250f vs 450f?
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Stg2Suby
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Bruderheim requires good power with the deep sand, if I had to ride a 4 stroke it would be a 450. Unless you're just riding the single track and hardpack trails.
S.W.A.T.
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Had this same dilemma this spring and went 250F. Many of the guys i ride with have 450's and in the bottom end not a ton of difference but they also complain that the 450's dont like to putter around trail riding as the get too hot.
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How much do you weigh? Those are my same thoughts, I dnt get up to speed in 4th gear WOT doing trails too often
Sigh. The sad part is 450s are same price as 250s.
Still not sure what I am going to do
Will you be riding single track in big hills or more quad trail with the odd hill? Big hill ST isn’t great on a 450 because it has so much power and doesn’t give a lot of time to hesitate before it stalls. And they get hot. 250f is similar but more forgiving because it won’t loop out as easy. 350f is the sweet spot in the middle but it makes it’s best power at higher RPMs so lugging real low RPM is a bit of a challenge.
I ride this type of terrain and switched to enduro 2 stroke eight years ago and will never go back. The modern (2013+) 2 stroke enduro bikes have very smooth linear power and lug way down low so are very forgiving. They’re also light weight and don’t get as hot.
If you’re more into quad trails or smaller hills the 450 would be a blast. Just gotta hang on!
I ride this type of terrain and switched to enduro 2 stroke eight years ago and will never go back. The modern (2013+) 2 stroke enduro bikes have very smooth linear power and lug way down low so are very forgiving. They’re also light weight and don’t get as hot.
If you’re more into quad trails or smaller hills the 450 would be a blast. Just gotta hang on!
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mclean
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Yup, that's what I'd get
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Always thought gasgas was a chinese Gio. Did not know KTM owns them and husq till today. Very interesting......350f seems to be leading the charge now
mclean
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They are really nice bikes. Usually have all the high end components too. They use to anyway.
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If you’re riding heavy sand and open trails 450f track bike would be great
Tighter trails the 250f would be fine
350f is the perfect size for most people
If you’re mostly trails that aren’t wide open don’t get a track bike, they suck in tight trees and you’ll just roast your clutch and get tired. Get something with lower and wider gear range like XCF-W, you’ll have way more fun
I’m over 300lbs, ride a ktm 500 exc, and borrowed both a 350f and 250f from a buddy and had no problems anywhere and a lot of fun
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Tighter trails the 250f would be fine
350f is the perfect size for most people
If you’re mostly trails that aren’t wide open don’t get a track bike, they suck in tight trees and you’ll just roast your clutch and get tired. Get something with lower and wider gear range like XCF-W, you’ll have way more fun
I’m over 300lbs, ride a ktm 500 exc, and borrowed both a 350f and 250f from a buddy and had no problems anywhere and a lot of fun
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S.W.A.T.
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Typically around the 200lb, sometime more but rarely less lol. Ive been doing lots of trails with the wife and unless I really feel the need I live in 2nd and 3rd gears. Lots of bike there. Haven't ridden much track but have been hoping to get out while up in SL.How much do you weigh? Those are my same thoughts, I dnt get up to speed in 4th gear WOT doing trails too often
Sigh. The sad part is 450s are same price as 250s.
Still not sure what I am going to do
Yes the 250 and 450 are pretty close in price, i don't know how much of a difference it would be on the rebuild when it gets to that point but if thats the concern look for a 2 stroke.
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If you can get a 450 for the price of a 250, then it’s a no brainer!! You can change your front and rear sprockets to do whatever you want.How much do you weigh? Those are my same thoughts, I dnt get up to speed in 4th gear WOT doing trails too often
Sigh. The sad part is 450s are same price as 250s.
Still not sure what I am going to do
Another bike that’s been around for a long time is a Suzuki DR 400. Very reliable and a good range of power.
Lem Lamb
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Yuppers,,, the 4 stokers are a tad heavier,,, 2 stokes seem too zip along pretty fast in the grit...
Waaaaay easier too throw around,,, they come out of the corners and whoops pretty fast...
Find the bike that works for your needs and wants and giver...
Good times for sure
Waaaaay easier too throw around,,, they come out of the corners and whoops pretty fast...
Find the bike that works for your needs and wants and giver...
Good times for sure
S.W.A.T.
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Got my first look at some different bikes and how they handle on the track this weekend. I have to say unless you have the ability to control that beast there isn't much need for a 450. 4 strokes definitely out paced the 2 strokes. How much of it was ability among the riders I can't comment as I don't know any of them, only what I saw.
I guess a deciding factor would be get out with some friends that have bikes of different styles and see what best suits you and what your looking for.
I guess a deciding factor would be get out with some friends that have bikes of different styles and see what best suits you and what your looking for.
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I think if funds allow I'm going to get a 350.
My friend is the manager at riverside honda, going to talk to him on days off and see if he has anything I might want
Lem Lamb
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No no no...
Cr 500 with long swing arm
We only send the best too the top of the hills...
Lol
Cr 500 with long swing arm
We only send the best too the top of the hills...
Lol
mclean
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I've seen a couple street legal cr500s.
YES PLEASE
YES PLEASE
Lem Lamb
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Oh yha...
Send it...
Send it...
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