Be Friggin Careful

[imdoo'n]

AST 1 classroom training cost is a measly $175. if ya can't afford it ya should not be on a sled.



nov 27
pioneer lodge
45st- 47ave
red deer
9-5:30
lunch and bevies $20

as of nov 22, 4 listed as taking course. hmm should be at least another 10 that i know of
i signed up to take it again. it means that much to me.

if ya can't turn yer beacon on and find the hidden beacon ya can't ride with me.

 

[tex78]

Oh i can find it larry ........... I get the kids to hid it..... And find it.....

Oh and if i ride with ya u can't make it to the alpine anyways ..... So i guess i only need when i don't ride with ya...

 

[thunder44]

I was at the BRP Avy seminar last night in Prince George. I have my Ast 1 but I think it is good to go to these as you always learn something new and they are FREE. I also agree every year or so you should do a refresher. We practice beacon searchers everytime we go out. What I was shocked over last night was how many people had no Avy training what so ever. Good on them for attending the free seminar but............. I offered a free location and offered to set up a course for those people and out of 40 people I got 2 people interested. COME ON it's $300 and it could save yours or one of the people you ride withs life. Sorry for the rant but I find this very fustrating. Nobody ever wants this to happen to them but they don't want to get educated to lower there risks of being caught in an Avy.

 

[imdoo'n]

Oh i can find it larry ........... I get the kids to hid it..... And find it.....

Oh and if i ride with ya u can't make it to the alpine anyways ..... So i guess i only need when i don't ride with ya...

hmm tex ya need to go to the avi class. be safe

 

[lovinmclovin]

wow this guy is off the chain! i mean chit - if ya wanna b!tch and say ppl dont know what there doing thats your business. but in my opinnion MYOB. let ppl do what they want. just play it smart!

 

[underdog]

wow this guy is off the chain! i mean chit - if ya wanna b!tch and say ppl dont know what there doing thats your business. but in my opinnion MYOB. let ppl do what they want. just play it smart!

Great attitude to have. I applaud you.



Friggin hope I never see you on the hill.

sent from a phone

 

[fargineyesore]

Thanks Dad.

 

[fargineyesore]

Same to you.

 

[clarkydubs]

"respect your lack of knowledge more then you respect what you know"
if the avy report is considerable and up highmarking is totally out of the question, we got two spots around here where there is next to no avy danger on the way up and no avy danger when you get there.....
the AST 1 is important for sure, but ive seen it inspire confidence in people at the wrong times. if you dont know, dont go.....

 

[Bogger]

It is his business... it is all of our business.... the last thing our sport needs is more bad press, not sure if you've noticed but it's not like the sledding community is overwhelmed by outside support at the moment. The AST training is a tool that people can use to assess risk. is it the be all to end all? no? does it help you evaluate terrain and make better more informed decisions? YES... so by his "preaching" he is trying to help protect his own interests, making it his business...

People have been "doing what they want" for far too long and some have paid the ultimate price while giving the sport we all love a black eye....as a community we have help change the culture within

Just sayin...

wow this guy is off the chain! i mean chit - if ya wanna b!tch and say ppl dont know what there doing thats your business. but in my opinnion MYOB. let ppl do what they want. just play it smart!

 

[buck50]

40 inches at MID MOUNTAIN in 2 days----that's achit load of snow in a very short time----play safe

 

[buck50]

and that was as of 9:30 this morning, not sure if more has come down since!!!!!!

 

[imdoo'n]

lets have no more funnerals this year, let the snow settle and slide before hitting the steep area's.

 

[imdoo'n]

wow this guy is off the chain! i mean chit - if ya wanna b!tch and say ppl dont know what there doing thats your business. but in my opinnion MYOB. let ppl do what they want. just play it smart!

wow!!! some of your infinite wisdom i presume? you can do what you want, just realize your actions reflect on the rest of us. and no, avi training may not save you, but only you'll ever know when the white monster gobbles your sorry azz up. if ya don't like the post don't read it. otherwise nov 27 is the red deer training, i'll be there, will you?

 

[Modman]

lets have no more funnerals this year, let the snow settle and slide before hitting the steep area's.

Good luck with that bud. Until we stop babying one another nothing will change. Too many new riders who call themselves "experienced" with less than 10 ys under their belt and a new high powered sled to match, they are invincible because they are wearing a beacon and an air bag. They'd rather argue on the internet about who's keyboard is faster.

