Anyone running an Aerocharger on their Pro?

[NM]

Checking the HM kits out, I like the Vipec ECU idea...Hmmmmm, what kit to get? They all have their selling features, just have to decide how much to spend. It's a toss up between HM and Boost it right now...thanks guys, my brain is working over time lol

Thanks for the interest.
We are in the process of building a low boost kit and will be trying it in a couple weeks. We are trying some things never done before on any two stroke turbo kit and are really hoping that they work as planned.
The HM kit is a decent kit. We had one for 2 seasons and sold it to an awesome young lady that is loving it on her 2013 Pro.

One word of caution with the Aerocharger turbo though. We had a customer with an HM kit that had the turbo go down and HM will not warranty the turbo because it had our fuel system on it. The kit was bought from an HM distributor and is less than a year old. The fuel system was not the problem and they know it, but it gave them a reason to not warranty it. When you deal with a US company, you are always rolling the dice.
The Aero turbo's can be repaired, but only by Aerocharger, and can take weeks. You can get a garrett overnight and we keep plenty of them in stock.
A new Aerocharger turbo from a Aerocharger dealer in Edm. was 3500.00 and to order one from HM is 2500.00 US plus freight, duty, brokerage, etc. A Garrett centre section is between 1000.00 and 1400.00 depending on the turbo and anyone that can swing a wrench can change it.

Just more stuff to consider. Boondocker and Boost-It use actual Garrett turbo's.

The Vipec may work too, but not one customer can tell you how they work because nobody has one running yet. If you want to adjust it, then it's laptop only.

This is by no means a cut to what other companies are offering, but a bit of education never hurts.

I am not saying that the Aero turbo is a bad product, but we all know that if it was built by man, it's likely to fail eventually.

 

[NM]

Sorry about the lack of details on our website. Quite honestly we are way too busy to promote the turbo kits at this time. We really wanted to get the first 20 out the door and make sure they live up to our customers and our expectations. So far so good and if all continues to go well then we will ramp up this summer and build a bunch to prepare for next season.
Going forward, our turbo kits will only get better.

 

[BrosBeforeHos]

Thanks for the PM Neil. This is the kind of info I'm trying to obtain. Being as this would be my first turbo machine I'm trying to do as much research as possible. Thanks for the insight, I'm sure I'll be talking with you.

 

[E-Zmoke]

I'd like someone to post up some detailed pics of this kit. Boost-it website has nothing and other than a few shots of complete sleds, there is not really much out there on these kits other than guys saying these kits are the bomb. Not disputing that at all and if I had the coin, I'd be driving my sled to AB tomorrow but it would be nice to see some more detailed pics. Right now, I'm just waiting to put a deposit down on the entry level boost it kit .

You can check out my build here:

https://www.snowandmud.com/polaris-pro-ride-450/boosted-pro-poject-70930.html

I will update the build with some videos after Xmas

 

[Jake jenkins]

This is a pic of my boost it turbo , I will post a better one tomorrow

 

[CMB70]

Just wondering what the boost it turbo is worth compared to Boondocker or silber?

 

[Jake jenkins]

Boost it is 9000 installed , boondocker just air to air is around 7500 for just the kit plus install and silber you get what you pay for like 4600 for the kit plus install and you still have to tune it

 

[PolarisAssault91]

Boost it is 9000 installed , boondocker just air to air is around 7500 for just the kit plus install and silber you get what you pay for like 4600 for the kit plus install and you still have to tune it

Don't know where you got that, Paid 6200 taxes in on my BD intercooled kit got all the works(clutching,vents,etc..) as long as you know how to use basic shop tools should be capable of installing yourself. Whichever kit you decide on will be a blast either way

 

[CMB70]

Don't know where you got that, Paid 6200 taxes in on my BD intercooled kit got all the works(clutching,vents,etc..) as long as you know how to use basic shop tools should be capable of installing yourself. Whichever kit you decide on will be a blast either way

I will definately install myself, I have talked to BD but was wondering what the other kits cost. I will wait til Feb to install something and trying to get all the info I can get. I wonder what kind of power the BD makes with pump gas.

