2012 etec changes

[Caper11]

It looks like according to the microfich that there is new gearing, secondary calibration and belt for 2012. 40deg helix, blue/blue secondary spring, 19/51 gearing in the 163, and a 391 belt.

 

[maxwell]

curious to pull one apart when it arrives, ran into this last year the fiche were out to lunch until a bit after the sleds started showing up.

 

[Depsnolvr]

you leave my sled alone maxwell ! LOL

curious to pull one apart when it arrives, ran into this last year the fiche were out to lunch until a bit after the sleds started showing up.

 

[glengine]

curious to pull one apart when it arrives, ran into this last year the fiche were out to lunch until a bit after the sleds started showing up.

I thought you were gettin a new 2012 etec?? Oh right i forgot you got a new 2012 cat M8 comin..

 

[Foxstar45]

It looks like according to the microfich that there is new gearing, secondary calibration and belt for 2012. 40deg helix, blue/blue secondary spring, 19/51 gearing in the 163, and a 391 belt.

Who is microfich?

 

[Caper11]

I thought you were gettin a new 2012 etec?? Oh right i forgot you got a new 2012 cat M8 comin..

Hey glen , the new cat is heavy, we weighed on at 505lbs out of the box with no fuel

 

[Caper11]

Who is microfich?

I think he is related to maxwell.

 

[maxwell]

Hey glen , the new cat is heavy, we weighed on at 505lbs out of the box with no fuel

any idea what the etec comes in at?

 

[Foxstar45]

It wouldn't be that much different I don't think. 505 ready to ride w/0 fuel isn't that rank really.

 

[glengine]

Hey glen , the new cat is heavy, we weighed on at 505lbs out of the box with no fuel

They are the same weight as last year which that actually isn't bad with all fluids except fuel. You should weigh a doo i think you'll be suprised we weighed an '08 XP right out of the crate and it was 468lbs, and they have added a fair bit of weight to them since '08. Also which model was it that you weighed? Snopro? HCR?

 

[Teth-Air]

My 2011 was also 505 lbs with 2 bars of fuel and a mostly full oil tank.

 

[kellyandhislimo]

I beleive the book says the etec (163") is supposed to weigh in at 464lbs dry. thats what the bood says guess i will se when mine gets here.

 

[takethebounce]

I beleive the book says the etec (163") is supposed to weigh in at 464lbs dry. thats what the bood says guess i will se when mine gets here.

then add 64 lbs of fuel in the tank, oil, coolant and chain case fluid.

 

[Caper11]

Glen, It was just a regular 162 sled nothing special.

 

[Caper11]

Maxwell
No my dealer had no 2012's and wanted to weigh a 2012, I said he could go to the house and weigh my 2011 which is all stock besides the scratchers, but He wanted to keep it fair an weigh a 2012.

 

[Teth-Air]

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Caper 11, "It looks like according to the microfich that there is new gearing, secondary calibration and belt for 2012. 40deg helix, blue/blue secondary spring, 19/51 gearing in the 163, and a 391 belt."


Did you mean blue/blue primary spring? or is there a blue/blue secondary??

 

[pfi572]

I thought that 2.52 with a 174 was geared low but if true to the microfich they are going to a 2.68. The 19 tooth top gear is quite small and could give them trouble with the 163.
I had trouble with the 20/49 gearing stretching chains and breaking on the 174.
With 2.52 top speed is all over at about 80 +/- mph @8200 rpm. With 2.68 and 7900rpm ??? ( low), rev limiter!
Have to wait and see.

 

[Caper11]

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Caper 11, "It looks like according to the microfich that there is new gearing, secondary calibration and belt for 2012. 40deg helix, blue/blue secondary spring, 19/51 gearing in the 163, and a 391 belt."


Did you mean blue/blue primary spring? or is there a blue/blue secondary??

Secondary spring part # 417 127 118, blue/blue 157lb/221lb spring force.
The specs could change when the sled arrives.

 

[sledshedrevy]

thats a big change in secondery helix and spring from what they had been useing . makes a lot more sence . what does the physh show for the ramp in the primary and spring ? curious .there reverse angle helix mad them use a different shape ramp in the primary , steeper to assist the back shift . should be flatter with this 40 degeree helix and spring in the secondery .the 305 lbs of finish they have used since 04 , could be interesting to see the 12's primary .

 

[Flatlander_01]

what shocks come on the 12's hpg or kyb dealer couldn't be sure?