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May or may not be a source of air loss... 20200517_095909.jpg
 

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Get in a wreck for any reason and CVSE will have a field day explaining to you why its illegal. Kiss your insurance goodbye.

Have to agree. CVSE is hard enough to deal with let's not give them more reasons to write tickets. I understand what Cyle is saying and at one point or another we have all done some hillbilly chit but we shouldn't be giving them more reasons for enforcing the rules
 

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Have to agree. CVSE is hard enough to deal with let's not give them more reasons to write tickets. I understand what Cyle is saying and at one point or another we have all done some hillbilly chit but we shouldn't be giving them more reasons for enforcing the rules
How are they going to prove it? Brakes come on as hard as you dial them in on the controller. I dial mine back all the time pulling my boat.
 

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How are they going to prove it? Brakes come on as hard as you dial them in on the controller. I dial mine back all the time pulling my boat.
No controller makes it easy for them to figure it out
 

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How are they going to prove it? Brakes come on as hard as you dial them in on the controller. I dial mine back all the time pulling my boat.


He said he had no controller or wiring in the vehicle, pretty easy to prove they dont work. Playing with fire in my opinion.
 

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How are they going to prove it? Brakes come on as hard as you dial them in on the controller. I dial mine back all the time pulling my boat.

Have you ever dealt with cvse and their fine tooth comb?
 

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He said safe ,not legal.

Yea there's a big difference between the two. 89lbs on a tire that's max is 100 isn't legal but it is safe.

DOT's could find a reason to ticket a brand new rig right off the lot, if they want to find something they will. My top concern is safety above trying to please the DOT. The odd stupid ticket is the cost of doing business.

Also isn't part of trailer brake requirements if the trailer is less then half the weight of tow unit brakes not required?
 

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Curious and looked it up

Alberta
Trailer Brake Requirements

  • If gross laden weight of trailer is 909 kg / 2,004 Ibs or over, or if gross trailer weight is over half that of the unit, independent braking system is required.
  • Not required for trailers with a gross laden weight of not more than 910 kg (2006 Ibs) or trailers with a gross laden weight of less than half of the weight of the towing unit.

  • Breakaway brakes are required on trailers over 907 kg (2,000 Ibs).

If I had some stuff in the dump box to get weight up to around 30,000lbs I would be legal pulling trailer without brakes......
 

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Yea there's a big difference between the two. 89lbs on a tire that's max is 100 isn't legal but it is safe.

DOT's could find a reason to ticket a brand new rig right off the lot, if they want to find something they will. My top concern is safety above trying to please the DOT. The odd stupid ticket is the cost of doing business.

Also isn't part of trailer brake requirements if the trailer is less then half the weight of tow unit brakes not required?

I don't think that is accurate. Brake requirements have to to with payload and axle requirements. Pulling a trailer with 6000lbs of a skidsteer or mini dig by law would require brakes of some sort I'm most certain regardless of the tow vehicle. Would be the equivalent of me not needing brakes on my logging trailer if was empty. I 100% understand the risk vs reward factor, who is going to actually ask if its working, however if your ever in wreck it's all on you. Just saying.
 

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Yea there's a big difference between the two. 89lbs on a tire that's max is 100 isn't legal but it is safe.

DOT's could find a reason to ticket a brand new rig right off the lot, if they want to find something they will. My top concern is safety above trying to please the DOT. The odd stupid ticket is the cost of doing business.

Also isn't part of trailer brake requirements if the trailer is less then half the weight of tow unit brakes not required?

I don't think that is accurate. Brake requirements have to to with payload and axle requirements. Pulling a trailer with 6000lbs of a skidsteer or mini dig by law would require brakes of some sort I'm most certain regardless of the tow vehicle. Would be the equivalent of me not needing brakes on my logging trailer if was empty. I 100% understand the risk vs reward factor, who is going to actually ask if its working, however if your ever in wreck it's all on you. Just saying.
 

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Curious and looked it up

Alberta
Trailer Brake Requirements

  • If gross laden weight of trailer is 909 kg / 2,004 Ibs or over, or if gross trailer weight is over half that of the unit, independent braking system is required.
  • Not required for trailers with a gross laden weight of not more than 910 kg (2006 Ibs) or trailers with a gross laden weight of less than half of the weight of the towing unit.

  • Breakaway brakes are required on trailers over 907 kg (2,000 Ibs).

If I had some stuff in the dump box to get weight up to around 30,000lbs I would be legal pulling trailer without brakes......


So your trying to tell us that your trailer and mini hoe weight less than 909 kg? Must be awfully small equipment. It is always the less of, not the max when their are 2 options.
 

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Yea there's a big difference between the two. 89lbs on a tire that's max is 100 isn't legal but it is safe.

DOT's could find a reason to ticket a brand new rig right off the lot, if they want to find something they will. My top concern is safety above trying to please the DOT. The odd stupid ticket is the cost of doing business.

Also isn't part of trailer brake requirements if the trailer is less then half the weight of tow unit brakes not required?


It is very easy to tell your not a professional driver, just somebody who has a license so they can do something else.
 

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So your trying to tell us that your trailer and mini hoe weight less than 909 kg? Must be awfully small equipment. It is always the less of, not the max when their are 2 options.

Umm no i'm saying it is less then half the weight of tow vehicle. The second point states if trailer gvw is less then half of tow vehicle weight no trailer brakes required.
 

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I don't think that is accurate. Brake requirements have to to with payload and axle requirements. Pulling a trailer with 6000lbs of a skidsteer or mini dig by law would require brakes of some sort I'm most certain regardless of the tow vehicle. Would be the equivalent of me not needing brakes on my logging trailer if was empty. I 100% understand the risk vs reward factor, who is going to actually ask if its working, however if your ever in wreck it's all on you. Just saying.

As long as it's legal and I feel it's safe i'm not concerned.
 

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It is very easy to tell your not a professional driver, just somebody who has a license so they can do something else.

Oh really and why is that?

I have had my professional license for over 10 years with zero accidents and zero out of service violations so i'd say i'm doing better then probably 95% or more......
 

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Umm no i'm saying it is less then half the weight of tow vehicle. The second point states if trailer gvw is less then half of tow vehicle weight no trailer brakes required.

Read it again.

Trailer Brake Requirements


  • If gross laden weight of trailer is 909 kg / 2,004 Ibs or over, or if gross trailer weight is over half that of the unit, independent braking system is required.


Trailer brakes are REQUIRED if the gross laden weight of trailer is 909 kg or over, OR if the gross trailer weight is over half that of the unit.

You have already met the first requirement, you are required to have trailer brakes. The second stipulation does not mean the first is thrown out. It only means you have to meet one of the two to have brakes required.
 
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