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K let me ask you something. If you want to give your money to a specific disaster or person and are told that money will go to that disaster or person, and you find out that its going to "tim buck two" how would you feel?
RCMP took guns from High River homes.
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Riverjet
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I'm not sure what the numbers are but I'm sure I read somewhere that most of the money that people donate to the Canadian Red Cross goes to the wages of the people running it. Many other charities do the same.
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My point was that they have no right or reason to enter private homes without valid prove of wrongdoing, Anybody that has ever been evacuated for any reason should be very concerned if they get evacuated again. Having been evacuated twice in twenty years for forest fires I now will not evacuate without being forced out in handcuffs for fear the same people who are supposed to protect my property will raid it. I have three Grandchildren who have free rein throughout my house so you can bet my guns are all locked up and secure but who knows what they could find. So far all we have to go by is the cops word that all these guns were in plain sight, they are not always paragons of truth. Ok that's my point of view, now everybody can jump on me I got broad shoulders.
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After this I can see that people will refuse to leave when this happens again. Unfortunately, someone will probably die in another disaster after staying when they shouldn't have, all for the fear of the authorities overstepping their authority and common sense. If the RCMP had regular patrols in place they should have found anyone who wanted to be taken out. They're aware of who stayed to protect their property. There was no reports of them finding anyone ( dead or alive) in the house to house searches. And they keep saying that they can't let anyone into high river because its unsafe. If that is true, isn't it a better idea to use your resources to MAKE it safe? I can't seriously believe that the threat to overall safety existed INSIDE the houses of those displaced.
Comparing high river to the other areas affected, one notes a much higher police to remediation worker ratio, far less effort to dewatering the town, a total control of media access ( including direct overflights by media helicopters) and the greatest effort anywhere to create and maintain a secure police perimeter.
I know members of the fire department in high river and they say there's a lack of planning, equipment and manpower to clean up the mess, but lots of police. The effort by the province there is obviously lacking. Any push to allow residents back in in the last day or so is only because of the negative press coverage.
If one was given to conspiracy theories, is all this because its the wild rose party's leader's own riding? Is it to determine as a test case how far the government can go in a local state of emergency to gain control of the populace before its legally excessive?
Or is it simply a case of more incompetence from a chronically incompetent government. Whatever it is, it worries me that the police are the ones firmly in control of a town, with the elected representatives nowhere to be seen, and the civil rights of the residents continually being abused in the name of "safety".
Comparing high river to the other areas affected, one notes a much higher police to remediation worker ratio, far less effort to dewatering the town, a total control of media access ( including direct overflights by media helicopters) and the greatest effort anywhere to create and maintain a secure police perimeter.
I know members of the fire department in high river and they say there's a lack of planning, equipment and manpower to clean up the mess, but lots of police. The effort by the province there is obviously lacking. Any push to allow residents back in in the last day or so is only because of the negative press coverage.
If one was given to conspiracy theories, is all this because its the wild rose party's leader's own riding? Is it to determine as a test case how far the government can go in a local state of emergency to gain control of the populace before its legally excessive?
Or is it simply a case of more incompetence from a chronically incompetent government. Whatever it is, it worries me that the police are the ones firmly in control of a town, with the elected representatives nowhere to be seen, and the civil rights of the residents continually being abused in the name of "safety".
snopro
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RCMP kinda got thrown under the bus today. Prime Minister Harper told them to focus on security and helping people instead of messing with guns. City of Calgary said they could have done this but chose not to in Calgary. Even non gun owners are blasting the cops decision. Someone is going to feel the pain over this.....
GYMBRAT
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Find me an honest cop and I just may let them into my home if/when needed! When HELL freezes over is what im guessing
I get such a kick out of this. And the RCMP wonder why they have such a bad image over the last several years, between stunts like this and tasering people to death, or kicking an unarmed man who was kneeling on the ground in the face. Heck, even arresting a senior citizen for plowing snow with his atv at an old folks home.
It used to be that people respected the RCMP and were happy to see them. Now days its seems the first reaction when approached by an RCMP, is wondering how badly he's going to try to screw you over.
It used to be that people respected the RCMP and were happy to see them. Now days its seems the first reaction when approached by an RCMP, is wondering how badly he's going to try to screw you over.
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Subject: [CSSA-CILA E-News] It can't happen here? Police outrage in Alberta by out-of-control RCMP.
Date: 27 June, 2013 4:44:42 PM MDT
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It can't happen here? Police outrage in Alberta by out-of-control RCMP.