 

[Aerocharger_jerry]

We need to correct some of Neil's facts again.

We had a customer with an HM kit that had the turbo go down and HM will not warranty the turbo because it had our fuel system on it.

Warranties for the turbo are handled directly through Aerocharger should the need arise, not HM, and the fuel system is unimportant regarding what would qualify. Whether the system is running the Boondocker, Vi-PEC, Dobeck, Power Commander, Boost-it, or any other auxiliary injector driver, it is all the same as far as the warranty is concerned.

However, FOD (Foreign Object Damage) repairs, usually when a piston breaks and the turbo is damaged from engine debris, occur not because of the turbo, but directly as a result of poor fueling. That is why these repairs are not covered under the Aerocharger warranty - Aerocharger and other kit builders are not liable for engine damage caused by problems with third-party fueling.

The Aero turbo's can be repaired, but only by Aerocharger, and can take weeks. You can get a garrett overnight and we keep plenty of them in stock.
A new Aerocharger turbo from a Aerocharger dealer in Edm. was 3500.00 and to order one from HM is 2500.00 US plus freight, duty, brokerage, etc. A Garrett centre section is between 1000.00 and 1400.00 depending on the turbo and anyone that can swing a wrench can change it.

Systems produced by Aerocharger are covered by a 50% off service warranty for the first three years for all repairs, including piston damage. Service on our systems is rarely required and you will typically have it back within a week. Repairs usually run $90-$580 - apparently much less than a new Garrett center from Neil. Visit for accurate information.

When you deal with a US company, you are always rolling the dice.

You're going to hear this a lot from Neil, and it's a pretty weird statement. Aerocharger does a lot of business in Canada, and we happen to like our neighbors - Canada has great riding, great hunting, and great people who are as enthusiastic about sledding as we are.

 

[NM]

We need to correct some of Neil's facts again.



Warranties for the turbo are handled directly through Aerocharger should the need arise, not HM, and the fuel system is unimportant regarding what would qualify. Whether the system is running the Boondocker, Vi-PEC, Dobeck, Power Commander, Boost-it, or any other auxiliary injector driver, it is all the same as far as the warranty is concerned.

However, FOD (Foreign Object Damage) repairs, usually when a piston breaks and the turbo is damaged from engine debris, occur not because of the turbo, but directly as a result of poor fueling. That is why these repairs are not covered under the Aerocharger warranty - Aerocharger and other kit builders are not liable for engine damage caused by problems with third-party fueling.



Systems produced by Aerocharger are covered by a 50% off service warranty for the first three years for all repairs, including piston damage. Service on our systems is rarely required and you will typically have it back within a week. Repairs usually run $90-$580 - apparently much less than a new Garrett center from Neil. Visit for accurate information.



You're going to hear this a lot from Neil, and it's a pretty weird statement. Aerocharger does a lot of business in Canada, and we happen to like our neighbors - Canada has great riding, great hunting, and great people who are as enthusiastic about sledding as we are.

Just an FYI Jerry, the turbo in question was never on a sled that had the motor go down. The motor is fine.

If you guys decide who and who doesn't get warranty, then maybe you should be talking to HM about this case.

If dealing in the US was as easy as you make it sound, then we would still be dealing there. We had ordered 4 turbo kits from Aerocharger last fall and they were more than 5 weeks behind promise date. Finally 3 of the customers went a different direction and the etech kit I ordered finally showed up but I paid full retail because I only bought one kit, which as luck would have it...that was the last one I will ever buy.

I sell many many fuel kits to Aero and HM customers and now they can finally ride and are happy. You guys should be thanking me for helping your customers.

I know Brad is probably a bit hurt because i wouldn't sell him a fuel kit, but that is business. had I been able to buy from Aerocharger at a reasonable rate and had the product delivered on time, I'm sure we would have worked something out.

I am certainly not trying to steal any of your business, as we can't keep up with demand already, so I have no reason to persuade anyone differently. I just wanted to make people aware of what is going on out there so they can make an informed decision.
When I mentioned dealing with US companies can be a gamble, I was reffering to all US companies, as some of them have left a poor taste in peoples mouths.

