What are you doing to make sure knothead is out

[LennyR]

“Aside from the danger point”.....pretty easy to brush that off when you’re not the guy doing it. And no, $100k isn’t a fortune to anyone with any skills or training. If you decide to take a mediocre job in the city requiring minimal skills and training don’t expect to be at the top of the pay scale. That’s why a mechanic in the field overhauling the finals on a dozer gets paid way more than the guy at the dealership doing brake jobs on a Honda Civic.
And our job has lots of downsides too. IDLH/Toxin/chemical/heat and noise exposure just to name a few.
Not only did most of us hack a real job, we hacked a selection process that eliminates 80% of the people that apply.
We have a saying.... “ don’t cry, apply”. You should throw in your resume and give it a whirl. Should be a breeze for a guy like you.

We we have a saying also. You decided for whatever reasons to choose your employment, that’s great. If you chose firefighter I have to assume you were aware it involved dangerous situations with fires, if you chose para medic or police I have to assume you were aware it may involve horrendous accidents criminals And death. And you I assume we’re aware of the remuneration and benefits. Just like the plumber the carpenter the grader driver the teacher etc. I get a bit full of the prima donna expectation so many display, speaking of entitlement . And I suggest the risk part of the firefighting is maybe balanced out a bit by the 4 fire trucks and 6 or 8 fully geared members and 2 police cars and 3 medic trucks at every accident that does more than bust a rear taillight in an intersection , thus tying up traffic for an hour or so while standing around in full view of the people being asked to pay more taxes to hire more fire fighters. So if you find the danger and risk is to much for you , I’d suggest you chose incorrectly and should rethink and re-educate. I certainly appreciate their help when it’s appropriate or necessary, but that’s the job you chose. I appreciate my plumber also when my sewer backs up in the basement and the grader driver when he plots my street , cause that’s the job they chose.

 

[ferniesnow]

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Holy chit! What a bunch of scum bags! I can just imagine the type of politician they will be if this is how they try to get re-elected. Man are we in trouble in this country.

 

[chickenman]

We we have a saying also. You decided for whatever reasons to choose your employment, that’s great. If you chose firefighter I have to assume you were aware it involved dangerous situations with fires, if you chose para medic or police I have to assume you were aware it may involve horrendous accidents criminals And death. And you I assume we’re aware of the remuneration and benefits. Just like the plumber the carpenter the grader driver the teacher etc. I get a bit full of the prima donna expectation so many display, speaking of entitlement . And I suggest the risk part of the firefighting is maybe balanced out a bit by the 4 fire trucks and 6 or 8 fully geared members and 2 police cars and 3 medic trucks at every accident that does more than bust a rear taillight in an intersection , thus tying up traffic for an hour or so while standing around in full view of the people being asked to pay more taxes to hire more fire fighters. So if you find the danger and risk is to much for you , I’d suggest you chose incorrectly and should rethink and re-educate. I certainly appreciate their help when it’s appropriate or necessary, but that’s the job you chose. I appreciate my plumber also when my sewer backs up in the basement and the grader driver when he plots my street , cause that’s the job they chose.

This isn't too catchy of a saying....

 

[LennyR]

This isn't too catchy of a saying....

LOL, That’s true .

 

[Tchetek]

Holy chit! What a bunch of scum bags! I can just imagine the type of politician they will be if this is how they try to get re-elected. Man are we in trouble in this country.

What is the deal with the fire fighters of Alberta across the top of these?

My neighbour is the fire chief of an Edmonton suburb and he has a blue sign at the end of his driveway!

Does the fire fighting community actually support these oranges?

 

[chickenman]

No, read the last couple pages and it will explain

 

[Mike270412]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-TmwltHsbU

What is the deal with the fire fighters of Alberta across the top of these?

My neighbour is the fire chief of an Edmonton suburb and he has a blue sign at the end of his driveway!

Does the fire fighting community actually support these oranges?

