shop supplies?

[High Velocity]

All the years I worked in the automotive industry, the standard shop supply charge was 10% of the labour bill. Back then (many years ago), most shops' top shop supply charge was around $20.


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[handyandy]

The machinist That cuts heads for me charges me 10% on top of the bill for shop supplies .

Sounds like a greedy machinist. I had my indy 500 bored out and it cost 10 dollars per cylinder with no other charges. My rmk he honed the cylinder s for free because I bought pistons from him.

 

[High Velocity]

Sounds like a greedy machinist.

I wouldn't say that. Sounds like you have no idea how much shop supplies cost and the quantity that are consumed in an average day.




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[handyandy]

I wouldn't say that. Sounds like you have no idea how much shop supplies cost and the quantity that are consumed in an average day.




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I better known what shop supplies cost I used to maintain a rental fleet and do lots of work on vehicles and equipment.
I guess the machine shop I went to is just more generous than most and maybe it explains why the owner drives a 60s chev truck instead of a fancy new one.

 

[High Velocity]

Everyone needs to remember that people don't go into business just to survive. They go into business to get ahead. Successful business people drive a 60's era pickup because they want to, not because they have to.


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[pfi572]

Added charges are a billion dollar business .
Utility bills ?? Phone bills ??
Pick something it's everywhere .

 

[LennyR]

I charge extra for every dirty rotten job I do in my shop5% or an extra hour. I use the best in supplies and it's far from cheap. For example a cracked oil pan in a d8 dozer that's been leaking for a few days. By the time I'm done I will have used 50 bucks worth of various stuff, plus coveralls plus plus plus. And when the bill is an argument I add 20% and don't return your next 5 phone calls, fix it yourself.

Way to take a stand. Please post the name of your business !!!

 

[AreWeThereYet]

I charge 9% of labor to a max of $500, but when my invoices can be upwards of $150,000(parts/labor) what is $500.

 

[ABMax24]

Everyone needs to remember that people don't go into business just to survive. They go into business to get ahead. Successful business people drive a 60's era pickup because they want to, not because they have to.


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But at the same time it can't be a get rich scheme, sustainable profit is made from satisfied repeat customers not ripping off everyone once, sometimes $100 lost on one job can mean thousands in profit on later jobs.

 

[ippielb]

If it took all day... Then $40 for beer isn't that bad?

 

[handyandy]

It's kind of funny, I got a transmission built up for my dodge and it cost $7000 but they only charged $35 for shop supplies. if you go to a dealership they charge you $40 and the only shop supplies they used was hand cleaner and paper towel when they finished the job

 

[High Velocity]

It's kind of funny, I got a transmission built up for my dodge and it cost $7000 but they only charged $35 for shop supplies. if you go to a dealership they charge you $40 and the only shop supplies they used was hand cleaner and paper towel when they finished the job

So many like you don't have a clue as to how many supplies are consumed doing mechanical repairs, from many types of cleaners, adhesives and sealants, rags, paper towel, lubricants, etc, etc.. All shops use a huge amount of these items, even dealerships, believe it or not. If you don't know what you're talking about, it's probably best to keep your uneducated opinions to yourself. I haven't worked in the automotive industry for a few years now, but have a full understanding of why shop supplies are added to my bill and I never bitch about.


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[handyandy]

So many like you don't have a clue as to how many supplies are consumed doing mechanical repairs, from many types of cleaners, adhesives and sealants, rags, paper towel, lubricants, etc, etc.. All shops use a huge amount of these items, even dealerships, believe it or not. If you don't know what you're talking about, it's probably best to keep your uneducated opinions to yourself. I haven't worked in the automotive industry for a few years now, but have a full understanding of why shop supplies are added to my bill and I never bitch about.


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So you think a shop used $40 in shop supplies to replace a voltage regulator or a fan belt? You don't need to be a journeyman mechanic to know that's a ripoff. I don't mind if they charge me for supplies that they actually used, I don't like it if they just charge a percentage.

 

[High Velocity]

So you think a shop used $40 in shop supplies to replace a voltage regulator or a fan belt? You don't need to be a journeyman mechanic to know that's a ripoff. I don't kind if they charge me for supplies that they actually used, I don't like it if they just charge a percentage.

Hmmm....$40 shop supplies on a fan belt replacement ? That is a bit much, but based on what I said previously that shops I worked in charged 10 % of the labour bill for shop supplies, that means you payed $400 to have a fan belt changed. I'd be more pissed about that.


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[imdoo'n]

Well i got nailed on total bill not just labour. $200 for the regulator? If it was replaced?

 

[High Velocity]

Well i got nailed on total bill not just labour. $200 for the regulator? If it was replaced?

I never said all shops were run by honest people. I've run into many azzhole shop owners over the years that seem to take great pleasure in ripping people off. I can only speak for places I've worked where 10 % of labour was the standard. Sometimes a little less depending on the job, but never more.


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[rsaruk]

The supplies should be part of the labor. My barber doesn't charge me for the gel he puts in my hair. Restraunts don't charge for the dish detergent used to clean the dishes. Overhead costs are built into the rates. As I said its just another revenue stream just like environmental fees on rental cars. I work for a rental place I know what its about.

 

[eclipse1966]

I fully agree. Every business has overheads to cover from snow removal to pencils so not sure why shops think they are justified doing so.

The supplies should be part of the labor. My barber doesn't charge me for the gel he puts in my hair. Restraunts don't charge for the dish detergent used to clean the dishes. Overhead costs are built into the rates. As I said its just another revenue stream just like environmental fees on rental cars. I work for a rental place I know what its about.

 

[High Velocity]

I fully agree. Every business has overheads to cover from snow removal to pencils so not sure why shops think they are justified doing so.

Because their supply costs are much higher than pencils for the office. Maybe it should be included in the hourly rate, but then that rate would be raised +/- 10%, so it would work out the same in the end. People will never feel good about spending money on vehicle repairs, no matter the cost. When I was still working in the automotive industry, as a shop foreman, I dealt with many people that totally freaked out about the cost of any repairs or services. I think they had already stretched their budget to the limit buying the vehicle and had zero money left for service and repair or were just stupid cheap. I remember one customer at the VW/Audi/Porsche dealer I worked at in Edmonton back in the late '80's. He was a lawyer, but bitched about our $60/hr shop rate every time he brought his Audi Quattro in. Even then, he was probably billing 2-3 times per hour what we were and I guarantee he had MUCH less overhead.


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[High Velocity]

Have any of you non-mechanic types even thought about the costs involved with building and tooling a modern shop, nevermind the cost of maintaining said shop ??


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