Residents in High River we forced to evacuate their homes. They didn't have a choice. Those who refused to leave would be physically removed. In High River Alberta the RCMP broke into the homes of Canadians and stole their firearms. "The guns will be returned to owners after residents are allowed back in town and they provide proof of ownership," said Sgt. Brian Topham."
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‘Hell to pay:’ Residents angry as RCMP sieze guns from High River homes
‘It’s just like Nazi Germany,’ says resident
By Trevor Howell, Calgary Herald June 27, 2013 3:40 PM
Evacuees confronted the RCMP on the northwest corner of town in a bid to enter the Town of High River on Thursday, June 27th 2013, one week after the Highwood River Flooded leaving the whole town empty. RCMP laid a spike belt down across the road to prevent them from travelling down it.
Photograph by: Lorraine Hjalte , Calgary Herald
HIGH RIVER — RCMP revealed Thursday that officers have seized a “substantial amount” of firearms from homes in the evacuated town of High River.
“We just want to make sure that all of those things are in a spot that we control, simply because of what they are,” said Sgt. Brian Topham.
“People have a significant amount of money invested in firearms ... so we put them in a place that we control and that they’re safe.”
That news didn’t sit well with a crowd of frustrated residents who had planned to breach a police checkpoint northwest of the town as an evacuation order stretched into its eighth day.
“I find that absolutely incredible that they have the right to go into a person’s belongings out of their home,” said resident Brenda Lackey, after learning Mounties have been taking residents’ guns. “When people find out about this there’s going to be untold hell to pay.”
About 30 RCMP officers set up a blockade at the checkpoint, preventing 50 residents from walking into the town. Dozens more police cars, lights on, could be seen lining streets in the town on standby.
Officers laid down a spike belt to stop anyone from attempting to drive past the blockade. That action sent the crowd of residents into a rage.
“What’s next? Tear gas?” shouted one resident.
“It’s just like Nazi Germany, just taking orders,” shouted another.
“This is the reason the U.S. has the right to bear arms,” said Charles Timpano, pointing to the group of Mounties.
Officers were ordered to fall back about an hour into the standoff in order to diffuse the situation and listen to residents’ concerns.
“We don’t want our town to turn into another New Orleans,” said resident Jeff Langford. “The longer that the water stays in our houses the worse it’s going to be. We’ll either be bulldozing them or burning them down because we’ve got an incompetent government.”
Langford blasted High River Mayor Emile Blokland over comments made Wednesday in which Blokland said residents will be allowed to return after businesses, such as hardware and drug stores, are opened.
“It was ridiculous,” said Langford. “I think he’s a puppet on a string.”
Langford said Premier Redford should come to High River to address residents’ concerns and provide information.
“This is at the highest tension,” he said. “What’s going to happen next is that people are just going to be walking across these fields, and I don’t care if they put hundreds of thousand of police officers there, they’re not going to stop from getting in.”
Sgt. Topham said he didn’t know when residents would be allowed to return to their homes. “People much higher up are going to make those decisions,” he said.
He did confirm that officer relied on forced entry to get into numerous houses during the early stages of the flood because of an “urgent need”, said Topham.
Police are no longer forcing themselves into homes and the residences that were forced open will be secured, he said.
Topham said the confiscated firearms have been inventoried and are secured at an RCMP detachment. He was not at liberty to say how many firearms had been confiscated.
“We have seized a large quantity of firearms simply because they were left by residents in their places,” said Topham.
The guns will be returned to owners after residents are allowed back in town and they provide proof of ownership, Topham added.
Residents promised to returned to the checkpoint at noon every day until they are allowed to return to their homes.
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Subject: [CSSA-CILA E-News] It can't happen here? Police outrage in Alberta by out-of-control RCMP.
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It can't happen here? Police outrage in Alberta by out-of-control RCMP.
Residents in High River we forced to evacuate their homes. They didn't have a choice. Those who refused to leave would be physically removed. In High River Alberta the RCMP broke into the homes of Canadians and stole their firearms. "The guns will be returned to owners after residents are allowed back in town and they provide proof of ownership," said Sgt. Brian Topham."
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‘Hell to pay:’ Residents angry as RCMP sieze guns from High River homes
‘It’s just like Nazi Germany,’ says resident
By Trevor Howell, Calgary Herald June 27, 2013 3:40 PM
Evacuees confronted the RCMP on the northwest corner of town in a bid to enter the Town of High River on Thursday, June 27th 2013, one week after the Highwood River Flooded leaving the whole town empty. RCMP laid a spike belt down across the road to prevent them from travelling down it.