 

[Cdnfireman]

We we have a saying also. You decided for whatever reasons to choose your employment, that’s great. If you chose firefighter I have to assume you were aware it involved dangerous situations with fires, if you chose para medic or police I have to assume you were aware it may involve horrendous accidents criminals And death. And you I assume we’re aware of the remuneration and benefits. Just like the plumber the carpenter the grader driver the teacher etc. I get a bit full of the prima donna expectation so many display, speaking of entitlement . And I suggest the risk part of the firefighting is maybe balanced out a bit by the 4 fire trucks and 6 or 8 fully geared members and 2 police cars and 3 medic trucks at every accident that does more than bust a rear taillight in an intersection , thus tying up traffic for an hour or so while standing around in full view of the people being asked to pay more taxes to hire more fire fighters. So if you find the danger and risk is to much for you , I’d suggest you chose incorrectly and should rethink and re-educate. I certainly appreciate their help when it’s appropriate or necessary, but that’s the job you chose. I appreciate my plumber also when my sewer backs up in the basement and the grader driver when he plots my street , cause that’s the job they chose.

I'm happy doing what I do, and am well aware of the advantages and disadvantages of the job.....I just get sick of all the unmotivated, whiners that get upset when someone has a better job than them, or one that has pension and benefits....I cant believe all the communistic attitudes that people have that if they don't have good pay or benefits then nobody else should either.....
And your comments about what fire/police/ems do for a living demonstrates your ignorance.....

 

[pfi572]

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/ele...9mQ_4Iq3RDf5Xui6LK9chr4Jr0yP54vi44V3CX2jkC5do

They are gaining . Grrrrr
But CBC so who knows how true?

 

[LennyR]

I'm happy doing what I do, and am well aware of the advantages and disadvantages of the job.....I just get sick of all the unmotivated, whiners that get upset when someone has a better job than them, or one that has pension and benefits....I cant believe all the communistic attitudes that people have that if they don't have good pay or benefits then nobody else should either.....
And your comments about what fire/police/ems do for a living demonstrates your ignorance.....

LOL, Glad you’re happy. My comments stand.

 

[Lightningmike]

So true!

 

[Cyle]

“Aside from the danger point”.....pretty easy to brush that off when you’re not the guy doing it. And no, $100k isn’t a fortune to anyone with any skills or training. If you decide to take a mediocre job in the city requiring minimal skills and training don’t expect to be at the top of the pay scale. That’s why a mechanic in the field overhauling the finals on a dozer gets paid way more than the guy at the dealership doing brake jobs on a Honda Civic.
And our job has lots of downsides too. IDLH/Toxin/chemical/heat and noise exposure just to name a few.
Not only did most of us hack a real job, we hacked a selection process that eliminates 80% of the people that apply.
We have a saying.... “ don’t cry, apply”. You should throw in your resume and give it a whirl. Should be a breeze for a guy like you.

You wanna know the funny part? Over the past 10 years there has been probably 20 who have come work here and there, the common theme? I can't wait to go back to the hall, it's a hell of a lot easier. Quite a few who you'd think would be in shape couldn't hack it at all. Don't get me wrong there is many good ones, but there's a ton who would only be capable/qualified to work at mcdonalds if they had to choose something else. Look at how they aren't even suppose to open the hoods on the rigs as people are too stupid and fawk chit up.

He's the foreman at a heavy truck dealer, and formerly worked at brandt tractor, so I wouldn't assume anything.

I actually did consider it years ago, and was encouraged as it's a easy pay check and you're set for life. Sure it's a selection process but it's not really that bad. Never mind it's a lot to do with who you know. But I couldn't be bothered. I make a hell of a lot more running my own company, and I don't answer to anyone and can tell anyone I want to go fawk themselves, that's worth a lot in my books

 

[Cyle]

I'm happy doing what I do, and am well aware of the advantages and disadvantages of the job.....I just get sick of all the unmotivated, whiners that get upset when someone has a better job than them, or one that has pension and benefits....I cant believe all the communistic attitudes that people have that if they don't have good pay or benefits then nobody else should either.....
And your comments about what fire/police/ems do for a living demonstrates your ignorance.....

I'm not whining about your job. I make a lot more then any firefighter does, even when you include the benefits.

