Just completed PAL... need advice.

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Maybe since I am not the only one "wondering" a few things... I'll just ask. It might spur other questions as well.

1. Why do some people recommend "blueing" while others may not? What's the upside or is it just aesthetics?
2. Are there advantages to certain materials... such as wood over polymers or stainless steel barrels etc? Or again, is it just personal preference / looks? I (for now) prefer all things black and shiny metal, always have.
3. Why does one person choose a "standard" rifle while others choose an AR style pistol grip carbine? Are there actual advantages or is it just preference? I have to admit there is a "badass" factor that I can't help but like about some guns.

I'm sure there will be more.
 

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The most fun gun I have ever shot is my sons kriss super v 45 acp. Not sure how accurate it is though, just lots of fun.
 

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That setup of mine was around $6000. Scope alone cost me $2000 used. Bipod was around $400. Lots of work done. First round hits out to 700m at the genesee range at the torso target where the head flipped down. Worked well
 

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Simply changing ammo makes a big difference on those larger rifles. Grain up or down changes the trajectory drastically so does tip style, blunt vs point. They are such a large bullet it doesn't take much to throw it off course.
I had the same problem with a 30-06 and 300win mag not hitting at 100m, I sold both guns. Maybe you bought one of them and got it shooting right.
 

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75% of the people i work with have their PALS... none of them waited that long. The shop where I took the course also told us "expect to wait 4 to 6 weeks". Anyway, thanks for your contribution...... also.. where do you get that this is my first message? Carry on sir.... I'd rather prepare early and have extra time, than wait until the last minute and make a rush decision.

Not saying you won't get it in that time, but paperwork with our gov't doesn't happen overnight. If I recall first time I sent my papers in it was 4 month return. Hopefully they have gotten better turnover.
 

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[Lots of factors come into play. Floated vs no floated........ Blueing and stainless are definitely quality factors, how much crap and abuse they are willing to resist and recover from. Many synthetic stocks tend to be lighter where as wooden ones are often hand made and show really well. Many people like the looks of the AR style simply because off that bad a$$ look. You honestly have to look at what's best for you and the budget you are wanting to work with. Like any hobby or sport the sky is the limit when it comes to add ons and features. When I go fishing I carry a something that is durable and will shoot when needed even if has been exposed to the elements, water, sand etc. The sks is not fancy but highly reliable and you can pimp them up to look tactical plus ammo cheap like borscht QUOTE=101110101101;2194743]Maybe since I am not the only one "wondering" a few things... I'll just ask. It might spur other questions as well.

1. Why do some people recommend "blueing" while others may not? What's the upside or is it just aesthetics?
2. Are there advantages to certain materials... such as wood over polymers or stainless steel barrels etc? Or again, is it just personal preference / looks? I (for now) prefer all things black and shiny metal, always have.
3. Why does one person choose a "standard" rifle while others choose an AR style pistol grip carbine? Are there actual advantages or is it just preference? I have to admit there is a "badass" factor that I can't help but like about some guns.

I'm sure there will be more.[/QUOTE]
 

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I'm not a huge synthetic fan, although I do own a few. Again it is all personal preference. I love the looks of a good quality wood stock with a blued barrel, or the grey wooden stalks with a stainless barrel. The only reason I think why some don't like the stainless is because it can reflect light. Weight would be the biggest difference from wood to synthetic, that and the synthetic will take a bit more punishment in the bush where the wood will scratch and nick easily.
Maybe since I am not the only one "wondering" a few things... I'll just ask. It might spur other questions as well.

1. Why do some people recommend "blueing" while others may not? What's the upside or is it just aesthetics?
2. Are there advantages to certain materials... such as wood over polymers or stainless steel barrels etc? Or again, is it just personal preference / looks? I (for now) prefer all things black and shiny metal, always have.
3. Why does one person choose a "standard" rifle while others choose an AR style pistol grip carbine? Are there actual advantages or is it just preference? I have to admit there is a "badass" factor that I can't help but like about some guns.

I'm sure there will be more.
 

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I have a Redfield on one of my magnums. Not sure of the model but man is that thing tough and very clear, picks up light very well. I've dropped it in the rocks more than once. Not sure what they cost but I think they are affordable. I also have multiple Leupolds, and two Hawks along with a couple Bushnels. Not a fan of the Hawk, Leupolds are nice but a little speedy. I also have a scorpion that compares to a Leupold but half the price and suposably has an over the counter replacement warranty. I don't know anyone that's ever tried their warranty though. Good luck.
 

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I'm not a huge synthetic fan, although I do own a few. Again it is all personal preference. I love the looks of a good quality wood stock with a blued barrel, or the grey wooden stalks with a stainless barrel. The only reason I think why some don't like the stainless is because it can reflect light. Weight would be the biggest difference from wood to synthetic, that and the synthetic will take a bit more punishment in the bush where the wood will scratch and nick easily.

I like the looks of a classic rifle and wood stock. And really like the looks of that layered colour wood with a stainless barrel. The black synthetic stock looks cheap to me.


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You know something your right, I do not know anyone who has tried leupold warranty either. And I notice too that redfield was clear as well... about 6 months ago.
 
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Can finally see my app online, says they received the paperwork on Nov 10, the $60 has also been charged to my card today. Will check next week and see what the website says for status
 

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22-250 if your looking for a good long range riffle. Its not always so much the gun but the shooter. Take some time with whatever it is you buy and learn how it works, different ammo with different grains and different tip style can change ballistics drastically. If you change from a ballistic tip to blunt tip it can change the effective target zone by as much as 12" per 100m depending on caliber. If your going to get into long range 250m+ I suggest doing some reading. The "doping the wind" series is a good place to start.

I love my 22-250 for 300-1000m shots. Takes lots and lots and lots of practice the longer the shot. So many variables come into play. Its a awesome hobby with gear and toys being limitless. Enjoy
Mentioned he wanted to hunt with it, 23 caliber is smallest legally to do so.
 

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30-06 I find is better all around caliber, you can buy shells just about anywhere and wont cost you an arm and a leg. Browning is preferred choice and hornady 165 grain boat tail.
 

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Don't even mention a 23 caliber. I missed out on a 23 special about 10 years back, and yes there is a 23 special rifle, there are 4 of them in the world.
 

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Yup that's what I noticed, then the wifes licence came in I think just over a week later.
Can finally see my app online, says they received the paperwork on Nov 10, the $60 has also been charged to my card today. Will check next week and see what the website says for status
 

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Yup that's what I noticed, then the wifes licence came in I think just over a week later.
I hope so, I want to go boxing day shopping for a gun. Thinking a Ruger 10/22 to start with for learning to shoot and playing around then I'll move into something else.
 

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bought this ruger deluxe with the walnut stock a few years ago and still haven't shot it. It is an absolutely beautiful looking rifle.
I hope so, I want to go boxing day shopping for a gun. Thinking a Ruger 10/22 to start with for learning to shoot and playing around then I'll move into something else.
 

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bought this ruger deluxe with the walnut stock a few years ago and still haven't shot it. It is an absolutely beautiful looking rifle.

Ruger 10-22. Good choice guys. Good reliable long lasting gun that's nice to shoot.
 
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