Photograph by: Lorraine Hjalte , Calgary Herald
HIGH RIVER — RCMP revealed Thursday that officers have seized a “substantial amount” of firearms from homes in the evacuated town of High River.
“We just want to make sure that all of those things are in a spot that we control, simply because of what they are,” said Sgt. Brian Topham.
“People have a significant amount of money invested in firearms ... so we put them in a place that we control and that they’re safe.”
That news didn’t sit well with a crowd of frustrated residents who had planned to breach a police checkpoint northwest of the town as an evacuation order stretched into its eighth day.
“I find that absolutely incredible that they have the right to go into a person’s belongings out of their home,” said resident Brenda Lackey, after learning Mounties have been taking residents’ guns. “When people find out about this there’s going to be untold hell to pay.”
About 30 RCMP officers set up a blockade at the checkpoint, preventing 50 residents from walking into the town. Dozens more police cars, lights on, could be seen lining streets in the town on standby.
Officers laid down a spike belt to stop anyone from attempting to drive past the blockade. That action sent the crowd of residents into a rage.
“What’s next? Tear gas?” shouted one resident.
“It’s just like Nazi Germany, just taking orders,” shouted another.
“This is the reason the U.S. has the right to bear arms,” said Charles Timpano, pointing to the group of Mounties.
Officers were ordered to fall back about an hour into the standoff in order to diffuse the situation and listen to residents’ concerns.
“We don’t want our town to turn into another New Orleans,” said resident Jeff Langford. “The longer that the water stays in our houses the worse it’s going to be. We’ll either be bulldozing them or burning them down because we’ve got an incompetent government.”
Langford blasted High River Mayor Emile Blokland over comments made Wednesday in which Blokland said residents will be allowed to return after businesses, such as hardware and drug stores, are opened.
“It was ridiculous,” said Langford. “I think he’s a puppet on a string.”
Langford said Premier Redford should come to High River to address residents’ concerns and provide information.
“This is at the highest tension,” he said. “What’s going to happen next is that people are just going to be walking across these fields, and I don’t care if they put hundreds of thousand of police officers there, they’re not going to stop from getting in.”
Sgt. Topham said he didn’t know when residents would be allowed to return to their homes. “People much higher up are going to make those decisions,” he said.
He did confirm that officer relied on forced entry to get into numerous houses during the early stages of the flood because of an “urgent need”, said Topham.
Police are no longer forcing themselves into homes and the residences that were forced open will be secured, he said.
Topham said the confiscated firearms have been inventoried and are secured at an RCMP detachment. He was not at liberty to say how many firearms had been confiscated.
“We have seized a large quantity of firearms simply because they were left by residents in their places,” said Topham.
The guns will be returned to owners after residents are allowed back in town and they provide proof of ownership, Topham added.
Residents promised to returned to the checkpoint at noon every day until they are allowed to return to their homes.
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Subject: [CSSA-CILA E-News] It can't happen here? Police outrage in Alberta by out-of-control RCMP.
Date: 27 June, 2013 4:44:42 PM MDT
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TEAM CSSA SPECIAL REPORT 2- June 27, 2013
It can't happen here? Police outrage in Alberta by out-of-control RCMP.
Residents in High River we forced to evacuate their homes. They didn't have a choice. Those who refused to leave would be physically removed. In High River Alberta the RCMP broke into the homes of Canadians and stole their firearms. "The guns will be returned to owners after residents are allowed back in town and they provide proof of ownership," said Sgt. Brian Topham."
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‘Hell to pay:’ Residents angry as RCMP sieze guns from High River homes
‘It’s just like Nazi Germany,’ says resident
By Trevor Howell, Calgary Herald June 27, 2013 3:40 PM
Evacuees confronted the RCMP on the northwest corner of town in a bid to enter the Town of High River on Thursday, June 27th 2013, one week after the Highwood River Flooded leaving the whole town empty. RCMP laid a spike belt down across the road to prevent them from travelling down it.
Photograph by: Lorraine Hjalte , Calgary Herald
HIGH RIVER — RCMP revealed Thursday that officers have seized a “substantial amount” of firearms from homes in the evacuated town of High River.
“We just want to make sure that all of those things are in a spot that we control, simply because of what they are,” said Sgt. Brian Topham.
“People have a significant amount of money invested in firearms ... so we put them in a place that we control and that they’re safe.”