I'm tired of public servants who say woe is me we make so little blah blah blah when they are out of touch with reality and how well they have it.

 

[gunner3006]

I work in oil and gas. I saw first hand what sort of **** the PCs pulled. I saw Jason Kenney's federal handiwork as Immigration Minister at work with unqualified TFWs being brought onto sites and blowing up propane cylinders because they all had faked their qualifications and didn't understand anything. I saw hundreds of people lose their jobs because of poor planning from previous governments. I got a front row seat to incredible ****show that was carbon capture, where the client's engineers were actively talking about what a white elephant carbon capture was, and how it was a giant make work project at the province's expense. I helped build extraction facilities that were slated from the start to funnel our money to the US, extraordinarily blatantly to a Calumet refinery in Montana that was designed solely to profit at the expense of Canadians. I saw the only value-added project at NWR come around because Redford was trying to use it as a Hail Mary to distract people, which, by the way, was notorious as being never really supposed to happen outside of the surveying and being a way for Stelmach's ranching buddies to sell the province their land at a premium over a premium.
And on the commercial side of things, well, I'm well aware of the scramble that's come around because of our failing infrastructure. Amazing what happens when you don't build things where they're needed. Things like new hospitals to serve growing areas, which, I'm sorry to inform you, are not really rural areas. But do end up serving rural areas, when they end up driving to Edmonton or Calgary when they need the sort of services that need to have things like dedicated lab networks, which can only really exist where there is everyone that has to staff all of those primary and supporting services.
There was a huge thing about the previous PC governments, that that was crony capitalism. I'd never vote for anyone out to destroy the people that built this province. Or their kids, whether they're little gay kids that need a GSA for support or ones trying to fund post-secondary that don't deserve to be paid less for their hard work. Or the health care system, which, interestingly enough, is mostly inefficient because of our incredibly overbuilt rural health care network. It's awesome, because everyone deserves the right to be healthy and not have to be med-evaced everywhere. But I know that if I was looking for something to slash to bring down costs, that would be a pretty tempting cherry. Assuming that it's not outright privatized.
The fact of the matter is is that Alberta succeeded in spite of our governments. And we finally have a premier who's not looking to line their own pockets or reward their friends with sweetheart contracts. And you want to go back to that, because you've got rose coloured glasses on. Well, I sincerely hope that you can afford the consequences, because it's gonna fall on every single person who's not a "job creating" business owner. Things like toll roads (which, interestingly enough, will cost the rural Albertan more than me), public-private partnerships that never work out right but end up enriching shareholders out of the taxpayer's pocket, and catering to the charter schools of faith-supremacist groups at the expense of our public school systems.
But yeah, let's act like the Carbon Tax is the big problem. And that if we axe the provincial one, the federal one won't instantly come into play and take all that money out of the province. Because that's the biggest thing about it, that if we don't have a provincial one in place, the federal one comes in, and it's Ottawa that decides where the funds from that one goes. And it sure won't be Alberta, because that's not efficient at buying votes. Dumping it into BC, or the Maritimes, or Quebec... that's bang for your buck at a federal level. Sure, Trudeau might not be leader next election, but he is now. And that's where he'll dump it. Andrew Scheer, on the other hand, talks a big game about dumping it, but he'll almost certainly be seduced by the idea of a giant slush fund that he can try and shore up support in Ontario with. Why kill the golden goose when you can make omelets, after all? And why spend in Alberta, when Alberta has shown that they'll vote for a blue rock even if a Conservative government changes the equalization formula to funnel even more money to Quebec from Alberta (ask Kenney about that one, after all, he was part of the government that drafted that revision and he voted for it personally).
If you're looking for someone to blame for the devastation, then it's probably best that we all take the late Jim Prentice's advice, and look in the mirror. Because he was right, and it was all our faults for electing Don Getty. And letting Ralph Klein blow up a hospital so he could pay for a cardboard sign. And for letting Ed Stelmach have an entire mandate dictated by backroom party hacks. And for letting Alison Redford live her petro-shiekh fantasies on our dime. At least we showed Prentice what happens when you come down from on high without any real answers. But hey, Jason Kenney totally won't be like the rest. It's not like he started out on the payroll of US lobby groups taking pet issue stances for pay. It's not like he sold out Canadians by rubber stamping TFWs and letting big companies do whatever they want, federally. And it's not like he hasn't come out and said that his platform is going to hurt Albertans (to be fair, that was one of his candidates, and he just didn't refute it).
But yeah, the NDP are the problem for trying to deal with 40 years of mismanagement. So let's get rid of someone competent who's stood up for Albertans because they started in the worst case scenario and has been steadily working to bring things back to the best of what this province can be. After all, Rachel Notley won her leadership race fair and square, so obviously she can't be devious enough to drive this province back into being a dumpster fire, since she didn't have a federal MP's job to get paid not to do while rigging a leadership campaign against rivals.
Also, because I forgot:
THE PREMIER OF ALBERTA DOES NOT SET OIL PRICES.
Which, you know, is one huge reason that we've had problems with revenues besides slashing the tax base. And I do mean YUUUUUUUUUUGE, with a Y, because it comes right out of the supply side handbook.

