Idling diesel's, why do you doit?

Lund

Active VIP Member
Joined
May 4, 2013
Messages
4,247
Reaction score
11,288
Location
Vernon/Kelowna
Idling diesel's, what's the deal, why do you leave your diesel idle and idle and idle.
I have seen guy's letting there diesel truck idle while filling up with fuel, going into shopping mall's and because i'm a sledder i have seen many idle their diesel for half an hour to an hour while loading their sled's and a BS session with their buddies in the parking lot.
Other then being just another polluting pig, what lame reason you leave your diesel idle.

Here are some fact's and myth's on idling diesel's.
-There is more engine damage done while idling then on startup, fact, an idling diesel in time will carbon up so bad that engine operating system's like the EGR's, turbo's and exhaust back pressure sensor's will start failing or act up, just to name a couple.
-Oil dilution from prolong idling. Letting your diesel idle for a long period of time will quickly contaminate and dilute your motor oil as the combustion chamber can never achieve proper operating temperature, combustion chamber sealing in a diesel is imperative (rings) but cannot be achieved at idle.
-A myth, diesel engine's need prolong warm up's before you can drive them. The big THREE all say that their diesel truck's require NO more then 2-3min. of warm up time during a cold start before being driven. A fact, the most efficient diesel engine is one at operating temperature, the quickest way to get a diesel to operating temperature is to "drive it" not "idle it".
- I see trucker's and equipment idling all the time, it must be good or ok cause they doit.
The effect on commercial engine's are the same as your truck engine and the cost in most all cases are very high but the difference is that these are working machines, either as a highway tractor where the driver not only drive's but sleep's and uses it as his office or a dozer operator that uses a dozer as his tool to push dirt for 8-12hrs. These are on a payroll and keeping thing's continually rolling is money in the making and the cost of operation.

These are just a few issues with diesel idling, it appears people that owned gas truck's don't have this idling bug. Get it out of your system cause other then polluting our atmosphere worst then what it is, your not doing your truck motor any favor's.....or your wallet.
Maybe you doit because you think it's cool "look at me i drive a diesel", or your just a polluting pig.

BTW, yes i drive a diesel but not an idling one. There are no good valid reason on letting a diesel engine idle with no one in it, but just to let it idle.
 

Lund

Active VIP Member
Joined
May 4, 2013
Messages
4,247
Reaction score
11,288
Location
Vernon/Kelowna
The idling diesel craze and where maybe it came from??????
Till about the early 1990's diesel pickup's were really not very popular, underpowered and noisy, most drove gas powered pickup's, including contractor's.
But equipment contractor's slowly started to buy diesel pickup's as they got better and the diesel fuel used in the equipment could also be used in the pickup thus the use of tidy tank's made their job easier, one fuel for all.
Typical of most contractor's, especially on the job with equipment. Letting machinery idle is the norm, especially equipment operating hydraulic's, thus this habit would quickly transfer to their diesel powered pickup's.
As the general public bought into the diesel truck family this idling of the diesel was quickly adapted by the public as the thing to do with no real rhyme or reason to it, other then every one else does it.
Just my 2cent's on this particular post.
 

Puba

Active VIP Member
Joined
Oct 25, 2008
Messages
6,060
Reaction score
6,284
Location
GBCA
Idling diesel's, what's the deal, why do you leave your diesel idle and idle and idle.
I have seen guy's letting there diesel truck idle while filling up with fuel, going into shopping mall's and because i'm a sledder i have seen many idle their diesel for half an hour to an hour while loading their sled's and a BS session with their buddies in the parking lot.
Other then being just another polluting pig, what lame reason you leave your diesel idle.

Here are some fact's and myth's on idling diesel's.
-There is more engine damage done while idling then on startup, fact, an idling diesel in time will carbon up so bad that engine operating system's like the EGR's, turbo's and exhaust back pressure sensor's will start failing or act up, just to name a couple.
-Oil dilution from prolong idling. Letting your diesel idle for a long period of time will quickly contaminate and dilute your motor oil as the combustion chamber can never achieve proper operating temperature, combustion chamber sealing in a diesel is imperative (rings) but cannot be achieved at idle.
-A myth, diesel engine's need prolong warm up's before you can drive them. The big THREE all say that their diesel truck's require NO more then 2-3min. of warm up time during a cold start before being driven. A fact, the most efficient diesel engine is one at operating temperature, the quickest way to get a diesel to operating temperature is to "drive it" not "idle it".
- I see trucker's and equipment idling all the time, it must be good or ok cause they doit.
The effect on commercial engine's are the same as your truck engine and the cost in most all cases are very high but the difference is that these are working machines, either as a highway tractor where the driver not only drive's but sleep's and uses it as his office or a dozer operator that uses a dozer as his tool to push dirt for 8-12hrs. These are on a payroll and keeping thing's continually rolling is money in the making and the cost of operation.

