New factory short block?

[KVF 700]

sinking 4 grand into a 3500$ sled is.......well.......hmmm...stupid.

even sinking 2g into a shortblock is a tossup IMO

It is and it isn't. When you have lots or enough money for something new, then yeah it's dumb to fix the old pile. But if your on a pretty low sledding budget, fixing is a lot cheaper. 2000 for a shortblock or at LEAST another 4-5k for another sled (even if he parted this one out) to even get riding. And whether it was a 4000$ used sled or a 8000$ used sled the motor was going to go anyways. It the shits it went now but If fixed properly ie new shortblock it will give you a few years of fun without any worries.

Also I dunno about everyone else, but I think the best part of blowing the engine is taking it apaRt to see what happened. Ya it sucks when it happens but that's when a new adventure starts. Even if there is no intention of fixing, I still take it apart ha

 

[CUSO]

To lose a receipt is pretty stupid. I keep everything, even the oil receipts. I show the buyer what I did, and they appreciate it.
When I blew my REV motor, I bought a shortblock, put it in, did a test run and sold it to the first guy who looked at it.
He called me about a week after I sold it to him asking for the receipt for the shortblock, I mailed it to him. He is happy, exept for one thing... a bent nun...




but he bent that himself...:d
Openness and honesty, will always be the best policy.

 

[CUSO]

sinking 4 grand into a 3500$ sled is.......well.......hmmm...stupid.

even sinking 2g into a shortblock is a tossup IMO

I was contemplating on parting out my REV when the motor went... the roller would have sold, but the parting out is a P.I.T.A.

 

[Barnes]

Holy Chit that was a long one....

Maybe the roomate that borrowed the sled blew up the "New Short block" then proceded to downtown Valemount and purchased a back alley jb weld special from behind the Palace.........

I doubt a military man would lie .........

But I also doubt that Teth-Air is that hard up for money that he would Lie about it being a new short block .........

Fun Fact: If everyone that viewed this thread gave Barnes a toonie, he'd have a new etech by now....crazy amount of air time.

Lets see the inside of that block Barnes......
P.S don't lend the roomate your Chit.

As my roommate has already posted up his comments on here, i will respond to this as, I've been living with the guy off and on for the last 3 years. Dave is the guy that started suggesting last year to get a sled. He has walked me through everything i know about sledding, including fixing and riding. He has his own 2009 Skidoo Summit, and it was his fiance who rode the sled. He was by her side the whole time, I also trust her thus why i lent her the sled.

The latter part of lending my sled out to his fiance, was that when and if i decided to take my girlfriend up to the mountains that Dave offered up his sled and truck (with deck) with the promise to fill both back up with fuel. Soo i promise you Dave didn't weld up, crack or abuse this engine in any way.

Thanks for trying to find an easy way out.

 

[skegpro]

Thanks for the clarification.
Did you split the block yet?

 

[Barnes]

Nah, been wrenching all day at work. Supper then sleep.

 

[skegpro]

Work life balance.....

 

[KVF 700]

So what's the prognosis ? Split that block yet? Any receipts? Or is this best left untalked about lol

 

[Modman]

X2 - what's the deal? Someone made a big deal about this and then dropped it like a stone......

Time to see who's fibbing.

 

[imdoo'n]

something doesn't add up, teth air is real quiet, and if barnes is right he has a very valid court case= money back. something sure stinks.

 

[flabbajabba]

takes like ten mins to undoo the bolts to split the block...just sayin

Thirty plus posts slagging Teth-Air and this thing still isn't apart? Put the motor in front of your monitor and rip it down to have a peak. Almost seems like either you already know whats there (or you don't want to).

I'm not picking sides but if I called someone out I'd be backing it up.

 

[maxwell]

exactly. im not saying either way. but ill even pay for the shippping if you send it to me to tear down.

 

[overkill131313]

exactly. im not saying either way. but ill even pay for the shippping if you send it to me to tear down.

now here is a stand up guy! nice maxwell!

 

[tex78]

mabe a 3rd person whould be a good idea for just this case......

 

[trench]

exactly. im not saying either way. but ill even pay for the shippping if you send it to me to tear down.

Two thumbs up for this offer, I would also like to see what comes of this one way or the other.

Trench

 

[trench]

Oops double post.

Trench

 

[sledslut]

ive seen alot of factory short blocks and well if there was a hole in the bottom of the case. that would deff not be used.

id say you got FAWKED over there. and warranty wont even help you on that one.. as soon as they see the bottom end of that motor.. your gonan be out the cash for shipping the motor back to BRP.

 

[Barnes]

Been out on exercise for the last month and a half. Like i stated before, i believe the fact that the carb boot was spilt that caused the motor to lean out and blow out a piston. Yes the case is cracked on the bottom end, but was not repaired like some suggested by the looks of the pictures. Honestly, as i look at this "engine" that currently sits in my basement.. I'm pretty much at the point of saying F*CK IT... The motor is blown... and the carb boot was cracked.. Teth-air hasn't come up with any sort of receipt to show that it was a "new factory shortblock" NOR has he offered to give me any sort of money back. I doubt BRP will give me any cash back for this piece of scrap metal soo really is it worth my time to spilt the case completely? If anyone thinks so... post up or send me a message.

 

[flabbajabba]

The sled never seemed to run quite right, and being my first year of sledding, and wanting to ride as much as possible, i decided that ripping apart this "new factory shortblock" which was supposely installed last year, seemed like a waste of my time. Soo as any other sledder would do, i just kept riding it till she blew.
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That isn't really a good idea and I fall under the "Any sledder" I try to fix things instead of"just kept riding it till she blew"

Yes we think that cylinder was leaned out, due to a crack carb boot.

Like i stated before, i believe the fact that the carb boot was spilt that caused the motor to lean out and blow out a piston. Yes the case is cracked on the bottom end, but was not repaired like some suggested by the looks of the pictures.

soo really is it worth my time to spilt the case completely?

I think your right it sounds like you've come to the conclusion that the carb boot was the problem? Splitting it was to prove you were wronged by Teth-Air, sounds like the case damage happened during this melt down in your opinion? It sucks grab some beers and shove a motor in her and ride.

 

[Barnes]

Pretty much.. flabbajabba.

I'm curious why you highlighted what i said before.. Did you really expect me to completely rip this "new factory shortblock" apart the minute i got it home and check all specs and tolarences? Or should i have taken Teth-air's word and agreed that it was a new factory shortblock installed last year? Should i have also taken his word for it when he told me that both carb boots were replaced last year when the motor was dropped in? Then when i emailed him about the blown motor he couldn't remember if it was this sled or another one that the carb boots were replaced in?

And yes, looks like i have some saving to do... hopefully around september i'll have enough cash to get another "new factory shortblock" and drop it in. I doubt BRP will give me any cash for the blown motor.