Get **** outta here.

 

[ducati]

The way I see it is that Notley is actually not a bad leader (I don’t share her values but she does speak well and take care with most of her statements) but she is front of a party full of socialists and incompetence.

Kenny on the other had comes across to me as a bad leader in front of a good party. He is not good at ensuring his speeches stay on the right track and don’t end up as a negative news clip and he comes across as a career politician that is out for that government cheque.

My views are probably a little further right on some topics than the UCP and further left on others but I will be voting UCP as I know that is what will be best for my family and Alberta.

Just my opinion, everyone has one and that is okay, what worries me is that I don’t believe we are a slam dunk on the conservative side as the smear campaigns by the NDP are resonating with some people that could lean either direction.

 

[Summitric]

the way i see it is that notley is actually not a bad leader (i don’t share her values but she does speak well and take care with most of her statements) but she is front of a party full of socialists and incompetence.

Kenny on the other had comes across to me as a bad leader in front of a good party. He is not good at ensuring his speeches stay on the right track and don’t end up as a negative news clip and he comes across as a career politician that is out for that government cheque.

My views are probably a little further right on some topics than the ucp and further left on others but i will be voting ucp as i know that is what will be best for my family and alberta.

Just my opinion, everyone has one and that is okay, what worries me is that i don’t believe we are a slam dunk on the conservative side as the smear campaigns by the ndp are resonating with some people that could lean either direction.

i find kenney as a very good speaker... Will be interesting at the leaders debate. Should be a walkover for kenney

 

[Rene G]

