Alberta Budget ?

[pfi572]

Good on Toews for cleaning up the spending .
Just listened to CBC grilling him on “why not a sales tax”.
Like he said ? Gov has a spending problem and doesn’t need to add more tax’s .


https://www.facebook.com/cbcedmonton/videos/557783118373435?sfns=mo

 

[AreWeThereYet]

Good on Toews for cleaning up the spending .
Just listened to CBC grilling him on “why not a sales tax”.
Like he said ? Gov has a spending problem and doesn’t need to add more tax’s .


https://www.facebook.com/cbcedmonton/videos/557783118373435?sfns=mo

In bold,.. typical lieberal statement right there.

 

[gunner3006]

Thank you Notley. Killed our province. Ran up our dept.

 

[papajake]

thank you KENNY the hard working ALBERTAINS have had enough of unions,snivelling over paid government workers most Albertains have taken a big pay cut because of the economy and all you want is a big fat raise and make us pay for it with money we don't have because of high taxes between you assholes and over spending cities like calgary and edmonton the money has to stop seen a job posting for a city of calgary for a library assistant 28.00 a hour holy **** some mechanic would like that wage in the private sector

 

[maxwell]

i love watching Don ivesnon cry like a little baby. Kenny just took his soother away and now he has to act like a big boy and spend money responsibly and cut all the BullSht programs hes got on the go. for example this multi million dollar apocalyptic website that tells everyone they are going to die. https://changeforclimate.ca

 

[skegpro]

i love watching Don ivesnon cry like a little baby. Kenny just took his soother away and now he has to act like a big boy and spend money responsibly and cut all the BullSht programs hes got on the go. for example this multi million dollar apocalyptic website that tells everyone they are going to die. https://changeforclimate.ca

I thought he was gonna produce some real tears yesterday.

Edmonton and Calgary are outta control.
Property taxes in Calgary are unreal.

 

[retiredpop]

Nenshi is no different. He's always complaining about having to reign in spending.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calg...budget-cuts-provincial-property-tax-1.5334715

 

[snochuk]

2 out of 5 people in this province are govt employees, that is just totally retarded.
The cuts needed to be deeper and there is a lot of privatization required.
It takes the taxes of two private citizens to pay for one govt employee wages and then the pension.
Do the math, at least a 25%trimming is needed - it is a very rapid down hill slide with out major cash injection from resources and not just oil and gas.
Privatization is needed badly or else some govt workers need to start to put out and get away from the coffee pot hangout.

Sorry but teachers, fire dept and maintenance workers do not need to be govt workers - should be the first targets.
The govt is just so terribly inefficient with collection and distribution of our tax dollars.
The waste needs to be corrected.
These are easily be run by privatized systems.
About half of the medical field should be next -partly but also beyond doctors and nurses.
Jobs are relocated to private sector- not necessarily lost nor are benefits.
Private sector plans very close, yes there is that much waste in anything the gvt touches.
Regardless of PC, NDP, Liberal.

 

[Cat401]

Maybe if Mayor Donnie should stop spending the majority of Edmonton's infrastructure money on the money losing LRT, then he wouldn't have to rely on the province repair all the other areas of neglect?

 

[Cat401]

2 out of 5 people in this province are govt employees, that is just totally retarded.
The cuts needed to be deeper and there is a lot of privatization required.
It takes the taxes of two private citizens to pay for one govt employee wages and then the pension.
Do the math, at least a 25%trimming is needed - it is a very rapid down hill slide with out major cash injection from resources and not just oil and gas.
Privatization is needed badly or else some govt workers need to start to put out and get away from the coffee pot hangout.

Sorry but teachers, fire dept and maintenance workers do not need to be govt workers - should be the first targets.
The govt is just so terribly inefficient with collection and distribution of our tax dollars.
The waste needs to be corrected.
These are easily be run by privatized systems.
About half of the medical field should be next -partly but also beyond doctors and nurses.
Jobs are relocated to private sector- not necessarily lost nor are benefits.
Private sector plans very close, yes there is that much waste in anything the gvt touches.
Regardless of PC, NDP, Liberal.

didn't govt jobs increase like, 12,000 more employees under Notley's NDP?