That news didn’t sit well with a crowd of frustrated residents who had planned to breach a police checkpoint northwest of the town as an evacuation order stretched into its eighth day.
“I find that absolutely incredible that they have the right to go into a person’s belongings out of their home,” said resident Brenda Lackey, after learning Mounties have been taking residents’ guns. “When people find out about this there’s going to be untold hell to pay.”
About 30 RCMP officers set up a blockade at the checkpoint, preventing 50 residents from walking into the town. Dozens more police cars, lights on, could be seen lining streets in the town on standby.
Officers laid down a spike belt to stop anyone from attempting to drive past the blockade. That action sent the crowd of residents into a rage.
“What’s next? Tear gas?” shouted one resident.
“It’s just like Nazi Germany, just taking orders,” shouted another.
“This is the reason the U.S. has the right to bear arms,” said Charles Timpano, pointing to the group of Mounties.
Officers were ordered to fall back about an hour into the standoff in order to diffuse the situation and listen to residents’ concerns.
“We don’t want our town to turn into another New Orleans,” said resident Jeff Langford. “The longer that the water stays in our houses the worse it’s going to be. We’ll either be bulldozing them or burning them down because we’ve got an incompetent government.”
Langford blasted High River Mayor Emile Blokland over comments made Wednesday in which Blokland said residents will be allowed to return after businesses, such as hardware and drug stores, are opened.
“It was ridiculous,” said Langford. “I think he’s a puppet on a string.”
Langford said Premier Redford should come to High River to address residents’ concerns and provide information.
“This is at the highest tension,” he said. “What’s going to happen next is that people are just going to be walking across these fields, and I don’t care if they put hundreds of thousand of police officers there, they’re not going to stop from getting in.”
Sgt. Topham said he didn’t know when residents would be allowed to return to their homes. “People much higher up are going to make those decisions,” he said.
He did confirm that officer relied on forced entry to get into numerous houses during the early stages of the flood because of an “urgent need”, said Topham.
Police are no longer forcing themselves into homes and the residences that were forced open will be secured, he said.
Topham said the confiscated firearms have been inventoried and are secured at an RCMP detachment. He was not at liberty to say how many firearms had been confiscated.
“We have seized a large quantity of firearms simply because they were left by residents in their places,” said Topham.
The guns will be returned to owners after residents are allowed back in town and they provide proof of ownership, Topham added.
Residents promised to returned to the checkpoint at noon every day until they are allowed to return to their homes.
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Subject: [CSSA-CILA E-News] It can't happen here? Police outrage in Alberta by out-of-control RCMP.
Date: 27 June, 2013 4:44:42 PM MDT
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TEAM CSSA SPECIAL REPORT 2- June 27, 2013
It can't happen here? Police outrage in Alberta by out-of-control RCMP.
Residents in High River we forced to evacuate their homes. They didn't have a choice. Those who refused to leave would be physically removed. In High River Alberta the RCMP broke into the homes of Canadians and stole their firearms. "The guns will be returned to owners after residents are allowed back in town and they provide proof of ownership," said Sgt. Brian Topham."
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‘Hell to pay:’ Residents angry as RCMP sieze guns from High River homes
‘It’s just like Nazi Germany,’ says resident
By Trevor Howell, Calgary Herald June 27, 2013 3:40 PM
Evacuees confronted the RCMP on the northwest corner of town in a bid to enter the Town of High River on Thursday, June 27th 2013, one week after the Highwood River Flooded leaving the whole town empty. RCMP laid a spike belt down across the road to prevent them from travelling down it.
Photograph by: Lorraine Hjalte , Calgary Herald
HIGH RIVER — RCMP revealed Thursday that officers have seized a “substantial amount” of firearms from homes in the evacuated town of High River.
“We just want to make sure that all of those things are in a spot that we control, simply because of what they are,” said Sgt. Brian Topham.
“People have a significant amount of money invested in firearms ... so we put them in a place that we control and that they’re safe.”
That news didn’t sit well with a crowd of frustrated residents who had planned to breach a police checkpoint northwest of the town as an evacuation order stretched into its eighth day.
“I find that absolutely incredible that they have the right to go into a person’s belongings out of their home,” said resident Brenda Lackey, after learning Mounties have been taking residents’ guns. “When people find out about this there’s going to be untold hell to pay.”
About 30 RCMP officers set up a blockade at the checkpoint, preventing 50 residents from walking into the town. Dozens more police cars, lights on, could be seen lining streets in the town on standby.