These are just a few issues with diesel idling, it appears people that owned gas truck's don't have this idling bug. Get it out of your system cause other then polluting our atmosphere worst then what it is, your not doing your truck motor any favor's.....or your wallet.
Maybe you doit because you think it's cool "look at me i drive a diesel", or your just a polluting pig.

BTW, yes i drive a diesel but not an idling one. There are no good valid reason on letting a diesel engine idle with no one in it, but just to let it idle.

Maybe the same reason the gas pot guys idle there trucks in the same way? Just that the clatter of a diesel is more noticeable and stands out is all.
 

teeroy

Active VIP Member
Joined
Oct 7, 2007
Messages
9,143
Reaction score
14,409
Location
Roma, Alberta
the new big trucks and equipment aren't supposed to idle for long either. many of the new machines I haul say right on a warning sticker inside that extended idle times will damage pollution control components.

I can only imagine how many glazed up grocery getter diesels are for sale out there that have never reached optimum operating temperatures in their lifetime.
 

arff

Active VIP Member
Joined
Apr 21, 2009
Messages
141,810
Reaction score
56,059
Location
Leduc
the new big trucks and equipment aren't supposed to idle for long either. many of the new machines I haul say right on a warning sticker inside that extended idle times will damage pollution control components.

I can only imagine how many glazed up grocery getter diesels are for sale out there that have never reached optimum operating temperatures in their lifetime.

I use mine for beer so it's ok.
 

arff

Active VIP Member
Joined
Apr 21, 2009
Messages
141,810
Reaction score
56,059
Location
Leduc
Diesel exhaust gives me a skull cramp. Ours really stinks

ImageUploadedByTapatalk1435092530.706350.jpg
 

RhinoWhino

Active VIP Member
Joined
Jan 2, 2009
Messages
1,852
Reaction score
1,358
Location
Red Deer
I want mine nice and cool when i get in after a long day of burnen timber and rollen coal.
 

lilduke

Active VIP Member
Joined
Sep 15, 2009
Messages
19,135
Reaction score
67,992
Location
Local
I like a cool truck in the summer and a warm one in the winter. That's why I idle.
 

papajake

Active VIP Member
Joined
Dec 5, 2006
Messages
2,921
Reaction score
5,845
Location
Didsbury, Alberta
things might change now that the a,.holes have to buy there fuel. asked a guy in golden why he let his truck run for over a hour. dicks answer, because i work for an oil company and its free
 

pizalm

Active member
Joined
Jun 9, 2009
Messages
52
Reaction score
63
Location
p-dot,mb
I let it warm up in the morning in winter and run it a lunch when I eat. In the summer I rarely idle it. I'll let it cool down a little when I pull in until the egt's are under 400.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
 

tex78

Active VIP Member
Joined
Feb 5, 2010
Messages
17,540
Reaction score
16,952
Location
DA Moose B.C
I let it warm up in the morning in winter and run it a lunch when I eat. In the summer I rarely idle it. I'll let it cool down a little when I pull in until the egt's are under 400.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Yes I idle till my egt are at 350, then shut it off
 

Mike270412

Golden Boy
Joined
Apr 29, 2008
Messages
29,343
Reaction score
47,736
Location
GBCA
I will agree with lilduke on this one. I suppose if I lived in British Columbia and consumed vast quantities of BC bud it probably wouldn't matter if my vehicle was too cold or too hot.
I like a cool truck in the summer and a warm one in the winter. That's why I idle.
 

tex78

Active VIP Member
Joined
Feb 5, 2010
Messages
17,540
Reaction score
16,952
Location
DA Moose B.C
guess must be a low day in the forest lickin leaves, nothing else to beotch at!!!!
U know Larry as a auto tech, Lund has a big and valid point, no need to idle forever and ever like lots do..

Kind of childish to call him a leaf licker



When u are the main man team Crackadoo, and are not any better urself
 
Top Bottom