I work in oil and gas. I saw first hand what sort of **** the PCs pulled. I saw Jason Kenney's federal handiwork as Immigration Minister at work with unqualified TFWs being brought onto sites and blowing up propane cylinders because they all had faked their qualifications and didn't understand anything. I saw hundreds of people lose their jobs because of poor planning from previous governments. I got a front row seat to incredible ****show that was carbon capture, where the client's engineers were actively talking about what a white elephant carbon capture was, and how it was a giant make work project at the province's expense. I helped build extraction facilities that were slated from the start to funnel our money to the US, extraordinarily blatantly to a Calumet refinery in Montana that was designed solely to profit at the expense of Canadians. I saw the only value-added project at NWR come around because Redford was trying to use it as a Hail Mary to distract people, which, by the way, was notorious as being never really supposed to happen outside of the surveying and being a way for Stelmach's ranching buddies to sell the province their land at a premium over a premium.
And on the commercial side of things, well, I'm well aware of the scramble that's come around because of our failing infrastructure. Amazing what happens when you don't build things where they're needed. Things like new hospitals to serve growing areas, which, I'm sorry to inform you, are not really rural areas. But do end up serving rural areas, when they end up driving to Edmonton or Calgary when they need the sort of services that need to have things like dedicated lab networks, which can only really exist where there is everyone that has to staff all of those primary and supporting services.
There was a huge thing about the previous PC governments, that that was crony capitalism. I'd never vote for anyone out to destroy the people that built this province. Or their kids, whether they're little gay kids that need a GSA for support or ones trying to fund post-secondary that don't deserve to be paid less for their hard work. Or the health care system, which, interestingly enough, is mostly inefficient because of our incredibly overbuilt rural health care network. It's awesome, because everyone deserves the right to be healthy and not have to be med-evaced everywhere. But I know that if I was looking for something to slash to bring down costs, that would be a pretty tempting cherry. Assuming that it's not outright privatized.
The fact of the matter is is that Alberta succeeded in spite of our governments. And we finally have a premier who's not looking to line their own pockets or reward their friends with sweetheart contracts. And you want to go back to that, because you've got rose coloured glasses on. Well, I sincerely hope that you can afford the consequences, because it's gonna fall on every single person who's not a "job creating" business owner. Things like toll roads (which, interestingly enough, will cost the rural Albertan more than me), public-private partnerships that never work out right but end up enriching shareholders out of the taxpayer's pocket, and catering to the charter schools of faith-supremacist groups at the expense of our public school systems.
But yeah, let's act like the Carbon Tax is the big problem. And that if we axe the provincial one, the federal one won't instantly come into play and take all that money out of the province. Because that's the biggest thing about it, that if we don't have a provincial one in place, the federal one comes in, and it's Ottawa that decides where the funds from that one goes. And it sure won't be Alberta, because that's not efficient at buying votes. Dumping it into BC, or the Maritimes, or Quebec... that's bang for your buck at a federal level. Sure, Trudeau might not be leader next election, but he is now. And that's where he'll dump it. Andrew Scheer, on the other hand, talks a big game about dumping it, but he'll almost certainly be seduced by the idea of a giant slush fund that he can try and shore up support in Ontario with. Why kill the golden goose when you can make omelets, after all? And why spend in Alberta, when Alberta has shown that they'll vote for a blue rock even if a Conservative government changes the equalization formula to funnel even more money to Quebec from Alberta (ask Kenney about that one, after all, he was part of the government that drafted that revision and he voted for it personally).
If you're looking for someone to blame for the devastation, then it's probably best that we all take the late Jim Prentice's advice, and look in the mirror. Because he was right, and it was all our faults for electing Don Getty. And letting Ralph Klein blow up a hospital so he could pay for a cardboard sign. And for letting Ed Stelmach have an entire mandate dictated by backroom party hacks. And for letting Alison Redford live her petro-shiekh fantasies on our dime. At least we showed Prentice what happens when you come down from on high without any real answers. But hey, Jason Kenney totally won't be like the rest. It's not like he started out on the payroll of US lobby groups taking pet issue stances for pay. It's not like he sold out Canadians by rubber stamping TFWs and letting big companies do whatever they want, federally. And it's not like he hasn't come out and said that his platform is going to hurt Albertans (to be fair, that was one of his candidates, and he just didn't refute it).
But yeah, the NDP are the problem for trying to deal with 40 years of mismanagement. So let's get rid of someone competent who's stood up for Albertans because they started in the worst case scenario and has been steadily working to bring things back to the best of what this province can be. After all, Rachel Notley won her leadership race fair and square, so obviously she can't be devious enough to drive this province back into being a dumpster fire, since she didn't have a federal MP's job to get paid not to do while rigging a leadership campaign against rivals.
Also, because I forgot:
THE PREMIER OF ALBERTA DOES NOT SET OIL PRICES.
Which, you know, is one huge reason that we've had problems with revenues besides slashing the tax base. And I do mean YUUUUUUUUUUGE, with a Y, because it comes right out of the supply side handbook.

Post #1, during an election campaign. Tools like the NDP party found a new group to influence.

