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You can do anything with water treatment, heck astronaunts recycle waste water (piss) and drink it, Arubas fresh water is from the ocean its desalinated. Its all about economics.
 

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Let's look at it in a different light. Years ago, before we started using hydro carbons for energy. They claim that there was a natural balance of the CO2 in the atmosphere. There was a chart some where that showed the cycle of CO2 between summer and winter, Now they claim that the cycle continues but the numbers are trending upward. They also claim that it started trending upward at the start of us using hydro carbons as energy.
Lets say that this is correct. If we implement carbon capture and store it under ground then the trend should reverse itself. Not? And if it don't, then at least we can tell the leaf lickers to STFU.

I could be wrong.
How about co2 has absolutely nothing to do with climate change. They made it all up to control us and make themselves trillionaires.
 

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haven't you heard we have to much excess carbon, thus we must use it?

would you prefer they use fresh water? which is also being used now?
and if they were to use up all the water your plants would be dead a long time ago/ wonder how we would fair?
We will never run out of water. Whether you believe we are on a spinning ball hurtling through space or a flat plane under a firmament. Either way it's a closed system. Unless the water heads to "outer space" it's always gonna be on earth somewhere.
 

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We will never run out of water. Whether you believe we are on a spinning ball hurtling through space or a flat plane under a firmament. Either way it's a closed system. Unless the water heads to "outer space" it's always gonna be on earth somewhere.
those living in arizona,nevada, california, utah, may say otherwise?
 
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u should tell that to those living in arizona,nevada, california, utah! they may say otherwise?
Yes the good people at NASA were measuring the pole with precision accuracy in 1900. It’s moved 30’ because there’s no ground water Arizona…more taxes will correct the Earths axis problems. The CO2 underground will probably help too. I guess I was wrong…
 

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Yes the good people at NASA were measuring the pole with precision accuracy in 1900. It’s moved 30’ because there’s no ground water Arizona…more taxes will correct the Earths axis problems. The CO2 underground will probably help too. I guess I was wrong…
from what i understand clean drinking water makes up 3 % of all the water on the globe, and of that only 1% is freely available for human use. I don't think the world will run out of water anytime soon, but all it would take would be a world wide nuclear attack and there goes your fresh water? ha

as to Niners post, i would think using CO2 versus fresh water would be preferable to everyone, although most of the oil companies are grandfathered in for using fresh water now! CO2 injection is becoming more common, but i'm thinking it is minor compared to fresh water! Oil companies will use what is the cheapest method available to them period!
 

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only reason fresh water is used is because it can be taken from a stream or river in close proximity to the rigsite. When Crew drilled don our land the 3rd question they asked was do you know where we can get water from? Knowing what I know now wouldn't have helped them as much as we did
 

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only reason fresh water is used is because it can be taken from a stream or river in close proximity to the rigsite. When Crew drilled don our land the 3rd question they asked was do you know where we can get water from? Knowing what I know now wouldn't have helped them as much as we did
I hope you charged them for the water…?
 

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I hope you charged them for the water…?

they took from the river that was a few miles away leading into two hills, the river is now a creek :( Same thing I notice 200k in the bush when I drill; what was once rivers are now a stream :(
 

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they took from the river that was a few miles away leading into two hills, the river is now a creek :( Same thing I notice 200k in the bush when I drill; what was once rivers are now a stream :(
this seems to be the new reality almost everywhere, no idea what is causing it? but it is concerning! most of the creeks, rivers and sloughs seem to be lower over the last few years?
 

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who really knows these days. I do know i have seen sloughs that have been full of water year round, close to bone dry July August? could be Aliens? ha
 

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this seems to be the new reality almost everywhere, no idea what is causing it? but it is concerning! most of the creeks, rivers and sloughs seem to be lower over the last few years?
25 years ago when I started my apprenticeship there was a dried up slough right by Hussar. I watched that thing blow white dust every time the wind blew. Husky even drilled a well out in the middle of it. In 2005 I moved a house onto my acreage property and that was the wettest year I have ever seen in my life on the prairies. We had 29” of rain in brooks that summer. Delayed my project over 2 months just trying to get concrete down. Cost me about 50g extra on my project. That same year that dried up slough became a lake. Husky had to build an elevated road to that well and eventually just abandoned it. We have been relatively wet ever since 05 until about 4 years ago. Now driving past that lake it is now a dried up salt flats again blowing white dust every time the wind blows. What I’m getting at is we forget how and when things were in the past if we don’t have some kind of core memory to associate timelines. The world works on cycles that are a lot bigger than we can see.
 

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We need a higher price on water. Lets make 50$ showers the new normal 😇
 

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25 years ago when I started my apprenticeship there was a dried up slough right by Hussar. I watched that thing blow white dust every time the wind blew. Husky even drilled a well out in the middle of it. In 2005 I moved a house onto my acreage property and that was the wettest year I have ever seen in my life on the prairies. We had 29” of rain in brooks that summer. Delayed my project over 2 months just trying to get concrete down. Cost me about 50g extra on my project. That same year that dried up slough became a lake. Husky had to build an elevated road to that well and eventually just abandoned it. We have been relatively wet ever since 05 until about 4 years ago. Now driving past that lake it is now a dried up salt flats again blowing white dust every time the wind blows. What I’m getting at is we forget how and when things were in the past if we don’t have some kind of core memory to associate timelines. The world works on cycles that are a lot bigger than we can see.
yes, bud tells me the divide hills near me at the turn of the century 1890's were devoid of trees, now trees stand 50-70 ft in the air. several sloughs on my travels for the first 25 - 30 yrs have been overflowing with water, and for the last 15 yrs have been bone dry several times.
must be climate change???? all depends on what you have experienced! the trees, bud told me why they were missin., Sloughs likely due to environmental changes. Still makes a guy wonder?
 
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those living in arizona,nevada, california, utah, may say otherwise?
most of these places have seen a drastic increase in water levels in the last 3 years. lake mead is up 20' in 2 years. its still lower than usual but is still raising and was actually lower than this back in the 30's a lot of the drought areas in the US are seeing a large rebound. climate is cyclical and measured over a 100 year span your not even touching a 10th of a cycle.
 

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most of these places have seen a drastic increase in water levels in the last 3 years. lake mead is up 20' in 2 years. its still lower than usual but is still raising and was actually lower than this back in the 30's a lot of the drought areas in the US are seeing a large rebound. climate is cyclical and measured over a 100 year span your not even touching a 10th of a cycle.
exactly, will take a few years before groundwater levels return to pre levels. same as here. Ask a typical resident from these area's as they will likely tell you a different story though? seems like climate extremes are cyclic in nature, may be due to solar flares or chem trails?
 
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