Harper allows the sale of Nexen to CNOOC

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I emailed my MLA and MP on Nov. 30 and asked them to convince their governments to not allow the sale of Nexen to the Chinese and asked why can't the province/country of Canada buy Nexen and keep the profits here at home? I know the government didn't do so good with Petro Canada but I believe we have a better government these days. Really why not? The province of Alberta has money. Between the province and the feds they should be able come up with enough dough to keep the foreigners out and keep the money at home. So I posed the same questions the next day to the PM's office. My MLA responded the same day. My MP has not responded to this day. The PM's office shoved my email over to the Minister of Industry who has not responded to this day either. I voted for this government and I thought they were doing a pretty good job of governing until recently. Frustrating it is. :rolleyes:
 

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I emailed my MLA and MP on Nov. 30 and asked them to convince their governments to not allow the sale of Nexen to the Chinese and asked why can't the province/country of Canada buy Nexen and keep the profits here at home? I know the government didn't do so good with Petro Canada but I believe we have a better government these days. Really why not? The province of Alberta has money. Between the province and the feds they should be able come up with enough dough to keep the foreigners out and keep the money at home. So I posed the same questions the next day to the PM's office. My MLA responded the same day. My MP has not responded to this day. The PM's office shoved my email over to the Minister of Industry who has not responded to this day either. I voted for this government and I thought they were doing a pretty good job of governing until recently. Frustrating it is. :rolleyes:

Because that is communism. You voted for a right wing party and now you're writing letters asking them to do far left things, doesn't make sense.
 

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Oh wow that's weird I never heard anyone say Canada was a communist country when the Liberal government formed Petro Canada Oil & Gas in 1975.
 

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I think the purchase has really little to do with Canada at this time, other that Nexen being a Canadian incorporated company. Without a pipeline, none of their Alberta production is going there anytime soon. I think the Chinese are more interested in Nexen's production in Yemen and the North Sea than that from Alberta.

Currently oilsands output is trading at a steep discount to West Texas or North Sea Brent. You want to know why? Because the only current market for oilsands production is the US, so they can dictate the price. If we can get a pipeline to the coast, at least we can create another market for our product.

A pipeline will be built eventually. If it's not through BC, it will be North, South, or East. BC just needs to make up their mind whether they would rather have a piece of the pie, or settle from the crumbs of equalization.
 

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Oh wow that's weird I never heard anyone say Canada was a communist country when the Liberal government formed Petro Canada Oil & Gas in 1975.
However,i am sure some were thinking it when Pierre T gave us inthe west the finger........

If you had to pick right now between Harper-Mulcair-Justin T...........Which would you like making our financial decisions for the next few years.....???

Harper is not perfect ,but would anyone REALLY want a part time substitute art teacher or leader (mulcair)bent on annihilating Alberta`s/Canada`s resource revenues ??

It really is that simple........
 
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However,i am sure some were thinking it when Pierre T gave us inthe west the finger........

If you had to pick right now between Harper-Mulcair-Justin T...........Which would you like making our financial decisions for the next few years.....???

Harper is not perfect ,but would anyone REALLY want a part time substitute art teacher or leader (mulcair)bent on annihilating Alberta`s/Canada`s resource revenues ??

It really is that simple........

Wait a minute what about Liz May?

I know I hear ya dude that's why I say frustrating it is.
 

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I agree our choices SUCK!!!


However,i am sure some were thinking it when Pierre T gave us inthe west the finger........

If you had to pick right now between Harper-Mulcair-Justin T...........Which would you like making our financial decisions for the next few years.....???

Harper is not perfect ,but would anyone REALLY want a part time substitute art teacher or leader (mulcair)bent on annihilating Alberta`s/Canada`s resource revenues ??

It really is that simple........
 

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Wait a minute what about Liz May?

I know I hear ya dude that's why I say frustrating it is.

I honestly might pick her over those other two-faced bozos. Whether you agree with her or not, she's probably the only honest one of the bunch.
I wish the election results would report on how many voted "None of the Above" like in Brewster's Millions. I believe New Mexico or Nevada have a box for that and they actually report it in the totals.
 

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Wait a minute what about Liz May?

I know I hear ya dude that's why I say frustrating it is.
Green party economic policy is actually fairly fiscally conservative if people could get past the green part and actually read it. Its the socially conservative crap that I have no time for.
 

