Ok let's talk 2 stroke oils

[lilduke]

Wonder why BRP hires these book learnin city slickers to develop their oil, they could just gone done the weed wacker test.

 

[canuck5]

Nope - not mix ratios - we are talking - why does this jug of amsoil saber say 100:1 on the front of it in huge numbers? Do you know why?//uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200222/885fc494a341e98d2d933d9025a8f68d.jpg

They directly talk about Mix ratios more than once but never about filters. No doubt an oil rated for 100:1 will have much better lubricity. Amsoil interceptor is widely used at 50:1 and is known to be a great oil. But as the guys stated if they tell you to run specific oil and don’t is your savings worth the free engine he’s getting at 1500 miles unlikely and I’ve even heard of “them” dipping resivoirs before putting through warranty claims.

 

[kingcat162]

I’ve noticed you bring up the south quite frequently. How about something the south doesn’t have that we do. -5, -10, -20 deg temps. Cold starts. I use amsoil dominator in everything. To each his own I guess.

To each their own for sure - I've got a 2004 kingcat 900 and I run amsoil dominator in it also - only thing I've run in it - I just kinda compare a stand up jet ski to a snowmobile - they almost see the same type of abuse - I learned alot about stand up jet skis this summer by completely rebuilding one and by talking to people south of the border from places that the jet ski industry has a way larger following than Alberta Canada - I'm still trying to get to all the info I can - wether or not a 100:1 oil will foul more plugs than a 50:1 oil at the same mixing with fuel ratio - I'm also learning that their are some synthetic 2 stroke oils that actually burn with the gasoline and some that resist burning and the pros and cons to this

 

[sirkdev]

There is a difference in 2 stroke oils for air cooled vs liquid cooled I am not a chemist. The label says so.

 

[kingcat162]

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They directly talk about Mix ratios more than once but never about filters. No doubt an oil rated for 100:1 will have much better lubricity. Amsoil interceptor is widely used at 50:1 and is known to be a great oil. But as the guys stated if they tell you to run specific oil and don’t is your savings worth the free engine he’s getting at 1500 miles unlikely and I’ve even heard of “them” dipping resivoirs before putting through warranty claims.

Absolutely - if you actually use the warranty then use the dealer oil for sure - I've never cared about warranty - I got the 1 yr warranty and most of the warranty got used up while sitting in the garage in the summer - maybe some people would run the amsoil 100:1 saber in their sled if it wasn't $16+/L - the shellbourne 100:1 oil is about $12.32/L - I'm gonna start running it in my 2015 xm 174 dirty banana - in my oil tank and in my turbo oil reservoir - who knows maybe my banana will go to 10,000kms boosted - we will see

 

[kingcat162]

There is a difference in 2 stroke oils for air cooled vs liquid cooled I am not a chemist. The label says so.

Ya I'm aware of the difference from air cooled to liquid cooled - why do you think the recommended oil mixing ratio of a 1983 Honda Odyssey is 32:1

 

[sirkdev]

Ya I'm aware of the difference from air cooled to liquid cooled - why do you think the recommended oil mixing ratio of a 1983 Honda Odyssey is 32:1

my guess is this is before the epa cracked down hard on emissions and we actually injected enough oil. Fuel injection and technology have made great strides since then.

 

[kingcat162]

my guess is this is before the epa cracked down hard on emissions and we actually injected enough oil. Fuel injection and technology have made great strides since then.

My guess is because it's an air cooled 2 stroke motor - the extra oil helps it from piling up - also what do you think the mixing ratio of a 1995 Honda cr250 liquid cooled dirtbikes is - ya it's also 32:1 - the ratios depend on the motor and it's intended use - NOT on liquid cooled and air cooled - I've worked on countless 2 stroke motors from old as all hell to a brand new 850 Doo - I'm talking from real world experiences here not from just being a keyboard warrior

 

[smokindave]

I checked out the Shellbourne site.
Nothing at all on their 2 stroke oil,I couldn’t find any info.
On the bottle in the picture you posted it doesn’t say 100:1 on that bottle.
2 stroke engines with power valves do require cleaners and detergents.
2 stroke engines that are direct injected also require the oil to be thinner,well at least the new Cats do.
I’ll be sticking with my $50 a gallon oil!

 

[skegpro]

https://www.lighthouse-environmental-products.com/shellbourne-fuel-enhancers.html

Could you point out where the two stroke oil is on this website?

 

[niner]

I’ve ran the shelbourne oil now for 3 years. Works as advertised. Run in it my turbo pro and in my Alpha. Won’t run anything else.

 

[kingcat162]

I’ve ran the shelbourne oil now for 3 years. Works as advertised. Run in it my turbo pro and in my Alpha. Won’t run anything else.

Ok nice - some real world experience right there - I love it - see all "you people" do not need to be running the cat oil or the Doo oil or the Polaris oil - you also can be like me and niner and run a better oil for cheaper and you get more - it's a no brainer

 

[AreWeThereYet]

I’ve ran the shelbourne oil now for 3 years. Works as advertised. Run in it my turbo pro and in my Alpha. Won’t run anything else.

Can you get in strawberry scent like the Ipone 2T snow racing oil I run?

Ok nice - some real world experience right there - I love it - see all "you people" do not need to be running the cat oil or the Doo oil or the Polaris oil - you also can be like me and niner and run a better oil for cheaper and you get more - it's a no brainer

Ran Ipone since I bought my Polaris 850, 1600km.

 

[Clode]

I have always ran Amsoil, all the way back to my 91' indy 500, never lost an engine yet. All my 2-strokes get amsoil.

 

[kingcat162]

I have always ran Amsoil, all the way back to my 91' indy 500, never lost an engine yet. All my 2-strokes get amsoil.

That's cool - your just paying too much for a 3.78L jug is all

 

[kingcat162]

Can you get in strawberry scent like the Ipone 2T snow racing oil I run?



Ran Ipone since I bought my Polaris 850, 1600km.

I can probably get a certain scent - I'll find out Monday

 

[skegpro]

Is Shelbourne a scam?
Looks like it is made on a farm?

The guys main job is selling security cameras........

http://www.dundasperformance.ca/

 

[Clode]

I forgot I did have an engine failure on a phazer, the sled had sat for years and the crank seals were rotten. I got an exchange crank from REC supply. I installed the crank. The sled was pre-mix only. The mix was richer than normal for break-in. The crank lasted 70kms and it lost a lower rod bearing. The good side had tons of oil residue. Just a bad crank. I got a crank from Mongoose and the sled is still going. Oil can't fix bad parts.

When I pulled my exhaust valves a 1000kms on my cat (suzuki 800) there was hardly any carbon, some oil residue. They really didn't need a cleaning.

 

[Luke The Drifter]

Anyone remember blue marble oil from back in the day?

 

[skegpro]

Anyone remember blue marble oil from back in the day?

Yes. Story?