2019/2020 Mcbride Conditions and Updates

[Bnorth]

If there is yearly grooming bitchin, then that indicates there is a problem with grooming. How bout fixing the problem to eliminate bitchin? The problem needs to be fixed. If current peeps can’t fix it, find somebody that can.

It’s like having a ski resort that only grooms once a weekend. Skiers will go elsewhere. Especially when there is another well groomed ski resort close by(think Valemount).

If Valemount has better grooming, sledders are going there. It’s not rocket science. Groom more, attract more sledders. Groom less, attract less sledders. Sledders keep these sled destination towns alive so if you treat sledders to crappy trails, the sledders go else where. Roll out the groomed red carpet for sledders and prosper.

The Mcbride sled club essentially controls the town winter economy. Low sled numbers, low Mcbride economy. If the club drops the grooming ball, less hotel usage, less restaurant customers etc etc. That’s a big load to carry so don’t let the community down.

Notice how Valemount is currently advertising grooming this week info after the Mcbride whooped out trail complaints? How delicious for those who paid 25 bones to suffer for 25kms Sunday morning at Renshaw. That’s a dollar/km of pain.

If ya gotta groom 2x/ day then do it. Advertise when trails are groomed, in real time and sledders will go there.

If there’s not enough money, raise some. Watch what Valemount does and copy it.

Notice the new buildings in Vale vs Mcbride. Vale is killin’ it and Mcbride is stale.

Y’all need to stop with the excuses for this non grooming nonsense. It will never change if it’s accepted by the masses. Ya, feels are gonna be damaged. Too bad.

If the club can’t do it, find someone who can. Simple.

Hire a an Alberta/Saskatchewan farmer to operate/maintain the groomer who also sleds. Dude will think he died and went to heaven. Work a deal with bell mountain cabins or similar motel for a free kitchennette suite for the farmer. Promote the motel on social media like crazy and fill it up for the owners. The operator is gonna load the groomer on a truck, haul it to each area and groom 14hrs/day. Finish one and go to the next one. Rinse and repeat. He is responsible for all maintenance in the groomer and truck. Pay the man by contract for less paperwork for the club. All good. Stop making excuses.

If it’s contracted grooming, get rid of the contractor and get one that will do the job better, cheaper and be on call 24/7. With monopoly situations, contractors often get too comfortable with the secure contracts and stop producing. Simply put out a Canada wide invitation to tender for immediate grooming and Mcbride club will see some pep in the step of the current contractor. Now the club has cheaper and better grooming options.

There’s many hurting ski hills who wanna keep there good operators and have machines sitting. They’d love to have work for their groomers and good operators.

Give the boys a reason to turn right from Jasper, not left to Valemount. Or just leave it and hope it fixes itself. Whatevs. It’s up to Mcbride. Mcbride has all of December to attract all of the sledders from bc and Alberta. Organize the grooming cuz the Sledders are coming. Show the sled community what Mcbride can do.

I’m gonna catch **** from all the excuse makers and it’s all good. Someone’s gotta point out the obvious.

This is the dumbest **** I've read today and I've dealt with some stupid fawkin emails already too. KD you think the club has a money tree? You're proposing Revy level grooming for a club a tiny fraction of the size.

 

[pipes]

Not chitting on the groomer operator at all. Renshaw wasn’t groomed on Sunday. What do want me to do? Ignore it like it didn’t happen? I never said one thing about the quality of grooming. Which, now you mention it, I did notice the quality of grooming was great. I said the amount of grooming is not enough, it’s the #1 complaint about Mcbride and it hurts the ridership. This weekend coming up can be a redemption weekend for the club.

Yes, I’ve been there once and all one has to do is search the internet for the grooming complaints from Mcbride. Sledders talk about the whooped out trails, not the great area. It should be the other way around.

Whoever is making the grooming decisions needs to step it up.

The excuses are no money, too much traffic, snow not just right to groom, it’s hard to find operators, a sled might crash into the groomer, groom after 100 sleds blah blah blah. I’ve never heard so many excuses.

After all the smoke is cleared, rain, shine, no grooming or tornado there is always a trail fee attendant with their hand out collecting money. Funny how that works. Groom dat chit man. Run up and down the trail all day if ya have to. It’s not hard. The moneys there now. Lotsa trail fees. Hotels and staging areas were full for two days. No excuses now. Let’s get it.

This coming from a person that obviously hasn't a clue of what it takes to groom a trail. If you feel that its that easy and that lucrative, why don't you buck up and buy a groomer and show us how it's done. Oh BTW the stock clutching on a BR400 is spot on so you wont have to waste any time dialing it in, you can get right to grooming and making the community rich.

 

[kanedog]

This coming from a person that obviously hasn't a clue of what it takes to groom a trail. If you feel that its that easy and that lucrative, why don't you buck up and buy a groomer and show us how it's done. Oh BTW the stock clutching on a BR400 is spot on so you wont have to waste any time dialing it in, you can get right to grooming and making the community rich.

I own a d6 bulldozer and other equipment. I know exactly what it takes to run equipment. Heck, promise me a ten year grooming contract and I’ll go buy a groomer tommoro. But that’s not the issue. It’s the lack of grooming. But whatevs.

Some people get all weird when faced with the truth. Man up and take the criticism and do something with it. Attempting to turn it around on me makes you feel good right now but does nothing about the problem. Don’t blame me, ask questions of the decision makers in the club.

