Looking ofr Opinions on fabric/Coverall type buildings?

[Rotax_Kid]

I'm in need of some extra storage on the acerage. Post frame, unless I do the work myself, is looking like it may be out of reach in terms of money. I've taken a look at a few coverall style buildings in the 30x40 and 40x40 size range. While they aren't cheap either, the upfront cost is cheaper than a post frame and since it's a temporary building I can get out of paying tax on it.

Reviews seem difficult to come by online. Does anyone have any experience with these type of buildings? Am I throwing money in the wind? This will be a long term setup, not a year or two.

 

[maxwell]

Northbuilt.ca call Shawn he knows his stuff and has all sorts of packages that you can even setup yourself

 

[Bogger]

I would suspect it all depends.... There are a number of pictures on here of portable shelters gone bad but mostly the smaller ones.

I helped put up a 40 x 60 out at the inlaws ranch and it was done right and has never moved. Used the big cement blocks to anchor it 3' x 3' x 4' with thick canvas material that had an exterior plastic type coating.

I think they bought it used for $3000 and said and done with the blocks and miscellaneous hardware I think it was around $5k and 100 hours to finish ( 5 people x 2 - 10 hour days) but that was 4 years ago and she still stands.

 

[Bogger]

Shawn will have him talked into a 4000 sq/ft chalet with matching cedar pole shed in no time......

Northbuilt.ca call Shawn he knows his stuff and has all sorts of packages that you can even setup yourself

 

[maxwell]

as far as i know the covers only last 7-8 years max. so it is a perminant solution but has maintenance costs

 

[pfi572]

Seems like these things collapse also from snow load.
You have to keep snow away from along side of the building .
A few have went down and wrecked a lot of stored Rv's and boats around here.
See lots that haven't had problems also .

 

[52weekbreak]

Faced with a similar challenge, I researched the market for fabric buildings. I chose a Silverstream building which are made just up the road from you. I selected the 38 wide truss arch building which is 50 feet long. There are many sizes to choose from but I went with the galvanized truss which is important because the interiors tend toward being damp unless you put in a concrete floor. For extra ventilation, I put in an exhaust fan with a humidistat that I leave set at 60%. It keeps the building interior humidity well under control.

The truss system is extremely strong and there has been no issues with is creaking in the wind. Last year with the heavy wet snow, it carried about 2 1/2 feet of heavy snow on the crown (middle 8 feet or so) without any issues. Also typically get 6 to seven feet of snow accumulation on the edges and no issue there either.

I laid out a 6" layer of gravel and used 6X4 pressure treated wood around the perimeter as the footing. Screw piles are placed just inside the PT wood base at each hoop for a total of 10 @ $150 each installed. These are used to hold it down in the event of a wind. No issues at all. The cover has a 15 year guarantee and I have no reason to suspect it will not last longer than that. When I do need to replace it, new covers are readily available.

I get lots of compliments on the building and with 1900 square feet of storage, I can fit all of my crap in (wood splitter, sled, quad, two riding movers and other miscellaneous yard equipment as well as a couple other trailers. During the summer, it also holds a 43 foot Monaco diesel pusher along with my 33 foot fifth wheel, my son's 24 foot travel trailer and my 21 foot long pickup.

This complete unit was delivered to my ye=ard in Strathcona County for $14,400 including GST. The 60 Tonnes of gravel was obviously extra (about $3,000 in my yard). I was going to erect it myself but a heart attack kinda slowed me up so had a contractor erect it which cost $6,000 (a crew of four for four days including a powered scaffold rental).

So for about $24,000 everything I own and more is under cover and that included erection. A pole shed is more expensive and requires permitting and the associated taxes. Approval is a big problem here but may be easier in Balgonie.

The only thing I would change is getting a 20 foot wide door instead of the 16 for easier access/egress of stuff.

A replacement cover is $3,500 bucks so over 15 years that really isn't much of an issue.

So everyone has their opinion and while some of the poor quality/problem observations may be valid on other buildings they certainly are not valid here. If I sell the place, I will bring it with me or move it to our farm.

If you PM me with your email I can send some more pics.

 

[ferniesnow]

The pickle sheds that Volker Stein (Alberta highway maintenance contractor) use for holding the salted highway sand seem to be quite durable. I don't know the brand but with your abilities and the great knowledge base of these members, it shouldn't be hard to find out.

