use holiday properties, buy gas, pay camping fees, groceries, repair vehicles, buy and maintain RV’s , buy liquor, souvenirs, boat gas, RV gas , support restaurants and convenience stores, etc etc , it baffles me. It’s obviously an issue of me’ism, which is understandable, but hardly Defensible. Traffic is to heavy , boat launch busy , parking lot full, to many fishermen/skiers, lineups to long , beach to busy , campsites booked, whatever. Presently , conveniently it’s eAsy to point at Covid rules, but reality , this sAme mindset has been voiced many times, long before Covid craziness existed. And if you really do hate people, active robust recreation industry, line ups, traffic, and a constant influx of out of province visitors , maybe the most popular traditional BC hotspots may not be the best choice of residence for you !

Don't forget "me'ism" as your saying is a two way street. Entitlement and lack of respect plays its role in this. Its a problem on both sides of the coin. Some people feel they are entitled to say and do what they want, some times at the expense of another because they are local and its their home. While the other side believes they bring the money so are entitled in their own way.
There is a happy medium, but entitlement and me'ism as your saying has blinded people in respecting each other.

 

[Stompin Tom]

They don't understand that, they can't look beyond the end of their stuck up noses to realize that. It's totally one sided. When the Site C dam project began there was a hiring fair, there were 2 piles of resumes, one for BC residents and one for all other provinces, the pile of BC resumes were all called before the other pile was looked at, regardless of qualifications. This was something that was totally unethical and illegal. Yet thousands of BC residents work in Alberta, at one point something like 5000 residents of Kelowna alone worked in the oilsands.

Don't get me wrong the vast majority of BC is made up of good and reasonable people, but editorials like the one posted above sure make a person not want to spend money there.

Site C is a BC Government project paid for by tax money from the residents of BC, 100% BC funded. Part of the legislation to get it approved was first right for BC residents for work. If qualifications are equal the job will go to a BC company or resident. If you have any Alberta 100% funded and paid projects, I would fully expect first rights to jobs go to residents of Alberta. Sadly for you the patch is mainly national and international companies who really dont care where their workers come from.

As far as unethical and illegal, nope.

 

[ABMax24]

Site C is a BC Government project paid for by tax money from the residents of BC, 100% BC funded. Part of the legislation to get it approved was first right for BC residents for work. If qualifications are equal the job will go to a BC company or resident. If you have any Alberta 100% funded and paid projects, I would fully expect first rights to jobs go to residents of Alberta. Sadly for you the patch is mainly national and international companies who really dont care where their workers come from.

As far as unethical and illegal, nope.

It is Illegal. This is right from the worksafeBC website.

Generally, in a job application or interview, items related to possible areas of discrimination, such as your religious beliefs, place of origin or family status, should come up only if they relate directly to the job. For example, you should not normally be asked about your religion, unless you are applying to teach in a religious school.

https://www.workbc.ca/jobs-careers/find-jobs/your-rights-as-a-job-applicant.aspx