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No property rights in Canada, you think you own stuff, but you really don't.

Remember, a government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.
 

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Well, seizing land for military use might be a bit of a touchy subject because of how people feel about military, but what if was for a freeway? We see this all the time when trying to plan large road improvement projects and it's always a fight - what a waste of everyone's time and money. I think it's ridiculous how we have to tiptoe around a very small minority to satisfy the needs of a huge majority.
 

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Well, seizing land for military use might be a bit of a touchy subject because of how people feel about military, but what if was for a freeway? We see this all the time when trying to plan large road improvement projects and it's always a fight - what a waste of everyone's time and money. I think it's ridiculous how we have to tiptoe around a very small minority to satisfy the needs of a huge majority.

Yep, done every day in municipalities, but when Harper's Conservatives do it and the leftie media reports on it, it's sensational.
 

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Well, seizing land for military use might be a bit of a touchy subject because of how people feel about military, but what if was for a freeway? We see this all the time when trying to plan large road improvement projects and it's always a fight - what a waste of everyone's time and money. I think it's ridiculous how we have to tiptoe around a very small minority to satisfy the needs of a huge majority.

Try telling that to the Satina Nation. You'd probably feel differently if they wanted to bulldoze your house that you've lived in for 40years & pay u fawk all ta boot, so they could build a freeway.
 

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There is a 40 year old house on the tsu tina nation that isn't boarded up and used as a crack house? I just figured they got a new one every couple years no matter what. Highway should be no biggy
 

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There is a 40 year old house on the tsu tina nation that isn't boarded up and used as a crack house? I just figured they got a new one every couple years no matter what. Highway should be no biggy

No sorry you miss understood me,, my bad. I'm not worried about the Indians and their BS at all. But its the old Grandma and Grandpa that have been on the farm forever that always get screwed on these Highway deals. The Indians always get their way conversely.
 

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Lol I hear ya loud and clear. I thought you were taking that another direction. But yes I agree that would be a really tough pill to swallow if that happened to a legit home owner.
 

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Absolutely guys, I agree that it's a pretty chitty deal for them, but it's just a fact of life and they need to suck it up. Granted, they should definitely be compensated (and not overcompensated either) appropriately - market value + expenses + some nominal fee for the inconvenience.
 

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They can buy all our land today, but it's sure as hell going to be for more than market value.

For the right price everything is for sale.
 

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Absolutely guys, I agree that it's a pretty chitty deal for them, but it's just a fact of life and they need to suck it up. Granted, they should definitely be compensated (and not overcompensated either) appropriately - market value + expenses + some nominal fee for the inconvenience.

I've had dealings with PWGSC on this, landowners usually get 30% above market value when it comes to DND grabbing up land. Plus moving expenses and everything else is covered. The property this farmer lost only had an old barn and shed on it. He still has the original homestead and is already one of the largest landowners/richest farmers in the area. But I understand the sentimental value he puts on the land.
 

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What about the dollar value for the hard work that's been put into the land over the years, or the loss of revenue the land would have made over the next 50 years. Any farmer knows its not the money because there isn't much in farming, its the life style, the sweat, the pain and the joy that goes with it. Regardless if the family has money or not, im sure any one would be pi$$ed if all the sudden the gov't just showed up at your door telling you they are taking something because they need it. Isn't that what crown land is for?
 
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