Officers laid down a spike belt to stop anyone from attempting to drive past the blockade. That action sent the crowd of residents into a rage.
“What’s next? Tear gas?” shouted one resident.
“It’s just like Nazi Germany, just taking orders,” shouted another.
“This is the reason the U.S. has the right to bear arms,” said Charles Timpano, pointing to the group of Mounties.
Officers were ordered to fall back about an hour into the standoff in order to diffuse the situation and listen to residents’ concerns.
“We don’t want our town to turn into another New Orleans,” said resident Jeff Langford. “The longer that the water stays in our houses the worse it’s going to be. We’ll either be bulldozing them or burning them down because we’ve got an incompetent government.”
Langford blasted High River Mayor Emile Blokland over comments made Wednesday in which Blokland said residents will be allowed to return after businesses, such as hardware and drug stores, are opened.
“It was ridiculous,” said Langford. “I think he’s a puppet on a string.”
Langford said Premier Redford should come to High River to address residents’ concerns and provide information.
“This is at the highest tension,” he said. “What’s going to happen next is that people are just going to be walking across these fields, and I don’t care if they put hundreds of thousand of police officers there, they’re not going to stop from getting in.”
Sgt. Topham said he didn’t know when residents would be allowed to return to their homes. “People much higher up are going to make those decisions,” he said.
He did confirm that officer relied on forced entry to get into numerous houses during the early stages of the flood because of an “urgent need”, said Topham.
Police are no longer forcing themselves into homes and the residences that were forced open will be secured, he said.
Topham said the confiscated firearms have been inventoried and are secured at an RCMP detachment. He was not at liberty to say how many firearms had been confiscated.
“We have seized a large quantity of firearms simply because they were left by residents in their places,” said Topham.
The guns will be returned to owners after residents are allowed back in town and they provide proof of ownership, Topham added.
Residents promised to returned to the checkpoint at noon every day until they are allowed to return to their homes.
© Copyright (c) The Calgary Herald
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The tabloid newspapers wanted to stir things up for some ratings and everyone is 100% taking the bait.
Mission accomplished
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Wow you must be kidding. All the crap that's going on in this country and this is your retort?
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Talking about the gun headlines, not the flood or not being able to get back into houses. Just to clarify
X-it
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This is certainly an eye opener. If heads do not roll over this my trust of the RCMP will be at an all time low.
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The problem with letting only certain people in is that it is to easy to loose control of them. They have to employ an all or none stand ( just like they did in Slave Lake ) Thats the only way that can say that they did everything they could so that people could not get hurt.
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Yes, some serious issues with decision making. Even tho' it is a dire situation, we see a much needed "revamped disaster plan" that could be implemented for such disasters. This isn't rocket science. Concerns about safety are imperative but there has to be better ways to instigate them.
Once again, the authorities are damned if they doo and damned if they don't. Tough situation and not everyone is going to be happy about certain decisions. The breaking down of locked doors, for whatever reason, doesn't seem just/right to me. Even in an emergency, there must be rules and legislation for the authorities to follow, even in a declared state of emergency.
As I see it, the difference between Calgary and High River is the fact that Nemshi has a large contingent of "paid staff" who are well trained in disaster response. No presence of RCMP because it is a city police force and under the control of a "disaster response team" with the police only being one entity of many. In High River, the poor mayor is so far out of his comfort zone and realm of expertise that it has turned into a doony-brook for the media who themselves aren't helping.
Just as I see it from my comfortable arm chair, high in the Rocky Mountains.........I really feel for all the people who have been and will be affected by this disaster in the days/weeks/months to come.
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I'm guessing that there are specific circumstances such as when a state of emergency has been declared, where police are allowed to enter a home without a warrant. If not, we'll soon know. Of course with the long history of tyrannical rule, government seizure of private property and unlawful imprisonment of citizens it may be best to panic right away.
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A house and some out buildings were going to go over a bank into a creek/river in BC this week. According to the media, the local authorities called a state of emergency so that they could take a back-hoe to the buildings and remove them so that they didn't compromise some down stream bridges. Without the declared state of emergency they would just have to sit and watch and see what happened.
So, I'm thinking the state of emergency gives powers that may be too encompassing in our minds. Maybe some changes to this power need to be looked into.
So, I'm thinking the state of emergency gives powers that may be too encompassing in our minds. Maybe some changes to this power need to be looked into.
snopro
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Oh this will be challenged in court....
GYMBRAT
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you have/had trust in the RCMP? crazy bugger!!!!!!!!
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