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I am sure it is great on groomed trails
 

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sometimes I think mountain sleders need to realize they are not the only market for sledding, and that there are other models and applications that people own and love to ride that don't have mountains to take off to on the weekends.....everyone is so quick to say all sleds are no good that don't have a 153 + track, or 2 1/2"lugs, or aren't 2012 or newer but what about the people who like to tool down a trail at 50k, enjoy nature and the scenery and just ride. maybe they only want to go to the cabin and hang out, maybe they just want to ride the lakes and fields......who are you to judge someone sled that serves their needs perfectly......just my $.02
 
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sometimes i think mountain sleders need to realize they are not the market for sledding, and that there are other models and applications that people own and love to ride that don't have mountains to take off to on the weekends.....everyone is so quick to say all sleds are no good that don't have a 153 + track, or 2 1/2"lugs, or aren't 2012 or newer but what about the people who like to tool down a trail at 50k, enjoy nature and the scenery and just ride. Maybe they only want to go to the cabin and hang out, maybe they just want to ride the lakes and fields......who are you to judge someone sled that serves their needs perfectly......just my $.02
and well said, plio.... I agree........
 

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sometimes I think mountain sleders need to realize they are not the only market for sledding, and that there are other models and applications that people own and love to ride that don't have mountains to take off to on the weekends.....everyone is so quick to say all sleds are no good that don't have a 153 + track, or 2 1/2"lugs, or aren't 2012 or newer but what about the people who like to tool down a trail at 50k, enjoy nature and the scenery and just ride. maybe they only want to go to the cabin and hang out, maybe they just want to ride the lakes and fields......who are you to judge someone sled that serves their needs perfectly......just my $.02

couple fun facts.....there are more than double the sleds registered in Quebec than in BC and AB together.....Ontario is almost double the 2 together. NFLD has more than both as well. and I would wager.....a lot of those are trail sleds......
 

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couple fun facts.....there are more than double the sleds registered in quebec than in bc and ab together.....ontario is almost double the 2 together. Nfld has more than both as well. And i would wager.....a lot of those are trail sleds......

mountain sleds are a minor portion of what any of the manufacturer's produce........ Majority being trail sleds of one type or another
 

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I would like to know how many alberta guys have their sleds registered before I put a lot of credit into those numbers. I know mines not registered and I don't have any friends with registered sleds either.
 

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Well said. Each to their own. Trail riding on a well set up trail sled can be a blast IMO
 

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THIS MIGHT HELP:


1.There are four major manufacturers that build snowmobiles. They are: Arctic Cat—headquartered in Plymouth, MN; BRP—headquartered in Valcourt, Quebec; Polaris Industries—headquartered in Medina, MN; and Yamaha Motor Corporation—headquartered in Cypress, CA.
2.In 2013 there were 144,601 snowmobiles sold worldwide; 48,536 were sold in the U.S. and 44,022 were sold in Canada.
3.There are 1.4 million registered snowmobiles in the US and 590,677 registered snowmobiles in Canada.
4.The Economic Impact of Snowmobiling: ◦United States—$26 billion annually
◦Canada—$8 billion annually
◦Europe & Russia—$5 billion annually

5.Over 100,000 full time jobs are generated by the snowmobile industry in North America. Those jobs are involved in manufacturing, dealerships and tourism related businesses.
6.The average age of a snowmobiler is 43 years old.
7.The average annual household income for snowmobilers is $68,000.
8.The average snowmobiler rides their snowmobile 1206 miles (2241 km) per year in North America.
9.53% of the snowmobilers usually trailer their snowmobiles to go riding. 47% either snowmobile from their primary residence or have a vacation home where they keep and use their snowmobiles.
10.Snowmobilers are caring neighbors, they raised over $3 million for charity during the 2012-2013 season.
11.There are over 225,000 miles of groomed and marked snowmobile trails in North America that have been developed by volunteer clubs working with local government and private land owners.
12.There are over 3000 snowmobile clubs worldwide, involved in trail grooming and charity fund raising and family activities.
13.There are over 42 registered non-profit associations representing snowmobilers in the U.S., Canada and Scandinavia.
14.Snowmobiling is great exercise that brings people outdoors to interact with nature and each other. It is an invigorating sport that is great for stress release and good mental health.
15.Snowmobiling is a great family lifestyle. It is an activity that keeps parents and kids together. Historically individuals who snowmobile at a young age continue to snowmobile with their parents throughout their lives, sharing great experiences as a family. In many winter regions, snowmobiling is simply the main form of winter outdoor recreation and in some cases the main method of transportation available.
16.The use of snowmobiles in National Parks is regulated by Federal Law Enforcement. The snowmobiling occurs on roads groomed and marked for snowmobiling, the same roadways used by recreational vehicles, cars, trucks and busses. Snowmobiles are NOT used as off-road vehicles in National Parks such as Yellowstone, Rocky Mountain and Grand Teton.
17.On U.S. National Forest Land, most of the trails used by snowmobiles are on groomed roads used by summer recreationists. There are also secondary and seasonal roads within the forests used by snowmobilers. These roads are groomed and marked by volunteers who work closely with the local U.S. Forest Service staff in maintaining and managing those areas.
18.The manufacturers have always been actively involved in promoting safe riding behavior while snowmobiling. Over one million safety related brochures, decals and hundreds of thousands of posters and safety videos have been distributed free of charge to safety trainers, enforcement officers, Travel Bureaus, Chambers of Commerce, Convention and Visitor Bureaus, and snowmobile enthusiasts throughout the world.
19.State/Provincial snowmobile registrations for 2012-2013 season were as follows:

