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Keith Brown

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Pretty sure I have a grip and know the laws.
You should fact check before you post, as you're pretty much wrong about everything.
Keegstra was a holocost denier from eckville ab. Kessler was the drug store owner who shot the robber.
He was charged and spent tens of thousands to his lawyers to get acquitted. I remember because I made a donation to his defence fund.
Dorothy joudrie was a rich Calgary socialite who shot her husband 6 times and claimed a battered wife defence and an autonomic state due to her alcoholism. She too was charged and was acquitted after paying lawyers lots of bucks. It was the fact she was rich and female that got her off.
Under the firearms act the only places you can legally have a loaded firearm on your possession are a firing range, or in a rural are where you are actively hunting.
If a situation happens where you kill an intruder on your property the police will determine how you came about having a loaded gun in your possession when you confronted the intruder. If they feel you had it ready to go beforehand , you're in trouble. They and the crown prosecutor view it as a premeditated act. If you stated you called for help, then loaded your gun and defended yourself, you're legally in a much better position.
Thats why I said to keep your mouth shut till your lawyer is there.
Its not paranoia, it's the facts. You should try using some sometime. Educate yourself before you run your mouth.
Thanks for the name corrections and validating how the Canadian justice system has worked in the past. I used those two cases (I apologize for the name mix up and the incorrect spelling) to demonstrate that there is no government conspiracy to convict citizens that protect their selves from aggression exists. In both cases you so ably recalled neither Mr Kessler or Mrs Joudrie were presented with no imminent threat, they shot their victims in the back, but were acquitted. Crap Kessler had a loaded shotgun behind the counter. Which flys in the face of your law abiding citizen conspiracy prophecy. I would like to remind you that the police and the Crown Prosecutors are for the most part reasonable people who are not inclined to lock up citizens who are protecting them selves from a threat regardless if some legal technicality has been breached. It goes with out saying that you should not for go your leagal right to have counsel present when making a statement on any serious matter. PS I have a loaded shotgun by my bed those f#cking raccoons keep getting in to my wife's bird feeders. Got so bad that my neighbour bought me a tactical light for my 870 just to keep the shooting down after bed time.
 

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Thanks for the name corrections and validating how the Canadian justice system has worked in the past. I used those two cases (I apologize for the name mix up and the incorrect spelling) to demonstrate that there is no government conspiracy to convict citizens that protect their selves from aggression exists. In both cases you so ably recalled neither Mr Kessler or Mrs Joudrie were presented with no imminent threat, they shot their victims in the back, but were acquitted. Crap Kessler had a loaded shotgun behind the counter. Which flys in the face of your law abiding citizen conspiracy prophecy. I would like to remind you that the police and the Crown Prosecutors are for the most part reasonable people who are not inclined to lock up citizens who are protecting them selves from a threat regardless if some legal technicality has been breached. It goes with out saying that you should not for go your leagal right to have counsel present when making a statement on any serious matter. PS I have a loaded shotgun by my bed those f#cking raccoons keep getting in to my wife's bird feeders. Got so bad that my neighbour bought me a tactical light for my 870 just to keep the shooting down after bed time.

i never claimed there was a conspiracy nor said you wouldn't be acquitted, just that you would be charged. And depending on what happened and what you say afterward will determine what you're charged with. And then you get to buy some lawyer his BMW in $800/hr chunks, just like Kessler and joudrie. You have a different opinion of the legal system than I, which is your right of course. Everyone expects the police will investigate what happens, and it's the crown who decides on charges. Most cops would not prefer charges. If you were to take your raccoon defence weapon out and kill an intruder, you might get off too, but you'd be charged and then probably financially devastate yourself paying your lawyer. (Ps. I didn't know there were raccoons in Alberta yet).
 

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i never claimed there was a conspiracy nor said you wouldn't be acquitted, just that you would be charged. And depending on what happened and what you say afterward will determine what you're charged with. And then you get to buy some lawyer his BMW in $800/hr chunks, just like Kessler and joudrie. You have a different opinion of the legal system than I, which is your right of course. Everyone expects the police will investigate what happens, and it's the crown who decides on charges. Most cops would not prefer charges. If you were to take your raccoon defence weapon out and kill an intruder, you might get off too, but you'd be charged and then probably financially devastate yourself paying your lawyer. (Ps. I didn't know there were raccoons in Alberta yet).
I to value your opinion. On the raccoons I caught my first raccoon in a 330 conibear trap in 1982 while trapping beavers on my folks place close to the junction of the Bow and Highwood River. Then they started eating our cats food near the big rock west of Okotoks about 20 years ago. Some years I will shoot or trap 5 or 6 some years none. I have tried with no success to live trap them but no luck. Conibear 330 does a nice job but I have to lock up the cat and dogs when I have it set which is a real pain. That's why I usual use a 12 gauge with 3 1/2 double t shot in the 870 it does a good job, but crap you better be quite or their gone..
 
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