Going to drop the writ of election on Sunday

[rknight111]

So should we just have a 2 party system?

Like the USA, Republicans and Democrats ~ Conservatives and Liberals

 

[team dirt]

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This is the bullch!t that’s been talked about, ppc votes will be nothing more than liberal or ndp votes

To bad those other 12-14000 people didn’t vote PPC instead of wasting their vote on the left wing conservatives. It works both ways bud. If you want change you need to vote for change and not cry when the person you voted for didn’t win.

 

[imdoo'n]

Somebody called me stupid and a few other things for calling out vote splitting, what an unkind thing to say.
But now it kind of points out who really was stupid.
24 seats is a big deal and could have put CPC as the minority - they have a few items to work on to hit majority status though.
Not sure how you get the east to see the liberal damage being done.
PPC, thanks for your contributions this election, helping insure the Turd back in.

lol, like a fine Narcist, you continue to blame others for your own failures, the only ones you should be blaming are the CPC themselves! O'toole just didn't get the job done, Period, Live with it or keep on whining. People will vote for whomever they agree with, looks like libs, ndp , maverick, greens and ppc supporters didn't agree with O'Toole and his flip flop politics. No one owes the CPC their vote! earn it or lose it
let it go your looking like a cry baby! either keep whining or change the system!!!!

 

[snochuk]

lol, like a fine Narcist, you continue to blame others for your own failures, the only ones you should blame are the CPC themselves! O'toole just didn't get the job done, live with it or keep on whining. People will vote for whomever they agree with, looks like libs, ndp , maverik, greens and ppc supporters didn't agree with O'Toole and his flip flop politics.
let it go your looking like a cry baby! either keep whining or change the system! Go

Just my point of view which will not be changing and yes O'toole and CPC have big issues to solve for sure.
Change the system, trying daily, but some don't get it.

 

[snochuk]

Like the USA, Republicans and Democrats ~ Conservatives and Liberals

Would make voting simpler for sure.

 

[imdoo'n]

Just my point of view which will not be changing and yes O'toole and CPC have big issues to solve for sure.
Change the system, trying daily, but some don't get it.

yet you point fingers, next time you point, take a look at how many fingers are pointing back?
so why are you blaming PPC voters? they tried to change the dam system , yet you vote for the same political agenda, expecting a different result, are you getting the picture yet. so for the last 2 elections, CPC didn't get the job done following a lighter Tru-d brand of socialism, IT is not working! i say bring back Harper and see what happens, people are tired of TRU-D, shows by election results! O'toole needs to be gone now, a new outlook, new party direction , something? otherwise here we sit. so lets say CPC got a minority this election, any idea where we would be in a couple months? another friggin election! libs and ndp would vote O'Toole down. maybe you need to do some thinking, quit blaming every one else and put the BLAME where it belongs.

 

[RyanM]

 

[ABMax24]

Looking back on this thread I wish a bunch of you could realize what the full political spectrum across this nation is, why there is a shift to the left of political ideals, and why creating another right wing party (arguably far right) was such a terrible idea.

Conservative ideals are the minority in society today, and to have any chance at winning an election all Conservatives need to stand behind one united party. We need to stop quibbling about minor details and consider the whole picture when election time comes. We are never going to get everything we want, but I know I'd rather get most of what I want than nothing at all.

Unfortunately I see it being at least another 4 years before Conservatives realize this, the determining factor will be when the PPC either calls it quits or is absorbed by the CPC. Until then get used to Trudeau.

 

[The big greasy]

Funny how some say should have voted otoole. Fact is he is a liberal, same as Justine. Trading one for the other. Can't stand either... As if justin was going to chance getting taken out from a vote anyhow.... Not.