 

[Cdnfireman]

2 out of 5 people in this province are govt employees, that is just totally retarded.
The cuts needed to be deeper and there is a lot of privatization required.
It takes the taxes of two private citizens to pay for one govt employee wages and then the pension.
Do the math, at least a 25%trimming is needed - it is a very rapid down hill slide with out major cash injection from resources and not just oil and gas.
Privatization is needed badly or else some govt workers need to start to put out and get away from the coffee pot hangout.

Sorry but teachers, fire dept and maintenance workers do not need to be govt workers - should be the first targets.
The govt is just so terribly inefficient with collection and distribution of our tax dollars.
The waste needs to be corrected.
These are easily be run by privatized systems.
About half of the medical field should be next -partly but also beyond doctors and nurses.
Jobs are relocated to private sector- not necessarily lost nor are benefits.
Private sector plans very close, yes there is that much waste in anything the gvt touches.
Regardless of PC, NDP, Liberal.

remember back a few years ago, the patch was booming, mega overtime, charge out rates for equipment was sky high because there wasn’t enough to go around.... everyone was rolling in dough, new trucks, new toys, new RV, save for a rainy day??? NAAAAAHHH!!! No need! Did anyone give a rats a$$ about government workers or what they got paid then? Nope!
then notley and Trudeau come along and screw it all up.
it wasn’t the government workers who caused the bust. Just like it wasn’t every other bust cycle after the boom that’s happened over the past decades. Remember the old bumper stickers that prayed for another boom and that if it came, I wouldn’t pi$$ it all away again?
is there waste in the government? Yup. Will government workers lose their jobs to balance the budget. Yup. Will it make any oil patch workers that didn’t plan and overextended themselves rich again? Nope.
The resource economy in Alberta is cyclical. Always has been, for many reasons. Well run businesses and smart employees plan ahead, diversify their skills, resources and education, save money and expend their assets sensibly in good times and bad. That’s how they get through the lean times.

 

[snochuk]

didn't govt jobs increase like, 12,000 more employees under Notley's NDP?

Hahaha nope.
Was more than that per year on average.

 

[snochuk]

remember back a few years ago, the patch was booming, mega overtime, charge out rates for equipment was sky high because there wasn’t enough to go around.... everyone was rolling in dough, new trucks, new toys, new RV, save for a rainy day??? NAAAAAHHH!!! No need! Did anyone give a rats a$$ about government workers or what they got paid then? Nope!
then notley and Trudeau come along and screw it all up.
it wasn’t the government workers who caused the bust. Just like it wasn’t every other bust cycle after the boom that’s happened over the past decades. Remember the old bumper stickers that prayed for another boom and that if it came, I wouldn’t pi$$ it all away again?
is there waste in the government? Yup. Will government workers lose their jobs to balance the budget. Yup. Will it make any oil patch workers that didn’t plan and overextended themselves rich again? Nope.
The resource economy in Alberta is cyclical. Always has been, for many reasons. Well run businesses and smart employees plan ahead, diversify their skills, resources and education, save money and expend their assets sensibly in good times and bad. That’s how they get through the lean times.

That is a nice storey and pretty much every one I know is far from broke.

There are just as many govt employees that can not plan two days ahead.

That has nothing to do with the volume of govt employees in this province compared to others
This has always been an issue that could be covered but between Notely creating the biggest depth in Alberta history in only 4 years and a wing nut in Ottawa trying to kill our economy the excess fat is really starting to show.
Who is supposed to pay for the debt service of 5 mill a day of which not head created over 4.
There has to be a correction now for those irresponsible 4 years.
Govt employee taxes do not add to the economy or to the tax base pool. They are 100% carried by others, private sector taxes and royalty revenue. This is a fact that all socialists and govt employees struggle with.
A 2:5 ratio is irrisponsible and impossible to manage.
A reduction in that ratio is a huge item in either good or bad times.

