Is man made climate change real?
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Teth-Air
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Re: Is man' made climate change real?
Just read this today: https://www.theweathernetwork.com/c...hange-is-driving-coral-reefs-to-cooler-waters
Looks like things are getting back to normal after 6000 years.
Just read this today: https://www.theweathernetwork.com/c...hange-is-driving-coral-reefs-to-cooler-waters
Looks like things are getting back to normal after 6000 years.
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Lets say that all this climate change is indeed a hoax. They bamboozled the dumbest 80% of the population into believing it.
The year is 2024 and you are building a power plant. It is cheaper to build a solar or wind farm than it is to build a gas plant for the same MWh produced annually.
What do you do?
Lets say that all this climate change is indeed a hoax. They bamboozled the dumbest 80% of the population into believing it.
The year is 2024 and you are building a power plant. It is cheaper to build a solar or wind farm than it is to build a gas plant for the same MWh produced annually.
What do you do?
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A little over the line, but hilarious...
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X-it
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Good thing Alberta keeps stats for their solar and wind plants right now, of coarse the true costs to build those plants are hidden from the public for embarrassment reason. Hopefully they do not start hiding the stats of the true output. There is not one person that is in charge of power would not invest in the greenest for the cheapest right now. Just lies after lies need to be exposed and stopped.
Good thing Alberta keeps stats for their solar and wind plants right now, of coarse the true costs to build those plants are hidden from the public for embarrassment reason. Hopefully they do not start hiding the stats of the true output. There is not one person that is in charge of power would not invest in the greenest for the cheapest right now. Just lies after lies need to be exposed and stopped.
jhurkot
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Ok so if it doesn't pay for itself in the first 2 years it must be a scam right?
Ok so if it doesn't pay for itself in the first 2 years it must be a scam right?
X-it
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Better check to see how long they last and how much power they actually produce over their life time . Do it with an open mind not a greeny fairytale vision. The with that open mind calculate how much co2 it takes to build them start to finish and have them running for 100 years. Seeing how you are concern with Carbon foot print.
Better check to see how long they last and how much power they actually produce over their life time . Do it with an open mind not a greeny fairytale vision. The with that open mind calculate how much co2 it takes to build them start to finish and have them running for 100 years. Seeing how you are concern with Carbon foot print.
jhurkot
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HAHA, you think that a solar module generates co2 while it is running?
400 MW, 100,000 homes. No government subsidies.
https://globalnews.ca/video/rd/05cc2c97-da4b-11e9-be75-0242ac110002/?jwsource=cl
HAHA, you think that a solar module generates co2 while it is running?
400 MW, 100,000 homes. No government subsidies.
https://globalnews.ca/video/rd/05cc2c97-da4b-11e9-be75-0242ac110002/?jwsource=cl
What she said isn't far from the truth. When half the world population doesn't have basic sanitation for their waste, I have a hard time believing that India and China and even the russian's with their ****ty enviro record will ever meet future climate obligations.
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Well first you look back at projects with the same goal, then gauge the success and long term sustainability they’ve achieved . Considering , location , weather patterns, cost of delivering your final product, production costs, labour costs, material costs, time expectation for investment recovery, long term maintenance expectation, marketability of entire project in future, government programs or subsidies available, and i’m Sure other factors.
Unless, you feel the need to go wind or solar to save the planet, then you’d have to turn a blind eye to results of similar past projects .
Well first you look back at projects with the same goal, then gauge the success and long term sustainability they’ve achieved . Considering , location , weather patterns, cost of delivering your final product, production costs, labour costs, material costs, time expectation for investment recovery, long term maintenance expectation, marketability of entire project in future, government programs or subsidies available, and i’m Sure other factors.
Unless, you feel the need to go wind or solar to save the planet, then you’d have to turn a blind eye to results of similar past projects .
X-it
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We have a solar plant operating in Nelson for years already. Not a lot of happy campers over that one. But good for them hopefully they have to pay for everything like nelson taxpayers do. I will have to commend nelson on their stats for the output though. A dam has clean power and it actually produces power.
We have a solar plant operating in Nelson for years already. Not a lot of happy campers over that one. But good for them hopefully they have to pay for everything like nelson taxpayers do. I will have to commend nelson on their stats for the output though. A dam has clean power and it actually produces power.
jhurkot
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In terms of just raw numbers. Solar becomes cheaper than gas per MWh produced. I'm going to say that labour and maintenance on solar will be far less than natural gas. Also your input for solar panels is delivered for free every day to your location. Do you still go ahead and build the natural gas facility?
In terms of just raw numbers. Solar becomes cheaper than gas per MWh produced. I'm going to say that labour and maintenance on solar will be far less than natural gas. Also your input for solar panels is delivered for free every day to your location. Do you still go ahead and build the natural gas facility?
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jhurkot
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That is a small array and honestly I don't think Nelson is the greatest location if you're trying to maximize the ROI. I would be absolutely shocked if it didn't pay for itself in 15-20 years though.
That is a small array and honestly I don't think Nelson is the greatest location if you're trying to maximize the ROI. I would be absolutely shocked if it didn't pay for itself in 15-20 years though.
jhurkot
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A 10kw solar array in Lethbridge will generate roughly 15% more electricity than the same sized array in Nelson. So location is a big factor. Do you have the total cost of the Nelson solar project? I believe it was a 60KW if it is the same one I'm looking at.
A 10kw solar array in Lethbridge will generate roughly 15% more electricity than the same sized array in Nelson. So location is a big factor. Do you have the total cost of the Nelson solar project? I believe it was a 60KW if it is the same one I'm looking at.
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