please please please be careful!!!

[imdoo'n]

well, if you cant see a 16' wide 15' tall load coming down the road, you have a problem, glasses maybe? harrows arnt a problem on the road, its cultivators, air seeders, etc,,, we cant afford pilots for every tractor we have on the road. farm equipment is ment for road use, otherwise how to we get from one field to the other? safety IS everyones responsibility and if you cant accept the fact that we are on the road with wide loads and cant pull off to the side do you really think you should be on the road? we do have our lights on but its not our fault your not looking for them, we do have our loads chained up. We have SLOW MOVING SIGNS on our equipment, that and lights is all that is required for us to be on the road. if you dont like it maybe next time you sit down to eat you should think how that food got on your plate, maybe a farmer went through all that work to feed you

i can understand your problem, sounds like you want me to hit the ditch because you haven't preplanned your trip, not happening. i will get off at the closest approach that i see between you and me, because i don't want to sit there for the next 4 hrs.
i have the glasses already, you still need a pilot car ahead of your 16 wide load, and as long as i stay on my side of road i'm legal , maybe not safe with you coming:d. as far a chained loads, hmm seems to take time and you guy's are going only a short distance, ya right chained up.
food on our plate all seems to come from China, Argentina, Mexico,
public safety is your responsibility, those cultivator shovels stick out a long way, seems like a lot of youguns driving them hmm.

 

[SNOWPUSHER]

i can understand your problem, sounds like you want me to hit the ditch because you haven't preplanned your trip, not happening. i will get off at the closest approach that i see between you and me, because i don't want to sit there for the next 4 hrs.
i have the glasses already, you still need a pilot car ahead of your 16 wide load, and as long as i stay on my side of road i'm legal , maybe not safe with you coming:d. as far a chained loads, hmm seems to take time and you guy's are going only a short distance, ya right chained up.
food on our plate all seems to come from China, Argentina, Mexico,
public safety is your responsibility, those cultivator shovels stick out a long way, seems like a lot of youguns driving them hmm.

safety is EEVVRRYYOONNEESS responsiblity accept the fact. the reason we dont have pilots is because what will they do? yea sure they can tell you that a wide load is coming but if you cant see a tractor with a wide load how will you see a little pilot truck? plus how are we going to know when we will be done a field? we dont want that truck to be sitting their for hours when a pilot is needed for the other tractors that are sitting and waiting, face it their will never be pilots in front or behind farm equipment
no we do not have chains we have something better called pins that cultivators have that lock the wings in place.
as far as food, some gets sent by train to the US then on to china and those places

 

[imdoo'n]

safety is EEVVRRYYOONNEESS responsiblity accept the fact. the reason we dont have pilots is because what will they do? yea sure they can tell you that a wide load is coming but if you cant see a tractor with a wide load how will you see a little pilot truck? plus how are we going to know when we will be done a field? we dont want that truck to be sitting their for hours when a pilot is needed for the other tractors that are sitting and waiting, face it their will never be pilots in front or behind farm equipment
no we do not have chains we have something better called pins that cultivators have that lock the wings in place.
as far as food, some gets sent by train to the US then on to china and those places

a pilot truck can give a warning of a large load coming, so we can find a place to pull over. if you come around a corner and i don't see you coming. where am i to go. the same can be said for you, you see the pickup get over or off the road, i'm only using 6.5 ft. how much do you want. pilot car works wonders.

 

[SNOWPUSHER]

you must be a city boy, can you not find a place to pull over without the help of a pilot truck? we arnt crazy drivers when we drive our EQ in fact if we come across a intersection that is enclosed with trees weather we have the right away or not we will stop. we are way more aware of things when in our tractors. in a way yes we pay road taxes

 

[RMK Junky]

safety is EEVVRRYYOONNEESS responsiblity accept the fact. the reason we dont have pilots is because what will they do? yea sure they can tell you that a wide load is coming but if you cant see a tractor with a wide load how will you see a little pilot truck? plus how are we going to know when we will be done a field? we dont want that truck to be sitting their for hours when a pilot is needed for the other tractors that are sitting and waiting, face it their will never be pilots in front or behind farm equipment
no we do not have chains we have something better called pins that cultivators have that lock the wings in place.
as far as food, some gets sent by train to the US then on to china and those places

