I bought a pair of 509 freeride gloves off season cycle works this summer for a good deal. Real leather palms, medium warmth, I wear my 4/5 year old warm motorfist gloves up and down the trail only and are still in good shape. Then wear these freeride gloves all day long till I go back down. 14 days on them so far this year and still bone dry inside all day long. If they get a little wet on the outside they will freeze up, throw them under the hood for a few minutes and good to. Surprised how much I like them.