Its a tough conversation to have with people and very rarely does anyone ever want to look back on the bad times about what happened when we lose someone. The best threads on here are from people that swallowed their pride and will post up when they made a mistake, as a learning event for others. Some of the best avy discussions I heard were from people that attended the "Avy Conditions Review - Boulder Mountain Incident" held by Zac's in Calgary last season - told by real people from other incidents. Its only too bad the room didn't have a larger audience.................

Until we start analyzing the issues and what went wrong, no one else is going to learn from the tragic deaths of others. I've known 3 people personally who died while sledding - their deaths served as a live long lesson to many people - because of this I know they did not die in vain. Most people never want to admit what went wrong, its always someone or something else's fault, they just want the situation to go away asap by sweeping it under the rug because deep down, everyone knows mistakes were made.

People can call me callous, call me heartless, frankly I couldn't care less, just stay the fugg away from me on the mountain because if you are another one of these "experienced" sledders I keep hearing about, with a new sled and attitude to match, you are the most dangerous person on the snow to yourself and others.

 

[eclipse1966]

wow this guy is off the chain! i mean chit - if ya wanna b!tch and say ppl dont know what there doing thats your business. but in my opinnion MYOB. let ppl do what they want. just play it smart!

so how smart do you want me to be when your sorry ass is buried under a meter of snow and you only have me to rely on finding you with my beacon? time is everything and no practice = delay = death.

Sorry to be so blunt but this is nothing to take lightly.

 

[drew562]

I knew it all also. It's called inexperience. And compared to most of who I rode with I was the most paranoid about avy hazards. Then it happened. One popped and burried a friend of mine. 6 of us left to panic and search. Then we found are good friend and after 2.5 hrs cpr we realized He was gone and we were left wondering if we could have been faster. With up to date training. And knowing how to conveyer dig plus all the other stuff we know now. We think we would be way faster now. I did learn at 6' deep he stood little chance. But..... Please take your avy course before it happens not after like me and my friends. And also practice. Practice. And don't ride with those without any training. Imagine being burried and knowing your whole crew wasn't capable of finding you.....

 

[fargineyesore]

I knew it all also. It's called inexperience. And compared to most of who I rode with I was the most paranoid about avy hazards. Then it happened. One popped and burried a friend of mine. 6 of us left to panic and search. Then we found are good friend and after 2.5 hrs cpr we realized He was gone and we were left wondering if we could have been faster. With up to date training. And knowing how to conveyer dig plus all the other stuff we know now. We think we would be way faster now. I did learn at 6' deep he stood little chance. But..... Please take your avy course before it happens not after like me and my friends. And also practice. Practice. And don't ride with those without any training. Imagine being burried and knowing your whole crew wasn't capable of finding you.....

Thank you for this post.

 

[fargineyesore]

Good luck with that bud. Until we stop babying one another nothing will change. Too many new riders who call themselves "experienced" with less than 10 ys under their belt and a new high powered sled to match, they are invincible because they are wearing a beacon and an air bag. They'd rather argue on the internet about who's keyboard is faster.

Its a tough conversation to have with people and very rarely does anyone ever want to look back on the bad times about what happened when we lose someone. The best threads on here are from people that swallowed their pride and will post up when they made a mistake, as a learning event for others. Some of the best avy discussions I heard were from people that attended the "Avy Conditions Review - Boulder Mountain Incident" held by Zac's in Calgary last season - told by real people from other incidents. Its only too bad the room didn't have a larger audience.................

Until we start analyzing the issues and what went wrong, no one else is going to learn from the tragic deaths of others. I've known 3 people personally who died while sledding - their deaths served as a live long lesson to many people - because of this I know they did not die in vain. Most people never want to admit what went wrong, its always someone or something else's fault, they just want the situation to go away asap by sweeping it under the rug because deep down, everyone knows mistakes were made.

People can call me callous, call me heartless, frankly I couldn't care less, just stay the fugg away from me on the mountain because if you are another one of these "experienced" sledders I keep hearing about, with a new sled and attitude to match, you are the most dangerous person on the snow to yourself and others.

I agree this should be discussed, repeatedly. I always read the avalanche discussions on here, I've learned a lot from the more experienced riders who post. Just hope the discussion can stay positive.

 

[buck50]

another 6.5 inches over night--that makes close to 4 ft at MIDMOUNTAIN in the last 3 days, and 5 ft in the last week--can you imagine at the top

if you're going out, be extremely careful