 

[Cat401]

I work in oil and gas. I saw first hand what sort of **** the PCs pulled. I saw Jason Kenney's federal handiwork as Immigration Minister at work with unqualified TFWs being brought onto sites and blowing up propane cylinders because they all had faked their qualifications and didn't understand anything. I saw hundreds of people lose their jobs because of poor planning from previous governments. I got a front row seat to incredible ****show that was carbon capture, where the client's engineers were actively talking about what a white elephant carbon capture was, and how it was a giant make work project at the province's expense. I helped build extraction facilities that were slated from the start to funnel our money to the US, extraordinarily blatantly to a Calumet refinery in Montana that was designed solely to profit at the expense of Canadians. I saw the only value-added project at NWR come around because Redford was trying to use it as a Hail Mary to distract people, which, by the way, was notorious as being never really supposed to happen outside of the surveying and being a way for Stelmach's ranching buddies to sell the province their land at a premium over a premium.
And on the commercial side of things, well, I'm well aware of the scramble that's come around because of our failing infrastructure. Amazing what happens when you don't build things where they're needed. Things like new hospitals to serve growing areas, which, I'm sorry to inform you, are not really rural areas. But do end up serving rural areas, when they end up driving to Edmonton or Calgary when they need the sort of services that need to have things like dedicated lab networks, which can only really exist where there is everyone that has to staff all of those primary and supporting services.
There was a huge thing about the previous PC governments, that that was crony capitalism. I'd never vote for anyone out to destroy the people that built this province. Or their kids, whether they're little gay kids that need a GSA for support or ones trying to fund post-secondary that don't deserve to be paid less for their hard work. Or the health care system, which, interestingly enough, is mostly inefficient because of our incredibly overbuilt rural health care network. It's awesome, because everyone deserves the right to be healthy and not have to be med-evaced everywhere. But I know that if I was looking for something to slash to bring down costs, that would be a pretty tempting cherry. Assuming that it's not outright privatized.
The fact of the matter is is that Alberta succeeded in spite of our governments. And we finally have a premier who's not looking to line their own pockets or reward their friends with sweetheart contracts. And you want to go back to that, because you've got rose coloured glasses on. Well, I sincerely hope that you can afford the consequences, because it's gonna fall on every single person who's not a "job creating" business owner. Things like toll roads (which, interestingly enough, will cost the rural Albertan more than me), public-private partnerships that never work out right but end up enriching shareholders out of the taxpayer's pocket, and catering to the charter schools of faith-supremacist groups at the expense of our public school systems.
But yeah, let's act like the Carbon Tax is the big problem. And that if we axe the provincial one, the federal one won't instantly come into play and take all that money out of the province. Because that's the biggest thing about it, that if we don't have a provincial one in place, the federal one comes in, and it's Ottawa that decides where the funds from that one goes. And it sure won't be Alberta, because that's not efficient at buying votes. Dumping it into BC, or the Maritimes, or Quebec... that's bang for your buck at a federal level. Sure, Trudeau might not be leader next election, but he is now. And that's where he'll dump it. Andrew Scheer, on the other hand, talks a big game about dumping it, but he'll almost certainly be seduced by the idea of a giant slush fund that he can try and shore up support in Ontario with. Why kill the golden goose when you can make omelets, after all? And why spend in Alberta, when Alberta has shown that they'll vote for a blue rock even if a Conservative government changes the equalization formula to funnel even more money to Quebec from Alberta (ask Kenney about that one, after all, he was part of the government that drafted that revision and he voted for it personally).
If you're looking for someone to blame for the devastation, then it's probably best that we all take the late Jim Prentice's advice, and look in the mirror. Because he was right, and it was all our faults for electing Don Getty. And letting Ralph Klein blow up a hospital so he could pay for a cardboard sign. And for letting Ed Stelmach have an entire mandate dictated by backroom party hacks. And for letting Alison Redford live her petro-shiekh fantasies on our dime. At least we showed Prentice what happens when you come down from on high without any real answers. But hey, Jason Kenney totally won't be like the rest. It's not like he started out on the payroll of US lobby groups taking pet issue stances for pay. It's not like he sold out Canadians by rubber stamping TFWs and letting big companies do whatever they want, federally. And it's not like he hasn't come out and said that his platform is going to hurt Albertans (to be fair, that was one of his candidates, and he just didn't refute it).
But yeah, the NDP are the problem for trying to deal with 40 years of mismanagement. So let's get rid of someone competent who's stood up for Albertans because they started in the worst case scenario and has been steadily wAfter all, Rachel Notley won her leadership race fair and square, so obviously she can't be devious enough to drive this province baorking to bring things back to the best of what this province can be. ck into being a dumpster fire, since she didn't have a federal MP's job to get paid not to do while rigging a leadership campaign against rivals.
Also, because I forgot:
THE PREMIER OF ALBERTA DOES NOT SET OIL PRICES.
Which, you know, is one huge reason that we've had problems with revenues besides slashing the tax base. And I do mean YUUUUUUUUUUGE, with a Y, because it comes right out of the supply side handbook.

