2012 pro climb suspension set up

[maxwell]

how bad is this sag your speaking of. sleds should have a certain amount of sag.

 

[Kruchy]

Mine was completely collapsed a several times that I stopped and checked over the four days of riding. Met another guy at Chappel with the same issues.

 

[Radical Rider]

My suspension was completely collapsed and still drops way down below the normal 2 or 3 inches of sag,like a low rider,never had a sled where the suspension would collapse like this.

 

[carlsonswerve]

just put in three days of riding, gremlin hit every day sporatically, sometimes lots of sag. low rider style, then no sag, topping out. ????? trail in seemed the worst, bottoming alot, then staying down. but then further down trail, no sag, not bottoming.

 

[Newmanater90]

Kruchy I believe i was the guy on Chapel lol and yep mine collapsed a few times as well and i have nothing but wear marks on the front shock support from bottoming out every second. One ride and the skid looks a year old already..Looks like a shock change out is the only answer!

 

[Radical Rider]

Wonder if arctic cat is aware of this or they just don't care,sure be nice if they just responded with a fix so we don't have to put out the extra dollars to fix this problem.This is a good sled so far for the first arctic cat i have owned.I will try warranty at the dealer for the suspension issue and if that doesn't work it will be sold and i will try a polaris.

 

[Kruchy]

Kruchy I believe i was the guy on Chapel lol and yep mine collapsed a few times as well and i have nothing but wear marks on the front shock support from bottoming out every second. One ride and the skid looks a year old already..Looks like a shock change out is the only answer!

It was me. I called my dealer and he was reporting it to Cat. So if everyone else reports the problem we should see a fix soon. When is your next trip Newmanater90?

 

[ttpowersports]

ok this rear shock this is a real mystery.. we have seen/had a few customers over the last two years have the same issue. i experienced it my self, works good then saks out...no matter how much air u put it in nothing..
(it is important to have the sled on its side to add air to ensure u get the most in, without the weight of the sled on the shock)

here s what i think is happening. since it doesnt lose air. its not the seal, the culprit is the oil,generally if the sled is left in a warm shop or garage no issues... then it usually takes day two in the hills for the shock to get lazy, if you ride the hell out of the sled the shock gets hot and the oil does what its suppose to, if your just trail riding or say running up the trail to the cabin at renshaw the shock doesnt get warm enough and gets lazy , some times it comes back sometimes not. i have seen two twin sleds only one fails, wtf.. it gets aggravating, you can rebuild it and it seems to be good.... but i think it must have to do with the viscosity of the oil or something along those lines. im no engineer so i dont no, we have dissassembled several and found no failed parts or reason for it to fail.

of course a coil over shock fixes this in a hurry but the fox floats and float two's are said to be a superior shock... i know that zbros have very specific set ups for rider weight and i believe that fox has theres two. so i wonder if all the other manufacturers have this spuratic shock fading issue... hmmm .. not sure the anwser , talked to cat personally and they want the shock part number and yr of the sled i have forwarded the part number for the proclimb 8 rear shock...we will see. now is the time when all the sleds in the new proclimb chassis are hitting the slopes so i am sure there will be a few tweeks that are going to arise. taking mine out soon ,, i hope,,, keep the shiny side up...

T

 

[canadian madman]

any resolutions yet? i need to fix mine before the next trip...it's sagging worse than a 90 year old woman...

 

[ttpowersports]

any resolutions yet? i need to fix mine before the next trip...it's sagging worse than a 90 year old woman...

sorry nothing yet... did your dealer check/rebuild it? i would personally but a burant setup on it... or a coil over...then no issues...or z bros shock..sorry i know thats not what u want to here..

T

 

[Newmanater90]

So i found this funny. The other day i check the mail and in it an envelope from arctic cat with a letter explaining that the first few sleds they produced had fox float 2's without the decals. Then the second half had the new versions with the decals on them. They also supplied 2 new decals and instructions on how to put them on the shock! WTF! I thought it as kinda an insult. First off cause my sled took forever to come in like late november because and the excuse my dealer said was it was still being built. So why did mine come with the old version of the float2. Kinda fishy to me. Not impressed

 

[0neoldfart]

