please please please be careful!!!

[teeroy]

Sure looks like the shoulder gave away.

ditto....I would say it was total operator error. if you know there isn't enough room, wouldn't you stop rather than endanger your equipment or your life? I don't buy the pickup road hog story for a second.

 

[SNOWPUSHER]

well you might if you knew what it was like driving in a tractor and a moron doesnt want to pull over

 

[teeroy]

Maybe the federal government should run farm implements as they do the commercial side. Then the farmer can charge back that $70 hr pilot car. Get maybe $200 hr for the 530 hp tractor pullin' 60' of drill. Another $200 hr for a combine. This way a proper living could be made for the farmer and your $2.50 loaf of bread now costs ya $15 or more. I think you get where I'm going with this. A good friend of mine moved attachments around the peace block for many yrs and the only spot he hated the most was the Dunvegan Bridge spanning the mighty Peace. I've also moved rigs across this bridge being 14' wide with pilots stopping traffic. People are stupid You would think common sense would really help one out here but noooooo Thus we deal with it the best one can. These guys are not regulated for a reason...you couldn't afford to eat. So give them a break...you know they're out there to plant then harvest. Everyone seems to function with some sort of regularity for the other 10 months of the year

I can't begin to tell you some of the horror stories I have experienced in the last 20 years while crossing the Dunvegan hauling wide loads. several years ago after a very close call with a Gibsons tanker while hauling a John Deere combine, I decided not to haul any O/D farm equipment across that bridge unless I have a pilot car. all the ag customers I haul for agree, and pay the 65 bucks for one to come from Fairview for a 5 minute job.

 

[SNOWPUSHER]

I can't begin to tell you some of the horror stories I have experienced in the last 20 years while crossing the Dunvegan hauling wide loads. several years ago after a very close call with a Gibsons tanker while hauling a John Deere combine, I decided not to haul any O/D farm equipment across that bridge unless I have a pilot car. all the ag customers I haul for agree, and pay the 65 bucks for one to come from Fairview for a 5 minute job.

i believe that, but your not going see a pilot following a tractor going from one field to another

 

[teeroy]

well you might if you knew what it was like driving in a tractor and a moron doesnt want to pull over

believe me dude, I've skinned a lot of equipment (tractors included) and had many experiences with people not wanting to pull over enough. I STOP if it looks sketchy. too many farmers have the attitude (not saying you're one of them) that they own the road, and everyone should know what to do. news flash....not everyone does. it is our duty as the dangerous vehicles on the road to have the foresight and attentiveness to recognize a potential incident, and do whatever we can to minimize or prevent it from happening.

just because you are legally in the right, doesn't make it morally correct.

 

[teeroy]

i believe that, but your not going see a pilot following a tractor going from one field to another

how about go and buy a cheap set of pilot lights to throw on your $70,000 Ford Superduty and get your wife/son/daughter/grandpa/grandma to drive it when you are pulling your 60' air seeder? there are many farmers in the peace country that do exactly that, even though up here most people are pretty saavy about the farm implements.

 

[Cyle]

how about go and buy a cheap set of pilot lights to throw on your $70,000 Ford Superduty and get your wife/son/daughter/grandpa/grandma to drive it when you are pulling your 60' air seeder? there are many farmers in the peace country that do exactly that, even though up here most people are pretty saavy about the farm implements.

Exactly, I have seen in montana MULTIPLE times just a regular truck acting as a pilot car, no flashy lights, just a simple sign. Really helps you look ahead, see what's coming and find a place to stop.

I have NO problem stoping and waiting a few minutes for something to get through. But if for one second they make it seem like there time is more important and I SHOULD wait for them, screw them. It's curtiousy. I don't HAVE to pull over to a driveway or ditch to let a wide vehicle pass, YOUR on MY side of the road. YOUR problem. I just like to be nice about it, don't have to....Not to many ditches I will pull into either, risk cutting up the grass, or something being in there, etc.

Never had a issue passing something like that on a road. Granted, I have been on the other side. Even if i'm in a skidsteer on a road and people can pass no problem, I am ALWAYS looking beside, in front, and behind me looking for cars and people, to make sure there is no people with issues.

 

[Bogger]

Little bit-o-editing going on...............................

 

[imdoo'n]

from what i understand this accident was caused by a pickup not pulling far enough off to the side of the road

i see what you are saying all right, but the road is barely wide enough for the truck let alone a combine. a car running ahead of combine would have slowed anyone coming to a stop. i guess this is what happens more than we think

 

[imdoo'n]

well, if you cant see a 16' wide 15' tall load coming down the road, you have a problem, glasses maybe? harrows arnt a problem on the road, its cultivators, air seeders, etc,,, we cant afford pilots for every tractor we have on the road. farm equipment is ment for road use, otherwise how to we get from one field to the other? safety IS everyones responsibility and if you cant accept the fact that we are on the road with wide loads and cant pull off to the side do you really think you should be on the road? we do have our lights on but its not our fault your not looking for them, we do have our loads chained up. We have SLOW MOVING SIGNS on our equipment, that and lights is all that is required for us to be on the road. if you dont like it maybe next time you sit down to eat you should think how that food got on your plate, maybe a farmer went through all that work to feed you

passed a tractor yesterday, he was dragging some implement behind sticks out 3 to 4 ft. all i could see was a green circle about 3" in diameter coming at me, no reflectors on it with a dusty background. who is at fault. sorry may need bigger glasses.

 

[imdoo'n]

i have to admit you have made me look at the otherside (yours) with eyes a little wider,

i will pull over when i see you coming as i don't want you to roll in the ditch or damage your equipment. just sometimes it is hard to judge what you guys are doing. seems we are all in a hurry to get nowhere. have seen guys going down gravel roads in excess of 120 lots, no where to go if a tractor pops out onto the road. right or in the wrong dead is dead.

as snopusher says be safe.