2.5 VS 3in mountain sled tracks

[takethebounce]

Now a question for you guys? If you cut the tunnel would it not make it harder to lift the back end out of trench if you have to. Like walking up to your sled then going back 4" to lift. Be tougher than a guy thinks. It's not close to your body for the power lift. I'm a bit older so maybe thats my problem Lol

Don’t cut the tunnel. By the shorter sled and put the longer track/rails on it.

And who lifts the back of sleds? Maybe in Saskatchewan.

 

[tex78]

The shorter lug would wheelie a lot less than the taller lug in the same snow condition. That's just a given. The shorter track allows the sled to keep trenching and move forward where the normal tunnel length will get hung up on the snow

Huh

Sorry that's azz backwards

The foot boards and foot wells are what limit trenching, as you can only trench till sled is hung up

And shorter track trenches more and stops moving forward as the track falls out to the limit stops

Where a longer track will trench less and stay up longer before falling out

Especially since a shorter track will cat walk and have less track on the snow

 

[Bernoff]

What do ya lift on when the tunnel is down it the trench. Oh i get it you get somebody else to lift and you work the throttle. That's a good solution.

 

[kanedog]

This is very entertaining. First, no snow flap to make the sled go better and now we are gonna cut the tunnel so we don’t get stuck. This is awesome.

 

[v10rider]

Huh

Sorry that's azz backwards

The foot boards and foot wells are what limit trenching, as you can only trench till sled is hung up

And shorter track trenches more and stops moving forward as the track falls out to the limit stops

Where a longer track will trench less and stay up longer before falling out

Especially since a shorter track will cat walk and have less track on the snow

Maybe if you can actually read.......i said shorter lugs not shorter track

 

[tex78]

Maybe if you can actually read.......i said shorter lugs not shorter track

Middle of your post says nothing of shorter lug track, just shorter track


First part yes has lug in there

 

[v10rider]

Middle of your post says nothing of shorter lug track, just shorter track


First part yes has lug in there

OOopps, i meant shorter tunnel. At least that's what burandt's logic with running a 163 on his 155 chasis. Anyway, i think it is silly talk with the whole shorter tunnel thing but hey seems like that's the trend.

 

[1100]

Noticed a bunch of ryders sleds seem to be running 154” tracks on 146” tunnels as well. I’ve been running an 3” on and off since 08, have always liked the 3” more in deep snow. Have also rode a few turbo two strokes with some bad lag, the 2.5 seems to work better on them, sled seems to propel forward less, digs more of a trench,so it gives time for the engine to build power, before it propels itself forward.

 

[takethebounce]

What do ya lift on when the tunnel is down it the trench. Oh i get it you get somebody else to lift and you work the throttle. That's a good solution.

Haha lifting sleds is for guys who want to kill their backs. There is no reason for anyone to lift a sled out of a trench especially if you don’t happen to have a free set of hands near by.

And should you want to do such a shorter tunnel isn’t going to stop you. Put a 163 on a 155 or a 174 on a 163 and it’s only 4” max difference of rear extension. Your bumper will be there for you just the same as before.

 

[Bnorth]

It's easier to lift with a strap looped around the bumper anyway.

 

[AreWeThereYet]

It's easier to lift with a strap looped around the bumper anyway.

 

[OOC ZigZag]

Makes perfect sense less track lug is better???? Legalization has taken a tole lmfao.

 

[deaner]

If all you're looking at is capability, ie which sled is going to go through deeper snow better, then I think the longer track and taller lug is always going to win. It comes at a cost though. The sled gets a bit harder to ride (in some ways), track durability goes down, and fun factor goes down. Totally depends what you are looking for, and for most people its going to be a balancing act in the middle somewhere. 163/165 track in either 2.5 or 3 is going to be the best all around for most people......taller lug going to people that ride more for the deep days.

Im finding that I really miss the challenge and fun factor of a stock short sled. Next sled will be a stock powered 146 or 154 2.5

 

[deaner]

She looks so happy!

 

[Modman]

Anytime there is a dump of snow, unless it is a warm heavy dump, a 3" is going to get you out of the hole better. It just shovels more at one time to help push you forward. Yes a 2.5" works, but I cannot see an instance where the snow is deep that a 3" will not be superior.

Any stuck is stuck. Whether you have a 2.5 or 3", you are probably dug to the running boards. A 3" isn't digging deeper.

Only to the running boards? Sound like you haven't ridden with my buddy yet! LOL

 

[snochuk]

Makes perfect sense less track lug is better???? Legalization has taken a tole lmfao.

If I could click "loves this post" ten times I would have!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[snochuk]

Only to the running boards? Sound like you haven't ridden with my buddy yet! LOL

Or my friend.
I am older and a little sloppier in my rider skills so I like the forgiveness of a 3" track in both 150 and 160 series tracks.

 

[Quicksand]

Im finding that I really miss the challenge and fun factor of a stock short sled. Next sled will be a stock powered 146 or 154 2.5

This is exactly what i did, went to a 155" 2.6 axys, debated a 155 3" but wanted the belt drive. It will go anywhere my 163" went but way more fun to ride, gotta keep more momentum and be thinking farther ahead, has made me a better rider

 

[Bernoff]

Haha lifting sleds is for guys who want to kill their backs. There is no reason for anyone to lift a sled out of a trench especially if you don’t happen to have a free set of hands near by.

And should you want to do such a shorter tunnel isn’t going to stop you. Put a 163 on a 155 or a 174 on a 163 and it’s only 4” max difference of rear extension. Your bumper will be there for you just the same as before.

Okay okay okay your absolutely right.

 

[mountainsledmania]

He makes a really good point if you listen closely. He says the 3 inch 'Moves" more snow, if your simply moving snow it doesn't mean anything other then your wasting energy. The goal is not to "Move" snow, its to use it for traction, when we look back at track speed vs traction does it mean more track speed equates to being on plain quicker thus leading to more traction? Is this why turbos work so well?