Last seven years have been the hottest since mankind began

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oil companies never get direct financial subsidies like the renewable energy industry does. They get tax deferrals and enhanced write-downs, but you’ve never seen where a user fee was put on a gallon of gas to be paid directly like you see the direct subsidies given to the green industries. The minute a gas or oil well starts to produce it generates royalties paid to the government, and 70+ years of history has proven that the oil industry is financially viable and consistently produces value added products to the economy. In the 30 year history of the renewable energy industry, it has NEVER been able to show commercial viability anywhere in the world without direct massive government financial support. How long do we keep feeding tax dollars into an industry that can’t support itself? If the lithium carbonate extraction isn’t financially viable do we fund it forever too?

Lot of truth here ! Hard to understand the idiocy of the alternative energy warriors, pushing to destroy the existing best and established way to create energy , that is necessary to allow us to produce food, travel, heat our homes , build pretty well all consumer products, but even sillier is the fact that the development of said green and clean energy can’t get to square one without O & G ! And the way they defend their decisions....... fly 150 private jets , and transport hundreds of save the planet warriors by limousine to plastic technology filled hotels to tell us that burning fossil fuels should stop now . The hypocrisy is so beyond blatant they should be embarrassed, and so should anyone buying into the stupidness.
At the same time , not speaking a word against the actual largest emissions emitters on the planet by a mile, I presume the philosophy must be out of sight out of mind . And also spending huge to buy products from these same countries who must point and laugh at us for being so stupid to allow this. BC is a perfect example , taxing the living $hit out of its residents for use of fossil fuels, while shipping tons of coal everywhere to be used by others !!!!
Let it develop , if it’s viable, it’ll be proven out, and people will choose to switch, and not at taxpayers cost. Stop making a select few rich by giving millions of taxpayer dollars to projects that the majority of historically fail, the recipients go away rich , the left over mess also falling on taxpayer to clean up. This save the planet by sacrificing our countries economic situation crap, when in reality we are a fraction of a fraction of the planets emissions , is so absolutely stupid it’s almost beyond comprehension.
But if you want to live off the grid, drive electric, explore the virtues of alternative energy and product creation , have at’er , i can respect that. But I don’t want to pay a dime extra to build your charging stations, or fund your wind projects, figure out how to git’er’done on your own dime and allow your success to be the reason I choose to switch.
There has been a global warming/climate change/climate emergency warning with dire consequences since I can remember, and the only tangible evidence I have seen of our efforts and responses , is the transfer of wealth from taxpayers to the chosen few, and it’s time we awoke from the dumbassery !
 

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Fawkin CBC. Burning less fossil fuels has cooled the planet while warming it.


ding ding ding, we have a winner .... a true paid Lieberal media outlet spewing more crap:

""Cleaning up the air can actually warm the planet because that [soot and sulfate] pollution results in cooling," which climate scientists have long known, said the study's lead author, Andrew Gettelman, an atmospheric scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research."

spilled the truth, by accident? What will the Trudope govt say about "real science"?
 
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Funny to see this, I was in Fort Chip doing a job for the day, When I cam in on the ice/winter road just past the airport was a Solar Farm, Found it funny that all the solar panels were totally covered in snow. Not sure how those were working covered in at least 2" snow. And who would ever request this in that area anyway, what a waste of $$.
 

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Funny to see this, I was in Fort Chip doing a job for the day, When I cam in on the ice/winter road just past the airport was a Solar Farm, Found it funny that all the solar panels were totally covered in snow. Not sure how those were working covered in at least 2" snow. And who would ever request this in that area anyway, what a waste of $$.

Fort Chip operates on a diesel powered grid, using diesel hauled up the ice road every winter. The solar panels were installed to reduce the reliance on diesel fuel, and cut electricity costs. The 2.2MW solar farm will provide about 25% of the communities electricity on an annual basis. Currently Fort Chip burns about 3 million liters of diesel every year for electricity, the solar farm is estimated to cut that by 800,000 liters per year, or about 25 tanker truck loads.

The total cost of the project was $7.76 million, which by my math pays off in about 10 years on diesel savings alone. Which should have made the project viable on it's own accord. But of course that wasn't good enough, the feds and province paid for the entire project and gave it to the 3 first nations groups of Fort Chip, apparently it's "indigenous owned", when actually it's tax-payer owned.
 

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Fort Chip operates on a diesel powered grid, using diesel hauled up the ice road every winter. The solar panels were installed to reduce the reliance on diesel fuel, and cut electricity costs. The 2.2MW solar farm will provide about 25% of the communities electricity on an annual basis. Currently Fort Chip burns about 3 million liters of diesel every year for electricity, the solar farm is estimated to cut that by 800,000 liters per year, or about 25 tanker truck loads.

The total cost of the project was $7.76 million, which by my math pays off in about 10 years on diesel savings alone. Which should have made the project viable on it's own accord. But of course that wasn't good enough, the feds and province paid for the entire project and gave it to the 3 first nations groups of Fort Chip, apparently it's "indigenous owned", when actually it's tax-payer owned.

Again the terms “estimated” , “should have”. Fact is if it was commercially viable, a private entity would have built and operated it for a profit. But of course, like all green energy schemes, it’s not commercially viable so it’s built with taxpayer dollars.
 

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Again the terms “estimated” , “should have”. Fact is if it was commercially viable, a private entity would have built and operated it for a profit. But of course, like all green energy schemes, it’s not commercially viable so it’s built with taxpayer dollars.

The solar farm was just completed in November, so yeah predications is what they have.

The first phase of this project was completed in 2019, a 600kw solar farm paid for and built by ATCO. If it was such a flop I doubt ATCO would have wanted another 2.2MW connected to their grid.

If you would have paid attention to my solar thread my panels met predicted output. It's not hard to predict +/- 5% what the annual output will be.

But of course you're not actually after facts, but here to spew your uneducated narrative.
 
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