Changing a 154 to a 163

[Cberg]

Hey everyone, I am new to the forum and getting back into the sport after being away for a couple of years. Looking at a 2011 800 etek with a 154, I have rode a etek with a 163 x 3" and loved it . If I wanted to change to a 163 x 2.5" in the future, would I need to do more than rail and tunnel extensions?

 

[snopro]

Cooling will become an even bigger issue in marginal snow if this is not attended to. The ETEC's run hotter than the Pteks.

 

[neilsleder]

You might want to gear it down. But other then that it's a direct bolt in. Why not just buy a 163 etec there should be some for sale with the new xm coming out.

 

[snopro]

BTW welcome to the site!

 

[Cberg]

I have been looking for a 163, just that a nice sled came up for sale that is a 154 with some warranty.

 

[snopro]

I have a 2012 163x for sale and available April 2nd?

 

[Cberg]

Also thinking I might not mind the 154 as I do prefer boondocking in the trees more than doing big hill climbs, and maybe it would work good to upgrade to a 2.5" 154 camoplast track or if they come out with a 154 x 3" track. Something like that might be the best of both worlds..

 

[pipeliner72]

I have a 2011 and a 2012 summit x 163 for sale.

 

[Cberg]

PM some details.

 

[tex78]

I've got a 2010 163 x snowcheck for sale. Has a 2012 track on it

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[Cberg]

I am looking for an etec. Thanks

 

[takethebounce]

The best way to do the 154 to 163 swap is rails (or extensions) you will want longer sliders, the track and a tunnel extension to keep the snow flap out past the track to keep cooling at a premium.

I would opt for rails that have a better attack angle like the 2013's. There are options out there to get aftermarket rails that have an improved attack angle, or you can find someone who has done a 174 swap and get their rails.

There isn't a huge difference between a 154 and 163. Footprint matters and in the deep you will notice the 163 will get you a little farther. The biggest difference I find on a 163 is I can't wheelie out of a climb the same way I can on a 154. It would just be a matter of getting more seat time to compensate for the longer track.

If you are a heavier rider, don't be affraid to go with the 163. I'm a light weight and I outclimb my buddy on his 154. If he had a 163 he might still get a little further but the HP is going to be the same. In the trees and boondocking the 154 does well.

 

[farmerboy]

Hey tex what's your 2010 going to go for?

 

[tex78]

It listed in the for sale section...

It's the cleanest mint one I've seen.

I've put on 300-400 miles and have one ride on a new Doo 12 take off track

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[sscamaro_skwark]

Have an 09' 154" summit w/163" track, works awesome, power hits harder so it spins easier, but they climb equally amazing, not to mention they love playing in the trees!!!! Screw a short track for in the trees, I am in love with the long tracks in the tight technical trees, can't wait to try a 174". or even a 3" paddle, or BOTH!!!!, not to mention maybe one day even with a turbo!!! Who knows, only time will tell

 

[Cberg]

Ended up finding a xp with a 163, so I don't have to worry about the swap anymore. Cheers

 

[SUMMIT TREE]

I was actually surprised at how much different a 163" is from a 154" when pulling a hill in powder It was my 800Etec and a new xm 163 I got a jump on him and he still crested the hill about 4 sled lengths ahead of me and the xm was still in it's break in mode

 

[team-x]

noticed a big difference between my ported 09 154 and the 163 2.5