Skidoo xm with 3 inch track

[T-team]

Just dont test it to the point where i cant use it when I get there this weekend. lol

 

[MoThEr TrUcKeR]

Ill do some more testing this weekend but I'm leaning this way Aswell. Track is just to heavy. If you could add 10hp and get it spinning a little faster it would be a different story

I'm sure they thought the same things when the 2.5" was introduced too though. And the 174 length tracks.

 

[Caper11]

Too many things about the 3" I don't like. Handling, getting clutching right, weight, having a stock sled blow the doors off me in marginal snow conditions, attack angle, the cost of doing one, etc.
from what I seen the 3" on a pro works better than on a doo.


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[popcorn popper]

Too many things about the 3" I don't like. Handling, getting clutching right, weight, having a stock sled blow the doors off me in marginal snow conditions, attack angle, the cost of doing one, etc.
from what I seen the 3" on a pro works better than on a doo.

The 3" on my 1000 was day and night. The only thing I can see is the 800 shy on tq. I have heard there are some 174 3" ers with stock motors working very well. I think the speed you gain out of the gate is a win win with 3". I'm gonna try it and see what happens.
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[T-team]

2.5" is much more controllable in my opinion.. maybe I dont have neough seat time on it yet plus im not the greatest rider by ANY means... but the 2.5 seems likes it has a more controllable "ski in air" ascent than the 3" does... Pops up.... settles back down... pops up.. setlles back down... tractor tractor tractor.

 

[MoThEr TrUcKeR]

Too many things about the 3" I don't like. Handling, getting clutching right, weight, having a stock sled blow the doors off me in marginal snow conditions, attack angle, the cost of doing one, etc.
from what I seen the 3" on a pro works better than on a doo.


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Yea they do work good on a pro and they are a solid 10 hp less then our etec's so when set up right the doos work amazing with them. Iv rode head to head with my identical sled with a 3" and he smoked me by a solid 5+ lengths on the hill and was able to get through the big drifts and swells in the trees with much less trenching and getting stuck for how deep it was. Riding that sled made my 3" choice a no brainer.

 

[Caper11]

Yea they do work good on a pro and they are a solid 10 hp less then our etec's so when set up right the doos work amazing with them. Iv rode head to head with my identical sled with a 3" and he smoked me by a solid 5+ lengths on the hill and was able to get through the big drifts and swells in the trees with much less trenching and getting stuck for how deep it was. Riding that sled made my 3" choice a no brainer.

The pro is also 15 wide.
Well my experience was different with the 3" I had. 3" is heavier and using the 7t the attack angle increases, lots of ski lift and there for huge trench behind you. my sled worked awsome with the 3" but after all the work I put into it getting it clutched right because stock clutching definitely does not work! getting the suspension setup to keep the front end down. I had to take it off for warranty, and put it back to stock.
Is there extra traction? Yep there is a huge difference, when yah get the sled to maintain rpm and track speed.
Is the 7t driver a good idea, no. Geared way too low for marginal snow condition climbs. Is doos 2.5 a good track? Hell yes. Is the 3" worth the money?? If yah don't have to send it out for warranty, maybe to the right person, and if there was 3ft of pow to play in all the time.



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[MoThEr TrUcKeR]

Well iv taken sleds with 3" track for warranty plenty and nothing was affected except driver and track warranty, nothing else. As for the marginal snow performance, maybe in spring yes it wouldn't be optimal till you find some untracked snow but on my other sleds with 3" iv owned I have never had someone with less lug outshine my sled at all. But this is with the good old style camo not the new floppy paddled one. And as for the attack angle change it does increase slightly but very little. You need to remember that although its a 7 tooth it's a larger pitch so it's only raising the front of the track like a 1/4 inch. Now this may see horrible but it's not any worse for performance as the dogleg these sleds rails allow for up front from how arched up they are. Just food for thought.

 

[duck]

When is the 3.5" coming out?......LOL

 

[MoThEr TrUcKeR]

Next year along with new 184 inch length tracks lol

 

[duck]

Next year along with new 184 inch length tracks lol

You guys will need parachutes......not avy backpacks.....lol

 

[thegeneral]

General did you gear up or leave it geared down abit with the small driver? I hear some guys gearing as low as 2.60 with good results?

20/51 2.55. But I'm going to 21/51 2.42
Lesions ran that for our week trip to Revy and it pulled hard. 82-85 kph on steep pull in 2.5' of powder


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[MoThEr TrUcKeR]

Hey general did you notice a difference from the increased attack angle like previously mentioned? I remember there being no difference on my xp going to a 7 from 8T drivers

 

[thegeneral]

Hey general did you notice a difference from the increased attack angle like previously mentioned? I remember there being no difference on my xp going to a 7 from 8T drivers

I don't think the difference in attack angle in significant enough to notice. I've ridden with cats, Poos and yammies, both turbo'd and N/A and everyone pretty much says the same thing to me. " man that thing's a tractor "

Sure I'd like to be moving a little faster when I go over the top, but as long as it gets me into the next bowl, who cares lol


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[oler1234]

what drivers are you guys running with your 3".

Just put the new 3" in a XM and did not know that the outside drive tips are mini version, so i got the regular drivers. Anyone using the artic cat style driver with the new 3"?

as well i dont know what camoplast was thinking with the new 3". The paddles are way softer than the old design, i think its gonna be a nightmare for hard pack or spring riding. Jus this weekend you could feel paddles folding over. As well that offset in is bull... so much snow build up in the tunnel now. Will say though it is nice to have in the deep.

 

[tstams]

Can you still order the old style 3 inch tracks

 

[MoThEr TrUcKeR]

You can use the regular drivers just gotta cut every second little outer nub off. That's what I did when I put one of those new style tracks on my nytro and works perfect.

 

[MoThEr TrUcKeR]

Can you still order the old style 3 inch tracks

Sadly no they have been discontinued for over a year. If you keep an eye out the odd one pops up used but they still want a pretty penny for them now that their gone. I found one new luckily but it cost me a ton!

 

[oler1234]

You can use the regular drivers just gotta cut every second little outer nub off. That's what I did when I put one of those new style tracks on my nytro and works perfect.

Cut every nub off why? Are they not on a 3" spacing like the inner ones?

 

[MoThEr TrUcKeR]

Not every nub just every second one on the outside if its the new style track, this being because if you have original style avids that drive on both sides of the windows every second nub will run into the driver because the nub will be right beside the window in the track so you'll just need to cut all the nubs beside the windows out for the original avids if not using the cat style ones. Hope that explains it