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Oh wow that's weird I never heard anyone say Canada was a communist country when the Liberal government formed Petro Canada Oil & Gas in 1975.

I've never heard someone say a good word about petro-can. State owned businesses is the definition of communism.
 

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Interesting!!


A new federal program aims to fill the demand for tradespeople in Canada while fast tracking the immigration process for certain skilled workers.

Immigration Minister Jason Kenney announced the Federal Skilled Trades Program on Monday, which could see up to 3,000 applications from foreign workers in its first year.

“With all the huge construction projects going on and oil and gas projects…we’re talking tens of thousands of unfilled jobs, quite frankly because our high schools and our community colleges have not been producing enough tradespeople for these jobs,” Kenney told CTV’s Power Play on Monday.

The program takes effect on Jan. 2, 2013 and Kenney expects the number of eligible applicants to grow over time. Those who qualify for the program will be given permanent residency.

Kenney said that over the last 30 to 40 years, immigration policies have made it close to impossible for skilled labours from abroad to enter the Canadian labour market.

“One of the weaknesses that we’re now changing is that if you didn’t have post-secondary academic education and very high levels of English or French, your chances of getting into Canada were slim to nil,” he said.

Under the new program, applicants will need to be either pre-approved by a province or territory, or have a job offer in hand.

Other requirements include basic language proficiency and at least two years working experience in their skilled trade.

“We don’t want to re-create the big problems of endless backlogs and wait times that have characterized our dysfunctional system in the past,” said Kenney.

Eligible occupations, including electricians, welders, heavy-duty equipment mechanics, pipefitters and others, will be specified on a list the federal government is now working to draw up with provinces, territories and labour groups.

The list of occupations experiencing labour shortages will be released ahead of the program's official launch in January.

The need for workers is said to be particularly high in northern Alberta, where billions are being spent on oilsands projects.

In a report released last spring, the Petroleum Human Resources Council of Canada projected that the energy industry there will grow, on average, by 73 per cent by 2021.

And some occupations will add more than 100 per cent of their current workforce by then, it said, noting the forecast did not account for labour market turnover or demand for workers in the construction and service industries.

According to the PHRCC, Canada's oil and gas industry will need to fill a minimum of 9,500 jobs by 2015 in order to accommodate growth in the sector as well as retirements and attrition.

Skilled tradespeople currently make up a small percentage of immigrants to Canada, despite national demand for qualified welders, pipefitters and electricians, for example.

“We always want Canadian (workers) to come first, but let’s be blunt about this, provinces and employers have to do more in terms of skills training in these areas,” said Kenney, adding that he’d like to see vocational training programs emphasized at the high school level.

“We have a lot of skills shortages in trades and a surplus of people coming out (of schools) with a certain kind of academic degree and this has created a paradox of 15 per cent youth unemployment in an economy with hundreds of thousand unfilled jobs.”

When he announced the new program earlier this year, Kenney said the existing criteria put tradespeople at a disadvantage because the rules are geared toward professionals.

Many of them wind up in Canada, Kenney said, but end up unemployed or under-employed in unrelated jobs.

Critics have countered that there are approximately 1.5 million unemployed workers in Canada who could be trained to fill the labour market gaps themselves.

With files from The Canadian Press


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yup say goodbye to the wages now being earned once the flood gates have opened. Once the corporations get a taste of cheaper skilled labour they will put more pressure on the government for more applicants. This exact same thing happened in the shipping world and now the only "high paid" person on board is the captain and chief engineer. The rest of the guys are cheap workers from place like the Philippines and other Asian countries.


Interesting!!


A new federal program aims to fill the demand for tradespeople in Canada while fast tracking the immigration process for certain skilled workers.

Immigration Minister Jason Kenney announced the Federal Skilled Trades Program on Monday, which could see up to 3,000 applications from foreign workers in its first year.

“With all the huge construction projects going on and oil and gas projects…we’re talking tens of thousands of unfilled jobs, quite frankly because our high schools and our community colleges have not been producing enough tradespeople for these jobs,” Kenney told CTV’s Power Play on Monday.

The program takes effect on Jan. 2, 2013 and Kenney expects the number of eligible applicants to grow over time. Those who qualify for the program will be given permanent residency.

Kenney said that over the last 30 to 40 years, immigration policies have made it close to impossible for skilled labours from abroad to enter the Canadian labour market.