What a bunch of bull**** you spew.....

Lets get one thing straight....Rachel Notley and the NDP did NOT WIN the leadership race in the last election....the Progressive Conservatives LOST the race. Rachel was just in the right place at the right time.

Where was Deron Bilious (minister of Economic Development& Trade) when the Rockefeller's, etc sabotaged Alberta's most important industry with their "Tar Sands Campaign"?
What Alberta got from your Rachel Notley led NDP government wasn't leadership....we got SILENCE!

To this day, the NDP have not said a peep about the US Funded "Tar Sands Campaign" to land lock Alberta Oil that has brought Alberta to its knees.....SILENCE....that's what we got from you and your NDP hero's.

Letters were delivered with proof of this debilitating campaign against Alberta...what did Rachel do?....NOTHING!.....SILENCE!

There is a big reason why many people hate pipelines...its because of the multi million dollar "Tar Sands Campaign" that has tainted the public with lies and deception....what came from our Premier over this?....NOTHING BUT SILENCE!

Its clear and proven that over a dozen Canadian Environmental organizations received millions from wealthy US donors to target our oil industry....what's the NDP said about this?......nothing but SILENCE!

Energy East Pipeline....Alberta NDP supprt??............none ....SILENCE!

Northern Gateway Pipeline ....Rachel opposed this one....she said there is no point to it....
In fact, our current environment minister Lyin Shannon Phillips picketed along the other protesters against this pipeline. She also appeared at the National Energy Board against the northern gateway pipeline...and Rachel appointed her environment minister....????

Keystone XL Pipeline....Rachel's statement....."we're against it"

They pretty much did nothing in terms of standing up for our oil and gas industry for the first year and a half of their term. Then when the TMX ran into trouble, they realized that their assumed slam dunk was a no-go. Oh oh, we better get off our asses or we won't get re-elected......

Who did Rachel appoint as co-chair of the oil sands advisory group?....Tzeporah Berman....paid activist that is against Alberta Oil!!! This same Tzeporah spoke at the ATA teachers conference and compared the "oilsands to Mordor"...."need to shut down the tar sands"....and Rachel appoints her to the oil sands advisory board......?? Thanks for the support Rachel!

Then, Rachel and her beloved NDP appointed known anti-oil activist Ed Whittingham to the Alberta Energy Regulator board....Whittingham's organization accepted over $2 million from US foundations to attack Alberta oil & gas..... but Rachel thought this is the right person to be on the energy board.....??? .thank your for the support NDP

Our Education Minister David Eggen spoke publicly that "no new oil sands project approvals is the right thing to do".....Thanks NDP for your support

And of course, we shouldn't forget her alliance with our Alberta hating Prime Minister.....selling out Alberta to be in bed with Justin.....Thanks for your support Rachel

The NDP have let Alberta down...PERIOD!! And now you say they're fighting for Alberta?....Bull****!.....they are fighting to stay employed.

