FSR roads and radio's

[teeroy]

Canfor Hines Creek has adopted the "up/down" thing, I like it better than "loaded/empty". out in Seal Lake east of here they still call "loaded/empty" but have added "empty heavy" if they are loaded with fluid etc going in the empty direction.

I can see how this could all be very confusing to someone not familiar with radio controlled roads. I miss the days when all we had were CB's and 5 channel VHF.....you just drove really careful like there was oncoming around every corner.

 

[Modman]

Ok then... some of the trucks have hay racks that are getting dragged behind the truck and take up the whole road on the corners they do not follow lines very good. Coming up the hills there is no weight on the truck so they are spinning like crazy trying to make the grades... they have to go like hell or waste time chaining up. So if you meet one of these on the corners in or out your toast anyway. Safest way is follow a truck so you do not need a radio, they know exactly where you are anyway it is just like a grapevine. If you have a radio you know exactly whats coming at you and your going to be completely warn out by the time you get there. no radio life is great, just keep your truck 4 feet from the other trucks bumper

Sorry man but your logic on this subject is flawed IMO. Maybe that's how you guys roll in PG but simply running up someone's ass, highballin' down an icy forestry road with a loaded sled trailer is not my idea of a safe trip. Then when the logging truck turns off at the 3 km sign and now you have another 30 kms to go before your riding area, you now have no radio and no "escort".

FFS I think you guys are all over complicating it, like so many things on this site. Read the signs at the bottom of the road, use the frequency and ask questions over the radio. Up/down, empty/loaded, in/out, whatever....call out the KM's, they will soon figure it out that you are coming in or out by the numbers u r calling out are going up or down. If you talk too much or call too often, they probably will tell u.

I think the big picture message is getting lost here - get a radio, get it programmed, and use it. When an 80,000 lb loaded semi is coming at you on an icy single lane road in the middle of buttfawk nowhere, you probably can't have "too much" communication.

 

[Weirboondocking]

Modman has got it right... the KISS method KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID.

 

[Pink-Inc]

Sorry man but your logic on this subject is flawed IMO. Maybe that's how you guys roll in PG but simply running up someone's ass, highballin' down an icy forestry road with a loaded sled trailer is not my idea of a safe trip. Then when the logging truck turns off at the 3 km sign and now you have another 30 kms to go before your riding area, you now have no radio and no "escort".

FFS I think you guys are all over complicating it, like so many things on this site. Read the signs at the bottom of the road, use the frequency and ask questions over the radio. Up/down, empty/loaded, in/out, whatever....call out the KM's, they will soon figure it out that you are coming in or out by the numbers u r calling out are going up or down. If you talk too much or call too often, they probably will tell u.

I think the big picture message is getting lost here - get a radio, get it programmed, and use it. When an 80,000 lb loaded semi is coming at you on an icy single lane road in the middle of buttfawk nowhere, you probably can't have "too much" communication.

Thank you. It's really not that hard of an idea to grasp. Drives me nuts when you meet someone in a corner that hasn't been calling. Stupid and dangerous

 

[Tacodriver]

You really do not have to call every km your radio if it is good can be heard up to 50 kms away, gets really irritating. Every 5 km is usually good enough.

A couple of weeks ago I was lowbeding a yarder and met a pickup which had called out his km heading up but had forgotten to turn up his volume. Lucky for me my boss was just ahead of me so i was expecting him, i could not move over too much yarder alone weighs 100,000 lb.

If you are on a unfamiliar road meeting a log truck can always ask where a good place to meet would be and when you get clear of the road let them know. The drivers usually can tell you when the next truck will be and where any bad spots will be, don't need a 30 foot enclosed jacknifed on an icy hill.

 

[ferniesnow]

You really do not have to call every km ........If you are on a unfamiliar road meeting a log truck can always ask where a good place to meet would be and when you get clear of the road let them know.

Simple is good. On the busy active roads the loggers generally call every KM (at least those in the East Kootenays). Courtesy is key and as Tacodriver says, "when you are clear, let the trucker know". That is something that was missed in the first 65 posts!

 

[ZRrrr]

Going to throw another twist into this (that's what I do). During the summer months in BC we have gone to listed tourism sites often accessed by FSR's. I have seen the frequency and "Must Call" signs on the road, yet there are a swath of tourist vehicles going up and down. Granted the roads were wider for most sections. Have also been on several guided fishing trips, with BC licenced guides, up and down FSR's and they did not carry radios.

So what's the deal with that?