State
/Province # registered State
/Province # registered
AK 52,400 SD 14,845
CA 20,184 UT 23,184
CO 28,481 VT 25,238
ID 38,324 WA 28,000
IL 33,750 WI 224,716
IN 9,021 WY 30,728
IA 25,917 AB 35,000
ME 80,000 BC 40,200
MA 12,845 MB 35,000
MI 205,808 NB 15,750
MN 251,986 NF 101,360
MT 46,606 NS 6,661
NE 836 NT 5,000
NH 42,000 NU 286
NY 115,017 ON 149,000
ND 14,528 PE 1,650
OH 14,000 QC 176,564
OR 15,129 SA 23,307
PA 38,500 YT 899
 

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that's where I got my info from as well
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1.There are four major manufacturers that build snowmobiles. They are: Arctic Cat—headquartered in Plymouth, MN; BRP—headquartered in Valcourt, Quebec; Polaris Industries—headquartered in Medina, MN; and Yamaha Motor Corporation—headquartered in Cypress, CA.
2.In 2013 there were 144,601 snowmobiles sold worldwide; 48,536 were sold in the U.S. and 44,022 were sold in Canada.
3.There are 1.4 million registered snowmobiles in the US and 590,677 registered snowmobiles in Canada.
4.The Economic Impact of Snowmobiling: ◦United States—$26 billion annually
◦Canada—$8 billion annually
◦Europe & Russia—$5 billion annually

5.Over 100,000 full time jobs are generated by the snowmobile industry in North America. Those jobs are involved in manufacturing, dealerships and tourism related businesses.
6.The average age of a snowmobiler is 43 years old.
7.The average annual household income for snowmobilers is $68,000.
8.The average snowmobiler rides their snowmobile 1206 miles (2241 km) per year in North America.
9.53% of the snowmobilers usually trailer their snowmobiles to go riding. 47% either snowmobile from their primary residence or have a vacation home where they keep and use their snowmobiles.
10.Snowmobilers are caring neighbors, they raised over $3 million for charity during the 2012-2013 season.
11.There are over 225,000 miles of groomed and marked snowmobile trails in North America that have been developed by volunteer clubs working with local government and private land owners.
12.There are over 3000 snowmobile clubs worldwide, involved in trail grooming and charity fund raising and family activities.
13.There are over 42 registered non-profit associations representing snowmobilers in the U.S., Canada and Scandinavia.
14.Snowmobiling is great exercise that brings people outdoors to interact with nature and each other. It is an invigorating sport that is great for stress release and good mental health.
15.Snowmobiling is a great family lifestyle. It is an activity that keeps parents and kids together. Historically individuals who snowmobile at a young age continue to snowmobile with their parents throughout their lives, sharing great experiences as a family. In many winter regions, snowmobiling is simply the main form of winter outdoor recreation and in some cases the main method of transportation available.
16.The use of snowmobiles in National Parks is regulated by Federal Law Enforcement. The snowmobiling occurs on roads groomed and marked for snowmobiling, the same roadways used by recreational vehicles, cars, trucks and busses. Snowmobiles are NOT used as off-road vehicles in National Parks such as Yellowstone, Rocky Mountain and Grand Teton.
17.On U.S. National Forest Land, most of the trails used by snowmobiles are on groomed roads used by summer recreationists. There are also secondary and seasonal roads within the forests used by snowmobilers. These roads are groomed and marked by volunteers who work closely with the local U.S. Forest Service staff in maintaining and managing those areas.
18.The manufacturers have always been actively involved in promoting safe riding behavior while snowmobiling. Over one million safety related brochures, decals and hundreds of thousands of posters and safety videos have been distributed free of charge to safety trainers, enforcement officers, Travel Bureaus, Chambers of Commerce, Convention and Visitor Bureaus, and snowmobile enthusiasts throughout the world.
19.State/Provincial snowmobile registrations for 2012-2013 season were as follows:

State
/Province # registered State
/Province # registered
AK 52,400 SD 14,845
CA 20,184 UT 23,184
CO 28,481 VT 25,238
ID 38,324 WA 28,000
IL 33,750 WI 224,716
IN 9,021 WY 30,728
IA 25,917 AB 35,000
ME 80,000 BC 40,200
MA 12,845 MB 35,000
MI 205,808 NB 15,750
MN 251,986 NF 101,360
MT 46,606 NS 6,661
NE 836 NT 5,000
NH 42,000 NU 286
NY 115,017 ON 149,000
ND 14,528 PE 1,650
OH 14,000 QC 176,564
OR 15,129 SA 23,307
PA 38,500 YT 899
 

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and you figure this is different in quebec or Ontario, and all sledders there nice law abiding citizens who would never run an unregistered machine? these stats may not be bang on but pretty sure they give a good idea of the different #'s

also imo anyone not registered should go get registered.....the higher those #'s are the better it is for the sport....strength in #'s is a fact. the more #'s the government see's as registered riders the more pull we have as a community. even if 100,000 sign a petition it means f'all if we only have 20,000 registered riders.
I would like to know how many alberta guys have their sleds registered before I put a lot of credit into those numbers. I know mines not registered and I don't have any friends with registered sleds either.
 

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It's all building technology. The E-tec started out as a boat motor. The tuned up ACE motor might be what we see in a turbo 4 stroke Summit a few years down the line.
 
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