Ask questions. Observe. How many memberships were sold? How much is the debt? How much cash on hand? How much are the monthly fixed costs? How much per hour is the groomer? Who makes the grooming decisions? How many hands does the trail fee cash pass through b4 the bank deposit? What checks and balances are in place to prevent theft? Eventually, you will find where the problem lies. Yea, it stings but ya gotta ask the tough questions or things will never change.

Btw, I started my business in 1991. I know full well how a business works so save your breath.

 

[Ballzdeep]

quit feeding the homeless dog. KD derailing another thread. I'm heading to Renshaw Friday morning...groomed or not my fav place to ride. any updated pics from yesterday or today? Been over a dozen times and never been to spirit or had a blue bird, fingers crossed this weekend! back on track, So hows the pow?

 

[pipes]

quit feeding the homeless dog. KD derailing another thread. I'm heading to Renshaw Friday morning...groomed or not my fav place to ride. any updated pics from yesterday or today? Been over a dozen times and never been to spirit or had a blue bird, fingers crossed this weekend! back on track, So hows the pow?

Sorry, I'll stop feeding the dog. The Renshaw is still my favourite spot. Been there countles times and had both "Blue Bird" and "Socked In" and even both in the same day. I've never made back to Spirit either. Hope you have a great ride. Keep the shiny side up and ride safe.

 

[Alex Hokanson]

renshaw on monday dec 9/19.excellent grooming monday.sunday hurt tho

 

[snochuk]

quit feeding the homeless dog. KD derailing another thread. I'm heading to Renshaw Friday morning...groomed or not my fav place to ride. any updated pics from yesterday or today? Been over a dozen times and never been to spirit or had a blue bird, fingers crossed this weekend! back on track, So hows the pow?

We will be there to ride Renshaw Saturday morning.
Just 2 of us so contact me if you want to join in.



Been riding Renshaw since before there was a cabin and regular grooming.
People need to get over it and enjoy the area.
Slow down when whooped out and take a couple breaks.
If sledding a rough trail once in a while stresses people out........better find an enjoyable hobby and back away from sledding.
If people feel they just wasted $25, take a real step back, look at your sled and rig.
Yup they are crying over elite first world spilled milk.

Renshaw regulars know the norm for grooming is pretty dam good.

 

[Ballzdeep]

We will be there to ride Renshaw Saturday morning.
Just 2 of us so contact me if you want to join in.



Been riding Renshaw since before there was a cabin and regular grooming.
People need to get over it and enjoy the area.
Slow down when whooped out and take a couple breaks.
If sledding a rough trail once in a while stresses people out........better find an enjoyable hobby and back away from sledding.
If people feel they just wasted $25, take a real step back, look at your sled and rig.
Yup they are crying over elite first world spilled milk.

Renshaw regulars know the norm for grooming is pretty dam good.

will do buddy!

 

[kanedog]

43,000 views. Mcbride went Mcviral and has the most snow.

On another Mcbride note, the chef at the Gigglin Grizzly pub is a sledder. She moved to Mcbride to escape crowded Whistler a couple years ago. She was a 14 year pastry chef in Whistler so you may notice some artistic touches to the great food and desserts!

 

[Junior Highmark]

Ive been going to Renshaw since I was 10, Im 25 now. Renshaw trail being whooped out is a fact of life. Its like expecting a road designed for a few cars to hold up under highway traffic.

Anyways back to the conditions of McBride...

Heres a cool pic of Rknight111 in Bell as tax

 

[Sled denny]

Very nice pictures wow deep need to find some

 

[drag_it]

Thumbs up
To the guy which does the grooming awesome ride Monday and also Tuesday thanks great job.

 

[Bulldog Racing]

It’s funny to read the comments about poor grooming. If you can’t handle the whoops, stay home. I can remember heading into Renshaw from the Holmes River side back in the mid 90’s; if you ever went in that way you wouldn’t complain. The waterfall was an adventure both ways.
It all comes down to just quit whining about everything and go enjoy your time outside. Show your kids the mountains and have fun. That’s what it’s all about

 

[Jorg Jorgenson]

It’s funny to read the comments about poor grooming. If you can’t handle the whoops, stay home. I can remember heading into Renshaw from the Holmes River side back in the mid 90’s; if you ever went in that way you wouldn’t complain. The waterfall was an adventure both ways.
It all comes down to just quit whining about everything and go enjoy your time outside. Show your kids the mountains and have fun. That’s what it’s all about

Our group is considering trying to go in from that side later on this year, just for kicks and try something new, we are always up for a challenge and have never let a rough ride in deter us from finding the goods!

 

[snochuk]

It always interest me to see a picture of the snow level at the cabin deck. My snow depth gauge.
Anybody have a picture?

 

[Alex Hokanson]

on tuesday i probed lotsa areas around renshaw.averages around 6 feet.minimum was 125cm.maximum was 220cm

 

[Panzerdog]

I was there Monday

 

[AreWeThereYet]

View attachment 220775I was there Monday

Man I wanna head down but no time this week,..

One thing I don't do is park too close on the down slop side of a cabin roof when it has a snow build up.

 

[Dawizman]

It always interest me to see a picture of the snow level at the cabin deck. My snow depth gauge.
Anybody have a picture?

I would say it's pretty much ready by the looks of things.

 

[snochuk]

View attachment 220775I was there Monday

Wow!
That is a lot of snow for this time of year!