 

[Rotax_Kid]

I appreciate all the feedback guys. I've been researching the poop out of this and there sure is a wide range of quality and price by the looks of it.

Surprisingly enough I've learned that the single pipe style of truss in general is difficult to get stamped drawings for. main reason is it wont meet current building code. Only a few suppliers will stamp this. I dont necessarily need a stamped drawing for my area, but it would boost my confidence in this.

Second only two manufacturers supply fabric to the major manufacturers. few seemingly less quality fabrics out there that come from ??.

Ihoping that maybe with some soil cement I could seal up the gravel enough to limit humidity. we use this on some mine sites and sure seals things up well.

 

[doorfx]

Have you checked out Sprung instant structures ?

 

[Rotax_Kid]

Have you checked out Sprung instant structures ?

cant say I have yet

 

[chris79]

You know my answer Wiki, 100'x70' shop. Think of all the projects you could fit in there!!! Lol


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[ferniesnow]

You know my answer Wiki, 100'x70' shop. Think of all the projects you could fit in there!!! LolView attachment 185950


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He just has to dig under the mattress and poof!

 

[Rotax_Kid]

He just has to dig under the mattress and poof!

That mattress is a deflated air bed lately I think!! The wife says if I had a bigger shop my project budget would be bigger and she says the budget isn't getting bigger....I'm not a poor farmer...although it looks like Hazell farms is running into tough times..that machine looks atleast a season old...and it's not even green but a knockoff? Wow...I guess times are tough eh? haha

Kidding aside that is a nice shop and should have been what I built in the first place...Not sure why so much but quoted a 30x40 post frame with 14' walls last week with no interior or floor and quote came in at 31K. If I could make that every 3 days for 4 months of the year I'd quit what I'm doing and come back this in winter...

 

[chris79]

^^^^ I was just giving you the gears, they are expensive for just a storage. Its a lot different when the shop is the central hub for everything that happens on the farm. Our old shop was bulit in 1979, 40x50 x 15ft wall, with concrete dad paid 15k for it...things have changed to say the least. Ours is used for repairs as most of our equipment we keep to 5000hrs plus. We did ours through UFA, then changed a few things like windows, and door sizes ect. They actually had the best deal for what you got. I have never had any experience with the coverall buildings. So bloody windy here sometimes, i don't know how they would fair. Good luck with the project.


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[ferniesnow]

That mattress is a deflated air bed lately I think!! The wife says if I had a bigger shop my project budget would be bigger and she says the budget isn't getting bigger....I'm not a poor farmer...although it looks like Hazell farms is running into tough times..that machine looks atleast a season old...and it's not even green but a knockoff? Wow...I guess times are tough eh? haha

Kidding aside that is a nice shop and should have been what I built in the first place...Not sure why so much but quoted a 30x40 post frame with 14' walls last week with no interior or floor and quote came in at 31K. If I could make that every 3 days for 4 months of the year I'd quit what I'm doing and come back this in winter...

​needed to be more insulting......................I like that! You are sharp this morning!

 

[arff]

Star Line in Leduc sells the fibre sheds. We had one at the Airport insulated and heated.. Seemed ok.

 

[Rotax_Kid]

^^^^ I was just giving you the gears, they are expensive for just a storage. Its a lot different when the shop is the central hub for everything that happens on the farm. Our old shop was bulit in 1979, 40x50 x 15ft wall, with concrete dad paid 15k for it...things have changed to say the least. Ours is used for repairs as most of our equipment we keep to 5000hrs plus. We did ours through UFA, then changed a few things like windows, and door sizes ect. They actually had the best deal for what you got. I have never had any experience with the coverall buildings. So bloody windy here sometimes, i don't know how they would fair. Good luck with the project.


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Just giving ya the gears back buddy! From what you told me in the past you guys didn't have a lot where you could work on much indoors..for the gear you have you needed it.

I'm surrounded by poor farmers back around home. I've heard the shop story from a poor farming buddy all last year...his shop cost him $1.9M and he complained the whole time about how he's broke and he won't be able to do anything anymore...well maybe he didn't need a shop worth that kind of money?

 

[Rotax_Kid]

​needed to be more insulting......................I like that! You are sharp this morning!

You're not too bad for a guy who's retired either!

 

[ferniesnow]

Geoff, have you priced out footings, 2x6 framed walls and strapping with metal siding and doors and windows? Naturally, the roof also. Leave the floor until later.