Maybe the federal government should run farm implements as they do the commercial side. Then the farmer can charge back that $70 hr pilot car. Get maybe $200 hr for the 530 hp tractor pullin' 60' of drill. Another $200 hr for a combine. This way a proper living could be made for the farmer and your $2.50 loaf of bread now costs ya $15 or more. I think you get where I'm going with this. A good friend of mine moved attachments around the peace block for many yrs and the only spot he hated the most was the Dunvegan Bridge spanning the mighty Peace. I've also moved rigs across this bridge being 14' wide with pilots stopping traffic. People are stupid You would think common sense would really help one out here but noooooo Thus we deal with it the best one can. These guys are not regulated for a reason...you couldn't afford to eat. So give them a break...you know they're out there to plant then harvest. Everyone seems to function with some sort of regularity for the other 10 months of the year

 

[SNOWPUSHER]

man oh man could not have said that better my self

 

[SNOWPUSHER]

i was comming back from edmonton and on a road their was a quad-track tractor going out to his field (i know this guy) and his brother was in front getting people to pull off to the side, I , just habbit pulled far off to the side but all the others were so stupid couldnt figure it out didnt know what on earth to do.... THINK PEOPLE THINK, ITS NOT HARD!!!!!!

 

[imdoo'n]

i for one will pull over if i see you coming down the road, lots of times there is no place to pull over, steep ditches, trees etc. a simple pilot car, letting you know that a wide load is coming may add $10.00 max to the days cost, oh there goes the food bill. yes maybe it is time to get that old unsafe farm equipment off the road, i'm sure a lot of people have died because of it. new modern properly maintained equipment may just cut the cost a bit, as in less breakdowns, accidents etc, you know where i'm going.
you could radio ahead, cellphone etc, easy peasy, driver can meet and pilot you or other implements, then back to grain truck.

all this crap about farmers not making money, give me a break, little to no taxes, 1 or 2 airplanes, big fancy trucks, million dollar equipment, cry me a river. as in any business if your not making money, move on your not much of a business.

i understand your concerns, you recognized a problem, easy, cheap solution is a pilot car. obviously this has happened to you, ask why and is there a solution to your problem, we are all in this together:d

 

[SNOWPUSHER]

i for one will pull over if i see you coming down the road, lots of times there is no place to pull over, steep ditches, trees etc. a simple pilot car, letting you know that a wide load is coming may add $10.00 max to the days cost, oh there goes the food bill. yes maybe it is time to get that old unsafe farm equipment off the road, i'm sure a lot of people have died because of it. new modern properly maintained equipment may just cut the cost a bit, as in less breakdowns, accidents etc, you know where i'm going.
you could radio ahead, cellphone etc, easy peasy, driver can meet and pilot you or other implements, then back to grain truck.

all this crap about farmers not making money, give me a break, little to no taxes, 1 or 2 airplanes, big fancy trucks, million dollar equipment, cry me a river. as in any business if your not making money, move on your not much of a business.

i understand your concerns, you recognized a problem, easy, cheap solution is a pilot car. obviously this has happened to you, ask why and is there a solution to your problem, we are all in this together:d

thats a bunch of bs, for every mile you drive in the country their is always 2-4 driveways MINIMUM, and for the older farm equipment it is cheaper to have it around instead of new stuff because we can fix it our self instead of taking it to the dealership to get it fixed. farmers dont have to high of taxes, but they have more bills, our fuel bill a month can range from $7000 in the winter a month and $10000 a month in the summer, then the power is insane, and medicine for cattle is ridiculous, a 200ml bottle can cost $400 and that olny treats a few, how many farmer do you know that have 1-2 planes? and the "big fancy trucks" dont cost much money, but the ones that do have them farm like 5000 acers, and that million dollar equipment isnt million doller equipment, a Case STX 480 new isnt even worth $400,000. farmers do make money but they also have to spend a fortune to make a living

 

[Ryano]