 

[imdoo'n]

the mail in ballots haven't been counted i think.
libs have 158 - 20 ridings ( ppc may have changed votes) = 138
cpc have 119 seats + 20 ( ppc changed votes ) =139
ndp have 25 seats = 25
block have 34 seats = 34

so no matter how you add the numbers CPC lost no matter how hard you wish and click your heals. tru-d has the right to still form government, NDP or Block will prop him up, CPC has no one to help prop them up. anyone thinking PPC splitting the vote caused a CPC loss, is delusional at best.
so unless CPC got 170 votes they lost and got a good spanking! get a new platform going forward or keep losing. like Scheer, it was O'Tooles election to win. There is 850,000 mail in ballots still being counted? 41.5 % of the population didn't vote? that's close to 15.9 million people who did not vote, let that sink in! now a thinking person might say that is the problem

 

[snochuk]

yet you point fingers, next time you point, take a look at how many fingers are pointing back?
so why are you blaming PPC voters? they tried to change the dam system , yet you vote for the same political agenda, expecting a different result, are you getting the picture yet. so for the last 2 elections, CPC didn't get the job done following a lighter Tru-d brand of socialism, IT is not working! i say bring back Harper and see what happens, people are tired of TRU-D, shows by election results! O'toole needs to be gone now, a new outlook, new party direction , something? otherwise here we sit. so lets say CPC got a minority this election, any idea where we would be in a couple months? another friggin election! libs and ndp would vote O'Toole down. maybe you need to do some thinking, quit blaming every one else and put the BLAME where it belongs.

Well for sure the CPC did not have an adequate strategy nor did they have alternate answers on questions to not look like they were rolling over at times.
To say that Otoole is Turd light or is a different brand of socialism is purely speculation - he has not been in power yet to see what he would actually do.
Kind of hard to accuse when he has not even been there yet (OMG he has a gun, quick, charge him with murder before he actually shoots somebody) - maybe he would suck balls?????? Worse that the Turd - dunno he has not led yet, can only speculate.
To get there you have to do a little azz kissing like Turd and tell people what they want to hear, get in then giver.
Not sure what will work the best for any right wing party - you have to have buy in from the seat center of the universe, not sure how you appease that group and say your are conservative still.
Where is that line???????

Max told the brutal truth, he called it as it is and I agree with 97% of what he says - how did that turn out for him in actual seat count.
Ya not so good.
He scared the chit out of socialists with the truth and he did not even blast the Turd nearly as hard as he could have.
He called it as it is, ballzy for sure, but to many people want freebies to buy the truth.
Also a new strategy required to appease the center of the universe.

If only 59% of people voted that will be a horrid fact.
This country is going down the toilet faster than gravity can suck it, what does it take to get people engaged?
The people here are passionate about Canada, that shows - maybe that 41% needs to join S&M????

Don't have a heart attack over what I say - I only have the voice of one.

Go???

 

[rider4life]

Would make voting simpler for sure.

It would, but it would almost guarantee nothing but a liberal majority for the rest of time, if you add up all the progressive votes, they usually far surpass the conservative votes in the majority of Canada

 

[imdoo'n]

Well for sure the CPC did not have an adequate strategy nor did they have alternate answers on questions to not look like they were rolling over at times.
To say that Otoole is Turd light or is a different brand of socialism is purely speculation - he has not been in power yet to see what he would actually do.
Kind of hard to accuse when he has not even been there yet (OMG he has a gun, quick, charge him with murder before he actually shoots somebody) - maybe he would suck balls?????? Worse that the Turd - dunno he has not led yet, can only speculate.
To get there you have to do a little azz kissing like Turd and tell people what they want to hear, get in then giver.
Not sure what will work the best for any right wing party - you have to have buy in from the seat center of the universe, not sure how you appease that group and say your are conservative still.
Where is that line???????

Max told the brutal truth, he called it as it is and I agree with 97% of what he says - how did that turn out for him in actual seat count.
Ya not so good.
He scared the chit out of socialists with the truth and he did not even blast the Turd nearly as hard as he could have.
He called it as it is, ballzy for sure, but to many people want freebies to buy the truth.
Also a new strategy required to appease the center of the universe.

If only 59% of people voted that will be a horrid fact.
This country is going down the toilet faster than gravity can suck it, what does it take to get people engaged?
The people here are passionate about Canada, that shows - maybe that 41% needs to join S&M????

Don't have a heart attack over what I say - I only have the voice of one.