 

[X-it]

A grader operators nightmare this winter, they can't wing the snow off far enough. So the roads in a lot of areas are narrow, so narrow you can't pass anyone on them or turn a pickup around on. So is the loaded truck going to get stopped because he knows you have not made it into a pull out?.... who is going to back up? All the loaded trucks? or all the empty trucks? Or you. Make sure you weld a hook on the back of the trailer so the empty truck can pull you backwards up some of the hills. The truckers know the guides, know the speeds they travel and make concessions for them. Of coarse wide roads are not a problem for the most part. Lots of loaded trucks on our highways and no one has radios

 

[moyiesledhead]

Going to throw another twist into this (that's what I do). During the summer months in BC we have gone to listed tourism sites often accessed by FSR's. I have seen the frequency and "Must Call" signs on the road, yet there are a swath of tourist vehicles going up and down. Granted the roads were wider for most sections. Have also been on several guided fishing trips, with BC licenced guides, up and down FSR's and they did not carry radios.

So what's the deal with that?

Well......there's actually nothing in the Forest Service Road Use regulations requiring the general public to have radios...........and you can't fix stupid!

 

[moyiesledhead]

You really do not have to call every km your radio if it is good can be heard up to 50 kms away, gets really irritating. Every 5 km is usually good enough.

What about the other guys radio? Maybe not as good? Really.....calling every km is not that irritating!

 

[ferniesnow]

Going to throw another twist into this (that's what I do). During the summer months in BC we have gone to listed tourism sites often accessed by FSR's. I have seen the frequency and "Must Call" signs on the road, yet there are a swath of tourist vehicles going up and down. Granted the roads were wider for most sections. Have also been on several guided fishing trips, with BC licenced guides, up and down FSR's and they did not carry radios.

So what's the deal with that?

Generally, in the summer time it is not as serious a problem as the roads are not icy and one can pull over usually with one tire in the ditch on the narrower parts. Granted, there are some places that present a challenge and occasionally the odd tourist has to hit the ditch.

 

[Marley]

The pics of that side of the sunrise and the signage are great... if every FSR road had that sort of signage and it was respected things would be so much easer.

Agreed. Well said.

 

[X-it]

Modman that was pretty funny, you could wait a 3k for another truck. Or listen to all the loaded trucks coming and roll the dice, better look in your mirror tho an empty might be rolling up your ass. Or wait for the weekend and be safe.

 

[ferniesnow]

................ Or wait for the weekend and be safe.

Don't count on that! Self loaders go when there are logs to haul. They may not be able to unload at the mill on Saturday night but they get an early start for Monday. Private contractors work weekends and maintenance dudes work weekends......at least in the Koots!

 

[imdoo'n]

lots of fun meeting the big trucks on a friggin corner that have not been calling, who in there right mind calls every 5km, call every km so people know where you are, on bridges and steep hills, just makes sense to me. I always ask when a truck is coming towards me if they have an area for me to pull over, as they usually know the roads better than i do. some roads or road channels are confusing, with different roads or off roads using the same call channel.

right or wrong dead is dead.

 

[Syclone74]

Here's my 2c for what I do as I've been working on radio controlled roads for going in 20years.
1- I call when entering a road and leaving the road.
2- I call the first couple km to see what's Coming at me
3- if road is quiet then I call every 5km and if I hear something coming I will call every km till we meet
4- most of the heavy hauler say what they are ie: log truck, lowbed ect. Don't matter if the are empty or loaded I pull over where safe to do so even if they are a few km away cause easier for them to pull me out if I'm stuck and if you put one of them in the ditch Believe it or not but they will remember your viecal and you will end up In the ditch not by your choice but because they will put you there and no one will stop to pull you out. I've seen it happen. As for the ones who don't have a radio or don't call I just drive the normally expecting someone around every corner.
Last point is if you have a radio you can hear people coming at you on a busy road call every second km until you get close to the oncoming as I've seen more people in the ditch due to people calling every km and getting cut off cause nobody heard them. Makes for a good laugh afterwards while they bitch each other out afterwards.

 

[Syclone74]

These roads are usually only busy first thing in the mornings and at night due to everyone going to and driving home from work. Just use curtisy and common sense.

 

[Turts]

Radios just showed up.
Now what?
I have some buddies that use radios so I suppose I need to find what frequency they use?



Turts, typing on Tapatalk

 

[medler]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/08/8y5a7yry.jpg
Radios just showed up.
Now what?
I have some buddies that use radios so I suppose I need to find what frequency they use?



Turts, typing on Tapatalk

Get them programmed with the channels you want and need Any radio shop should point you in the right direction.

 

[dpolacik]