I think that everone should accept the responsibility for there own actions I have almost rear ended a grain truck on a secondary at night because he had no tail or marker lights and I have pulled into the ditch to let farm equipment go buy it is not hard to figure out

 

[SNOWPUSHER]

yea unless its muddy or steep you can drive in the ditch nothing wron g with that, but lots of people dont know that they can do that

 

[imdoo'n]

sure see a lot of big barns being built, big fancy new houses etc. lots of farmers own planes all through out the peace country, see a few in central alberta also. you have to spend money to make money, just ask around. the day of the family farm is fast fading away. by the way how much money is a 1/4 worth since you bought it? and i have been on many a country road with no approaches, so why didn't you pull over at the last approach or hit the ditch you are bigger. why should the general public wreck there vehicle because you won't get over?

today i was following a dear john pogo tractor down a road, hazard flashers going, went past 3 approaches, am i allowed to pass and where, no directional signals. i'm sure that if i put my signal light on to pass and you decide to turn left, you will be at fault, i don't want to be a farmer.

i understand your plight and made a suggestion that would work, low cost easy and effective.

 

[SNOWPUSHER]

but if you ask around those guys are also $$$,$$$ in debt, i have no clue what a 1/4 is worth, havent bought land for like 20 years. exactly we are bigger, so that means our 60' airseeder would have one hell of a time in the ditch the cultivator would be wanting to go down in the ditch and if its sliding in the air tank would be pushing the cultivator farther in, then how the f#$& do we get out? i know a guy that had that happen,ended up having the highway shut down for hours while they tryed pulling him out. those roads with no approaches probably have a ditch that is maybe a foot deep and in that case yea we do drive in the ditch...we simply dont want to end up like these guys

 

[RMK Junky]

Easy boys. Startin' to turn into a pizzin' contest. Don't need the thread pulled do we. Ease up a bit :d

 

[SNOWPUSHER]

well i'm tryin not to get to aggressive

 

[bigdaddy35]

I agree, it's a shared responsiblity, but the couple of weeks, I haven't passed a piece of equipment that meets these standards posted by the province:

http://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$department/deptdocs.nsf/all/aet12600

http://www1.agric.gov.ab.ca/$department/deptdocs.nsf/all/aet12601.

 

[SNOWPUSHER]

yea we have all that in our equipment, we have a book here on how to tavel safely and it says you need to have the slow moving sign to the left side of the tractor but on the link it says put it in the middle

 

[medler]

Seems pretty simple to me ,,,,if it is bigger and heavier it gets the right of way. You don't pull out to far into an intersection when a super B is gonna turn in front of you do you? Do you get mad when you have to stop at a train crossing for a 250 ton locomotive with 75-100 cars on behind?.Get upset if a fire truck or Ambulance comes up behind you with lights and sirens.Give the bigger vehicle some room ,it is not the end of the world..

 

[xsyourride]

I grew up on a farm and i fell the pain of both sides.But alittle patience with farmer as they are most likely only going few miles and turning off. In 1986 I just about lost my dad to inpatient motorist trying to bet the car coming the other direction and pass the tractor, the guy realized he was not going to make it tried passing in the ditch but didn't see the tractor signal light on and my dad turning into the driveway of are farm. The guy hit the tractor they figured at 140 km plus , Broke the rear duals off the tractor,sheered 6" solid shaft off,3" thick housing,planetary gears into pieces ,bent front drive axle and bent the dozer blade. The duals almost did full 1/2 mile rolling down the highway and ditch. As for the pick-up lets put it this way the steering wheel went through the back of the cab and through the front of the box. In 1993 I was ran off the road and just about rolled the whole unit, was just barely able to save the tractor from rolling but lost the baler. So i've seen and been through few farm events, But i think at the end of the day wither your a farm or trucker with over sized load or some one in there car everyone has a right to be there ,i don't think a few extra minutes aren't going to kill,or will it. You decide.

 

[SNOWPUSHER]

its easier for a car or pickup to pull in a driveway or stop, for us when we stop/slowdown its very hard on the tractor, and to get going again with the airseeder and behind that is a anhydrous tank, and behind that is a packer so thats 4 things being pulled by the little tractor