I don't have a proclimb, but we have an M8 with the rear float shocks, and my M1000 has a holz rear suspension with float evol's in it. Hated the rear skids on both. Had burandt backcountry valving installed - works great on M8, helped the 1000 for awhile, but shock performance is hit and miss with the air shocks. They are not consistant in ride quality (or air pressure) day to day. I finally got tired of screwing around with air pressure every time I ride, and had a rear fox coilover built for the holz skid, and am awaiting delivery of the exit shocks for the M8. Incidentally, a big thank you to Michelle @ H2R distributors (fox distributor for canada) for researching & spending the time to get a zero pro shock made for me - holz doesn't make or sell them anymore, and didn't have a parts listing or valve stack specs. Super service, and willing to go the extra mile. Zbroz couldn't be bothered, and more or less told me to junk the skid, when I was fully prepared (with specs and dimensions) to spend the large on a custom shock.

 

[geordiep]

I have 2012 M800 162 and don't have a problem with the rear shock. I am running the following (basically stock recommended):
rider weight: 250lbs
front shocks: 75lbs
front pre-load: 2-3 threads showing
limiter strap in middle hole
Rear shock: 130lbs
FYI: make sure to have sled on its side with no pressure on shocks when checking/changing pressures

It trenches a bit but I think it is due to my weight. I am going to try 120 in rear next trip.

In regards to sag issues with your rear shock, found this on snowest: SnoWest Snowmobile Forum - View Single Post - Rear fox float

buy some fox float fluid
remove rear shock, bleed all air
unscrew air sleeve from end cap, slide sleeve down shock body exposing shaft
clean air chamber of any moisture
good time to stroke the shock, with one end on floor push and collapse rod into body then as it returns to full extension listen for air flowing thru valving, also look to see if rod comes out smooth and at a consistant speed.
If it doesnt you may have a hydraulic side issue, someone that works on shocks could help w/that.
Ok, slide air sleeve up an inch or two,
pour about 2 oz float fluid into air chamber (about a 1/4" deep around shock rod)
lube sleeve threads with float fluid and slide up to cap
screw sleeve back into cap, tighten firmly handtight
reinstall back into skid, dont forget to lube shock bushings
air up!

Problem:
Fine snow/ice working it's way into air seals in sleeve around shock body.
This prevents them from completely sealing the air chamber till shock warms up again. Then when it freezes again same problem. Factory is supposed to put float fluid in there but they always skimp and just mainly do grease. The lube keeps snow/ice from getting into the seals.

This will keep most of the moisture out of your air chamber, I still pull mine apart at the end of the season to wipe out and add float fluid anyway.

 

[Zombie55]

The rear shock is just one of many problems I am having with the shitty kitty. I would check your ser# on you rear shock, I am calling fox and getting them to check to see if it is a fox float 2. My guess is they are just trying to cover it up. If that is the case everyone who has the wrong shock, will get the right one. They have to give you the right shock, they have no choice! I have be dealing with them on the phone and I tell you what if I could turn back the clock, I would still be riding an XP! My trips are limted and I dont have the time to do r and d for artic cat. A guy can always expect some little problems with a new sled, but I am getting tired of the word back ordered.

 

[JJMAC]

hey rad rider. new on s&m been riding for a lot of years and have a 12 pro-climb with the same issue when i got it ..rear sag. i have quite a bit of race car set-up experience and i feel i have solved my SAG with playing with the suspension.. weight transfer is a big deal, when i got this sled it was set up very stiff, lotsa air in shocks and i had sag issue and was not happy with the ride. been playing a bit and first softened the front, down to 2 lines below 75lbs... im 210 lbs. was better, no more sag.but i lost rpm while climbing because the nose would not come up. yesterday i dropped the rear and still did not have sag and the sled rode so much better as the nose would come up nice booting through the trees, needed to get the weight to transfer smoothly to the rear on acceleration. you may have to much weight to the back, just play with it a bit, you do want to see the weight transfer to the rear when you accelerate, im finding that softer is better on this sled. good luck, let me know how you make out.

 

[HCR800<3]

Had 1600 miles on my 2012 M8 .. And the shock cratered my dealer did a rebuild on it and within an hour of riding it, it was completely sagged again. So I got it completely replaced they said the shaft was screwed? Who knows with those guys. Took it out this weekend and had troubles getting it to hold air! I was really disappointed with it at that point but it finally held air and rode on.. However if I have the wrong shock or just paid for new shock when all it was, was a oil issue or a snow and ice build up I'm gonna rip someone a new one!