 

[teamgreen]

2 out of 5 people in this province are govt employees, that is just totally retarded.
The cuts needed to be deeper and there is a lot of privatization required.
It takes the taxes of two private citizens to pay for one govt employee wages and then the pension.
Do the math, at least a 25%trimming is needed - it is a very rapid down hill slide with out major cash injection from resources and not just oil and gas.
Privatization is needed badly or else some govt workers need to start to put out and get away from the coffee pot hangout.

Sorry but teachers, fire dept and maintenance workers do not need to be govt workers - should be the first targets.
The govt is just so terribly inefficient with collection and distribution of our tax dollars.
The waste needs to be corrected.
These are easily be run by privatized systems.
About half of the medical field should be next -partly but also beyond doctors and nurses.
Jobs are relocated to private sector- not necessarily lost nor are benefits.
Private sector plans very close, yes there is that much waste in anything the gvt touches.
Regardless of PC, NDP, Liberal.

Firefighters are municipal government workers. If you have an issue with them, feel free to show up to a meeting at your local city hall.

I'm all for privatization. Bunch of oil and gas workers workers who wouldn't pay for the service and then light their house on fire. I think it would be hilarious having a fire truck parked outside your house spraying water on the neighbours house and not yours because they paid the premium and you didn't. Would also like to see a family member take a tumble off a ladder while putting up Christmas lights and the fire truck standing on the lawn with a debit card reader waiting to have your card billed prior to giving any medical care.


The issue here is our political leaders. Im not blaming the NDP, Im blaming every leader since I was a kid. Klein cut all spending and than gave any money back to Albertans(Kleinbucks) instead of investing in back in services. Redford flying herself and family all over the place while building a premiers suite. The heritage trust fund being drained and not taxing people to maintain it. The NDP for spending money they didn't have. Its time for a true centrist party to run this province and country.

If you want to separate Alberta, or all the west, from the rest of the country feel free to make recommendations on a currency to use, what will replace universal healthcare, and what will fill the role of the CPP.

 

[doorfx]

How would we pay off our debt , in order to separate? Do we think the entities holding the paper are going to just forgive our debt?

 

[catalac]

Alberta doesn’t have a revenue problem it has a spending problem, no sales tax required. Best reply I’ve heard from a politician in some time. Good for Toews, cleaning up redford and Notleys mess a tall order.

 

[gunner3006]

Firefighters are municipal government workers. If you have an issue with them, feel free to show up to a meeting at your local city hall.

I'm all for privatization. Bunch of oil and gas workers workers who wouldn't pay for the service and then light their house on fire. I think it would be hilarious having a fire truck parked outside your house spraying water on the neighbours house and not yours because they paid the premium and you didn't. Would also like to see a family member take a tumble off a ladder while putting up Christmas lights and the fire truck standing on the lawn with a debit card reader waiting to have your card billed prior to giving any medical care.

Why not both. If you want private, get out your cheque book. Need that hip replaced now rather than 10 years ago? Well maybe you don’t snowbird this year and you stay home and pay 30 gerrrrrr.

 

[snochuk]

Firefighters are municipal government workers. If you have an issue with them, feel free to show up to a meeting at your local city hall.

I'm all for privatization. Bunch of oil and gas workers workers who wouldn't pay for the service and then light their house on fire. I think it would be hilarious having a fire truck parked outside your house spraying water on the neighbours house and not yours because they paid the premium and you didn't. Would also like to see a family member take a tumble off a ladder while putting up Christmas lights and the fire truck standing on the lawn with a debit card reader waiting to have your card billed prior to giving any medical care.