“One of the weaknesses that we’re now changing is that if you didn’t have post-secondary academic education and very high levels of English or French, your chances of getting into Canada were slim to nil,” he said.

Under the new program, applicants will need to be either pre-approved by a province or territory, or have a job offer in hand.

Other requirements include basic language proficiency and at least two years working experience in their skilled trade.

“We don’t want to re-create the big problems of endless backlogs and wait times that have characterized our dysfunctional system in the past,” said Kenney.

Eligible occupations, including electricians, welders, heavy-duty equipment mechanics, pipefitters and others, will be specified on a list the federal government is now working to draw up with provinces, territories and labour groups.

The list of occupations experiencing labour shortages will be released ahead of the program's official launch in January.

The need for workers is said to be particularly high in northern Alberta, where billions are being spent on oilsands projects.

In a report released last spring, the Petroleum Human Resources Council of Canada projected that the energy industry there will grow, on average, by 73 per cent by 2021.

And some occupations will add more than 100 per cent of their current workforce by then, it said, noting the forecast did not account for labour market turnover or demand for workers in the construction and service industries.

According to the PHRCC, Canada's oil and gas industry will need to fill a minimum of 9,500 jobs by 2015 in order to accommodate growth in the sector as well as retirements and attrition.

Skilled tradespeople currently make up a small percentage of immigrants to Canada, despite national demand for qualified welders, pipefitters and electricians, for example.

“We always want Canadian (workers) to come first, but let’s be blunt about this, provinces and employers have to do more in terms of skills training in these areas,” said Kenney, adding that he’d like to see vocational training programs emphasized at the high school level.

“We have a lot of skills shortages in trades and a surplus of people coming out (of schools) with a certain kind of academic degree and this has created a paradox of 15 per cent youth unemployment in an economy with hundreds of thousand unfilled jobs.”

When he announced the new program earlier this year, Kenney said the existing criteria put tradespeople at a disadvantage because the rules are geared toward professionals.

Many of them wind up in Canada, Kenney said, but end up unemployed or under-employed in unrelated jobs.

Critics have countered that there are approximately 1.5 million unemployed workers in Canada who could be trained to fill the labour market gaps themselves.

With files from The Canadian Press


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I've never heard someone say a good word about petro-can. State owned businesses is the definition of communism.

What about when the Alberta government formed Alberta Energy Oil & Gas. I know lots of people who bought shares and made a ton of money. It has been sold off now. Encana swallowed it. I never heard one word from anyone saying Alberta was a communist province.

Look folks all I'm saying is we need to rescue our resources from the rest of the world. I don't know exactly what percentage is foreign owned but I think before the Nexen sale our resources were 71% owned by foreign countries. If we don't get our resources back we are going to let these foreigners push our wages back until we can't make payments anymore. What would stop the Chinese for example from bringing a large plane full of workers to spend the winter in Western Canada living in camps or hotels. The oil companies pay for that now so it won't cost them anymore for their cheaper than cheap workers to live here. Then when spring break comes they fly them back to China. Cheap labor for them no work for us and we still have to pay taxes, mortgage, and every thing else in a country where you must have a higher wage than these people could work for to make it.

These foreign oil companies are getting away with dirt cheap royalties in the this country. I always said and I still say the reason the patch slowed down when Stelmach tried to raise royalty taxes was because of the foreign content in the oil patch. Because they pouted and starved us out. Now that we have horizontal technology and wells making 800 m³/day oil and 1500 10³m³/day gas that is huge money. Norway makes them pay 50% royalty and the Norwegian government has billions in the bank. I say either these Oil companies can pay up for the Canadian citizens or Canadian Corporations should own the resources and keep the profits at home. No reason we can't build a pipeline to Eastern Canada. They need oil. No reason why Canadian owned oil couldn't sell at the pumps for much less than world oil prices if it was Canadian owned. This country bends over backwards with open arms and open wallet to entice others from all over the world to come here and work. If we had Canadian owned oil, cheaper gas at the pumps, less taxes than any where else in the world wouldn't that entice folks to want to come here work and live? Call it communism or what ever you want to call it but I have never heard of prosperity for citizens in Communist countries in the world. I don't see any reason why we can't have a democratic society AND state owned natural resources. Non renewable resources I might add. Also makes me wonder when the well is dry are these foreign countries going to stick around for many many years afterwards to abandon all these wells? Why would they right?
 
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