Once again, I'm not trying to hurt your business...so sell away.

 

[Sledpiggy]

Thanks for the interest.
We are in the process of building a low boost kit and will be trying it in a couple weeks. We are trying some things never done before on any two stroke turbo kit and are really hoping that they work as planned.
The HM kit is a decent kit. We had one for 2 seasons and sold it to an awesome young lady that is loving it on her 2013 Pro.

One word of caution with the Aerocharger turbo though. We had a customer with an HM kit that had the turbo go down and HM will not warranty the turbo because it had our fuel system on it. The kit was bought from an HM distributor and is less than a year old. The fuel system was not the problem and they know it, but it gave them a reason to not warranty it. When you deal with a US company, you are always rolling the dice.
The Aero turbo's can be repaired, but only by Aerocharger, and can take weeks. You can get a garrett overnight and we keep plenty of them in stock.
A new Aerocharger turbo from a Aerocharger dealer in Edm. was 3500.00 and to order one from HM is 2500.00 US plus freight, duty, brokerage, etc. A Garrett centre section is between 1000.00 and 1400.00 depending on the turbo and anyone that can swing a wrench can change it.

Just more stuff to consider. Boondocker and Boost-It use actual Garrett turbo's.

The Vipec may work too, but not one customer can tell you how they work because nobody has one running yet. If you want to adjust it, then it's laptop only.

This is by no means a cut to what other companies are offering, but a bit of education never hurts.

I am not saying that the Aero turbo is a bad product, but we all know that if it was built by man, it's likely to fail eventually.

Yes, I freakin' LOVE it and thanks to Neil who is always there to answer my questions and put up with my 'I freakin' LOVE this sled!!' texts... LOL. I am really glad I made the decision to buy this set up from him and would encourage anyone else to contact Neil if they want a great running set up.

 

[BrosBeforeHos]

Neil is putting together a low boost kit for around 5800 and 1000 to install. He's going to run it a couple weekends and then post dates when and where a guy can get some time on the seat.

 

[NM]

Neil is putting together a low boost kit for around 5800 and 1000 to install. He's going to run it a couple weekends and then post dates when and where a guy can get some time on the seat.

Just finished it. We are calling it a low boost kit, but are using the same 2863gtx turbo that we use in our HO kit. That way upgrading to the water to air system will get you the same kit.

 

[backchannel]

Just finished it. We are calling it a low boost kit, but are using the same 2863gtx turbo that we use in our HO kit. That way upgrading to the water to air system will get you the same kit.

What comparison on logged iat's with air to air vs water to air? Higher boost show more difference?

 

[andrew3399]

I really like turbo builders!! Whether its aero or silber or nm there is always a pissing match going on between them. And yet only silber gets called out on this behaviour. Oh well love the drama anyway!

 

[JCasino]

Just finished it. We are calling it a low boost kit, but are using the same 2863gtx turbo that we use in our HO kit. That way upgrading to the water to air system will get you the same kit.

Neil - are you going to have to wait until next season to purchase this kit or will you have some available this season? I want to put one on my 12.

 

[BrosBeforeHos]

Just wondering how often one might be doing pistons with these turbos installed. Heard guys say they are replacing them every couple seasons. Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[NM]

What comparison on logged iat's with air to air vs water to air? Higher boost show more difference?

We don't have any seat time on the non intercooled setup yet, but it is designed to be run at low boost (5-6 lbs) and will not come with a boost controller. The wastegate rod will be fixed.
The sled does not even have any gauges and by looking at it you would not know it has a turbo on it.

The fact that we use a large unrestricted intake and a high flowing turbo will make the charge temps reasonable at low boost.

Here is a pic of the low booster. This kit is very clean and the install takes about half the time of our intercooled kit.

 

[NM]

There is a chance we will have a low number available by mid Feb or so. We are in no hurry to rush this out the door and really want to log some miles first. I am going to give it to a bunch of different people to ride so we can get a good cross section of feedback. Everyone rides a bit different, so this will tell us if we hit our target.
The intention is to have a true pull the rope and go setup that really never needs tuning.