The issue here is our political leaders. Im not blaming the NDP, Im blaming every leader since I was a kid. Klein cut all spending and than gave any money back to Albertans(Kleinbucks) instead of investing in back in services. Redford flying herself and family all over the place while building a premiers suite. The heritage trust fund being drained and not taxing people to maintain it. The NDP for spending money they didn't have. Its time for a true centrist party to run this province and country.

If you want to separate Alberta, or all the west, from the rest of the country feel free to make recommendations on a currency to use, what will replace universal healthcare, and what will fill the role of the CPP.

Wow
Where did I suggest what your replied to.
The mojority of what is controlled by the AUPE can easily be contracted out to standards set by the gornament.
This eliminates user fees.
Universal medical care should never be completely disband and private clinics are already here.
I paid $600 and had my cancer biopsies done in two weeks instead of the 6 month wait I was booked in for.
The gross waste and inneficiences are not that hard to fix with moderation.
AUPE members seem to have a feeling it is their right to be catered to and paid for by the rest of the province and the provinces revenue with zero accountability or else they strike and make demands while witholding partial essentials services.
Something contracted workforce can not do once the contract is set.
The biggest issue to fix is the attitudes out there that some people are more special than others.
The spending problem needs to be correct and a 2:5 ratio of public servants is not sustainable as previously discibbed.

Just have to realize where money comes from and that is new money to distribute through the economy.
This can and only does come from private sector and sales revenue.
The govt does not supply squat, they collect and redistribute.
This includes ALL govt employees.

Just remember that before a govt employee pays taxes they must be paid first. (Govt employee taxes are from money the govt already had - only the private sector and revenue from all types of resources can put new money in the pot/economy).
Govt employees and govt projects only recirculated what was already there, they create zero new dollars for that circulation to continue - remember that.
Where do people think that money came from FFS.
The 3 of 5 can not support the 2 of 5. Sorry but the math just does not allow it.
The first step is to understand where money to support the economy comes from and it sure as hell is not from any type or level of government.
The trick is to provide actual need services and not fluff programs and the most economical means to supply those services.
To this end serious change is needed.

 

[FastFarmer]

Wow
Where did I suggest what your replied to.
The mojority of what is controlled by the AUPE can easily be contracted out to standards set by the gornament.
This eliminates user fees.
Universal medical care should never be completely disband and private clinics are already here.
I paid $600 and had my cancer biopsies done in two weeks instead of the 6 month wait I was booked in for.
The gross waste and inneficiences are not that hard to fix with moderation.
AUPE members seem to have a feeling it is their right to be catered to and paid for by the rest of the province and the provinces revenue with zero accountability or else they strike and make demands while witholding partial essentials services.
Something contracted workforce can not do once the contract is set.
The biggest issue to fix is the attitudes out there that some people are more special than others.
The spending problem needs to be correct and a 2:5 ratio of public servants is not sustainable as previously discibbed.

Just have to realize where money comes from and that is new money to distribute through the economy.
This can and only does come from private sector and sales revenue.
The govt does not supply squat, they collect and redistribute.
This includes ALL govt employees.

Just remember that before a govt employee pays taxes they must be paid first. (Govt employee taxes are from money the govt already had - only the private sector and revenue from all types of resources can put new money in the pot)
Where do people think that money came from FFS.
The 3 of 5 can not support the 2 of 5. Sorry but the math just does not allow it.
The first step is to understand where money to support the economy comes from and it sure as hell is not from any type or level of government.
The trick is to provide actual need services and not fluff programs and the most economical means to supply those services.
To this end serious change is needed.

Well Said.

 

[lilduke]

Health care is the province’s largest expense, making up 43 per cent of total operating costs. With Budget 2019, the province is increasing the health-care budget by $200 million, bringing overall operating spending to $20.6 billion per year.



43% of the budget goes to our ****ty health care system. With 43% of my tax money back I could pay for some really good health care I think.

Id be 100% fine with ditching the universal healthcare. You get terrible service, and costs it way too much.