Go???

yes! From what i know we each should have only one vote, and an opinion. i also agree the country has gone down a slippery slope to destruction, will ppc ever get elected, who knows? That the 41 % feel their vote doesn't matter, is a sad commentary on society? the point i'm trying to get across is you are trying to blame PPC voters for the CPC failure to get elected and not where it belongs. . not just you, but a few others on SnoMud also.
i think we agree on a lot of things, sometimes emotion gets the best of us. me included.

 

[Summitric]

I still believe we should do more like the Americans... Vote for a Prime Minister, and a separate vote for you Member of Parliament OR whichever party.... and more the mixed members are with parties the better. So then proper house of commons votes would be by individual members, and not just complete party wave votes(whether that member likes it or not).

 

[ABMax24]

I still believe we should do more like the Americans... Vote for a Prime Minister, and a separate vote for you Member of Parliament OR whichever party.... and more the mixed members are with parties the better. So then proper house of commons votes would be by individual members, and not just complete party wave votes(whether that member likes it or not).

Also to add to this, the Governor General should be elected by the people, not appointed by the governing party.

 

[snochuk]

yes! From what i know we each should have only one vote, and an opinion. i also agree the country has gone down a slippery slope to destruction, will ppc ever get elected, who knows? That the 41 % feel their vote doesn't matter, is a sad commentary on society? the point i'm trying to get across is you are trying to blame PPC voters for the CPC failure to get elected. not only you, but a few others on SnoMud also. think about it, tell me if i'm wrong?
i think we agree on a lot of things, sometimes emotion gets the best of us. me included.

I don't really "blame" voters, especially individuals, they will buy what they like to hear, especially when it is the right answer.
I will however be pushy to persuade people to a strategy to get rainbow socks ahole out.

Blame?
I more question sound reasoning and especially that of Max.
Why get on a soap box and sell your brand of snake oil when you know there will be minimal sales.
People will buy your snake oil if it has the ingredients they are looking for - but why start if you just can't sell enough to start a franchise in the market.
He would likely have served Canada better selling his brand of snake oil from within the CPC, it does have the right ingredients - hopefully he would have gotten the leadership in time.
And maybe he knew that the CPC old boys club would have blocked him??? Dunno
Blame? No not really, sound reasoning to get to a favorable end, yes.

 

[Cyle]

the mail in ballots haven't been counted i think.
libs have 158 - 20 ridings ( ppc may have changed votes) = 138
cpc have 119 seats + 20 ( ppc changed votes ) =139
ndp have 25 seats = 25
block have 34 seats = 34

so no matter how you add the numbers CPC lost no matter how hard you wish and click your heals. tru-d has the right to still form government, NDP or Block will prop him up, CPC has no one to help prop them up. anyone thinking PPC splitting the vote caused a CPC loss, is delusional at best.
so unless CPC got 170 votes they lost and got a good spanking! get a new platform going forward or keep losing. like Scheer, it was O'Tooles election to win. There is 850,000 mail in ballots still being counted? 41.5 % of the population didn't vote? that's close to 15.9 million people who did not vote, let that sink in! now a thinking person might say that is the problem

Those numbers make all the difference in the world, in that scenario NDP would not have enough seats to prop up liberals only the block would and I would bet the bloc would be just as likely to work with either party, maybe more the PC's.

 

[Mike270412]

It would, but it would almost guarantee nothing but a liberal majority for the rest of time, if you add up all the progressive votes, they usually far surpass the conservative votes in the majority of Canada

Isn't that what we have now? A liberal majority? Castro has been doing whatever the fawk he wants with zero opposition.

 

[Legend14]

Isn't that what we have now? A liberal majority? Castro has been doing whatever the fawk he wants with zero opposition.

Even when the so called conservatives were in,they just gave into whatever the liberals wanted or the CBC would doxx them.

 

[RyanM]

Apparently a scrutineer in Sudbury claimed they saw PPC votes being handed to a opposition party… I’m sure we can all guess witch one. They are supposedly filling it with elections Canada.

PPC scrutineers also made claims of being bullied at polling stations.

I don’t care which party it happens to, if it happened it should be taken care of.