Bow Cycle North

[snopro]

I find it hard to believe that a smart business person would walk away from $450,000 profit in 3 months work whether they were gonna get a BRP franchise or not. That's good coin.

 

[mur190]

I find it hard to believe that a smart business person would walk away from $450,000 profit in 3 months work whether they were gonna get a BRP franchise or not. That's good coin.

x2, a lot of people think just cause you sold them $15k worth of stuff you put 15k in your pocket when in reality after cost depending on scenario you put anywhere from $500-2000.

 

[Tchetek]

Well regardless, of profit on new units. Some of these dealers have been lacking quality customer service. If the service is the money maker, some effort to please your customers might keep the doors open. I’ve walked through these dealers many times with out anyone even lifting their head to acknowledge a customer.

Common parts always need to be ordered? And multiple week wait times for a service appointment is unacceptable.

 

[mur190]

Well regardless, of profit on new units. Some of these dealers have been lacking quality customer service. If the service is the money maker, some effort to please your customers might keep the doors open. I’ve walked through these dealers many times with out anyone even lifting their head to acknowledge a customer.

Common parts always need to be ordered? And multiple week wait times for a service appointment is unacceptable.

My reference was to the service department (shop) but yes quality customer service is more important to some then others, but with todays market many dealers rely on their customer service and repeat customers. Happy customer tells 3 buddys, angry customer tells 10.
Sounds like you need a new dealer, the last few years since switching to do I have only dealt with dealers over 2 hours away for these reasons.

 

[imdoo'n]

I find it hard to believe that a smart business person would walk away from $450,000 profit in 3 months work whether they were gonna get a BRP franchise or not. That's good coin.

sounds a lot like some embellishments happening somewhere.

 

[NoBrakes!]

Wheres ARFF with a sales pitch and numbers from BOS?

 

[FernieHawk]

sounds a lot like some embellishments happening somewhere.

Maybe it was gross sales...$1,800,000 annual would seem reasonable.

 

[imdoo'n]

no idea, any business doing only repairs and parts etc, with no sales, doing a half mill gros in three months , and being unable to continue, was being run and staffed by morons! as far as i'm concerned.



i can only assume there is more to the story, as in lots of bs coming from someone,

 

[snochuk]

Ill go against ya that one, typically low profit margins on units, also not un common to pay intrest on units after a year really hacks up your profit, some manufacters do they buy more better deal program (lower intrest rate, better dealer cost) which is hard on the smaller dealers. Shop, parts and accessories are the money maker, but In todays market even with that some very established dealers are having a hard time. Also as you mentioned the overhead, just think of what a large dealers 509, Snowpulse and KLIM or Motorfist booking order is worth, a BRP fall 850 belt order! or their spring ATV Tire order. Even with their cost at 25-40% less then you pay over the counter.

Yup, overheads like shop cost, taxes, staff will eat up a lot and yes he also said different sleds (X to non-X) have different holdover cost from manufacturer.
My cousin' friend let some numbers slip and ya the markup is pretty big but so are overheads - this was back in 2014.
Not that the markups are totally unfair when you look at personnel risk. Owners live with huge risk - nerves of steel when starting out.

 

[arff]

Wheres ARFF with a sales pitch and numbers from BOS?

I would never comment on another dealer.
It sucks for them.
Very sad situation

 

[tex78]

was that gross or net? after all expenses paid?

sell $450000.00 of product and service at a cost of $300k, leaves you 50k a month to pay staff, pay the mortgage, power.
we also deal with some high and low season here no different then sica would.

That's gross, but that was the first 3 months open, and first month was still 70% or less set up stuff still not none

 

[tex78]

I find it hard to believe that a smart business person would walk away from $450,000 profit in 3 months work whether they were gonna get a BRP franchise or not. That's good coin.

Rich kid hissy fit, is what I chock it up too, heard it happened before at a baja race a few years back too, may or may not be the case, dunno

 

[tex78]

sounds a lot like some embellishments happening somewhere.

no idea, any business doing only repairs and parts etc, with no sales, doing a half mill gros in three months , and being unable to continue, was being run and staffed by morons! as far as i'm concerned.



i can only assume there is more to the story, as in lots of bs coming from someone,

Oh here we go, Larry your not the guy at all to say ya or nay about a business, sorry to say


And far as us morons, stfu

Mabe if you actually knew about the hole thing you would shut your yap


We had rentals 23 sleds and 2 snow bikes, and storage ( which had a few all the time), plus rental gear, avy gear

The rentals were the most expensive in town per day (done on purpose to not under cut existing rental places)

 

[imdoo'n]

lol, { I can tell ya that in 3 months mountain park made 450000.00 before the fire sale started, for a brand new business just started in that business, thats un heard of ( in a good way with good profit)} and it still couldn't make a go of it? as i said more to the story, you got any back up on this $450,000 in less than 3 months? ha.

 

[mur190]

That's gross, but that was the first 3 months open, and first month was still 70% or less set up stuff still not none

That is impressive considering the location and so on... still sucks it couldn't continue on only had to head in there once was treated like a factory sponsored rider sled fixed in and out in less then a hour! Still have the T-Shirt.

 

[tex78]

lol, { I can tell ya that in 3 months mountain park made 450000.00 before the fire sale started, for a brand new business just started in that business, thats un heard of ( in a good way with good profit)} and it still couldn't make a go of it? as i said more to the story, you got any back up on this $450,000 in less than 3 months? ha.

Seen the sales before the close out sale started

There is more to the story for sure, what it is only one guy knows

But like I said, ultimately TOOOOOOOO big TOOOOOOO fast was the demise

 

[takethebounce]

The only dealer with the word "Bow" in it I would ever do business with is BowRidge.


Those other guys lost me as a customer a few Doo's ago. I won't even buy a jug of oil from them. I am never happy to see employees suffer because of bad management/ownership and I hope them focusing on one smaller location can improve their business but quite honestly I would rather drive the 160 km round trip to get anything OEM I need from Bowridge than the 30km to the South store.

 

[C of Red]

The only dealer with the word "Bow" in it I would ever do business with is BowRidge.


Those other guys lost me as a customer a few Doo's ago. I won't even buy a jug of oil from them. I am never happy to see employees suffer because of bad management/ownership and I hope them focusing on one smaller location can improve their business but quite honestly I would rather drive the 160 km round trip to get anything OEM I need from Bowridge than the 30km to the South store.

Its a different owner, but to each their own. Glad you enjoy driving.

Picked up the new low profile seat from Bow South this morning. Great bunch of guys.

 

[takethebounce]

Its a different owner, but to each their own. Glad you enjoy driving.

Picked up the new low profile seat from Bow South this morning. Great bunch of guys.

A different owner who shut down the north store and screwed Mountain Park. Sounds like a great business.


I doesn’t matter though. Whether it’s BowCycle, Blackfoot or BFD, the three main shops in Calgary are generally not great to deal with. ProAm at least has good people.

 

[venom]

I actually ended up purchasing a 19 sum x from now cycle south. Dave was awesome to deal with I must say. No complaints so far.