 

[Lunch_Box]

I work in oil and gas. I saw first hand what sort of **** the PCs pulled. I saw Jason Kenney's federal handiwork as Immigration Minister at work with unqualified TFWs being brought onto sites and blowing up propane cylinders because they all had faked their qualifications and didn't understand anything. I saw hundreds of people lose their jobs because of poor planning from previous governments. I got a front row seat to incredible ****show that was carbon capture, where the client's engineers were actively talking about what a white elephant carbon capture was, and how it was a giant make work project at the province's expense. I helped build extraction facilities that were slated from the start to funnel our money to the US, extraordinarily blatantly to a Calumet refinery in Montana that was designed solely to profit at the expense of Canadians. I saw the only value-added project at NWR come around because Redford was trying to use it as a Hail Mary to distract people, which, by the way, was notorious as being never really supposed to happen outside of the surveying and being a way for Stelmach's ranching buddies to sell the province their land at a premium over a premium.
And on the commercial side of things, well, I'm well aware of the scramble that's come around because of our failing infrastructure. Amazing what happens when you don't build things where they're needed. Things like new hospitals to serve growing areas, which, I'm sorry to inform you, are not really rural areas. But do end up serving rural areas, when they end up driving to Edmonton or Calgary when they need the sort of services that need to have things like dedicated lab networks, which can only really exist where there is everyone that has to staff all of those primary and supporting services.
There was a huge thing about the previous PC governments, that that was crony capitalism. I'd never vote for anyone out to destroy the people that built this province. Or their kids, whether they're little gay kids that need a GSA for support or ones trying to fund post-secondary that don't deserve to be paid less for their hard work. Or the health care system, which, interestingly enough, is mostly inefficient because of our incredibly overbuilt rural health care network. It's awesome, because everyone deserves the right to be healthy and not have to be med-evaced everywhere. But I know that if I was looking for something to slash to bring down costs, that would be a pretty tempting cherry. Assuming that it's not outright privatized.
The fact of the matter is is that Alberta succeeded in spite of our governments. And we finally have a premier who's not looking to line their own pockets or reward their friends with sweetheart contracts. And you want to go back to that, because you've got rose coloured glasses on. Well, I sincerely hope that you can afford the consequences, because it's gonna fall on every single person who's not a "job creating" business owner. Things like toll roads (which, interestingly enough, will cost the rural Albertan more than me), public-private partnerships that never work out right but end up enriching shareholders out of the taxpayer's pocket, and catering to the charter schools of faith-supremacist groups at the expense of our public school systems.
But yeah, let's act like the Carbon Tax is the big problem. And that if we axe the provincial one, the federal one won't instantly come into play and take all that money out of the province. Because that's the biggest thing about it, that if we don't have a provincial one in place, the federal one comes in, and it's Ottawa that decides where the funds from that one goes. And it sure won't be Alberta, because that's not efficient at buying votes. Dumping it into BC, or the Maritimes, or Quebec... that's bang for your buck at a federal level. Sure, Trudeau might not be leader next election, but he is now. And that's where he'll dump it. Andrew Scheer, on the other hand, talks a big game about dumping it, but he'll almost certainly be seduced by the idea of a giant slush fund that he can try and shore up support in Ontario with. Why kill the golden goose when you can make omelets, after all? And why spend in Alberta, when Alberta has shown that they'll vote for a blue rock even if a Conservative government changes the equalization formula to funnel even more money to Quebec from Alberta (ask Kenney about that one, after all, he was part of the government that drafted that revision and he voted for it personally).
If you're looking for someone to blame for the devastation, then it's probably best that we all take the late Jim Prentice's advice, and look in the mirror. Because he was right, and it was all our faults for electing Don Getty. And letting Ralph Klein blow up a hospital so he could pay for a cardboard sign. And for letting Ed Stelmach have an entire mandate dictated by backroom party hacks. And for letting Alison Redford live her petro-shiekh fantasies on our dime. At least we showed Prentice what happens when you come down from on high without any real answers. But hey, Jason Kenney totally won't be like the rest. It's not like he started out on the payroll of US lobby groups taking pet issue stances for pay. It's not like he sold out Canadians by rubber stamping TFWs and letting big companies do whatever they want, federally. And it's not like he hasn't come out and said that his platform is going to hurt Albertans (to be fair, that was one of his candidates, and he just didn't refute it).
But yeah, the NDP are the problem for trying to deal with 40 years of mismanagement. So let's get rid of someone competent who's stood up for Albertans because they started in the worst case scenario and has been steadily working to bring things back to the best of what this province can be. After all, Rachel Notley won her leadership race fair and square, so obviously she can't be devious enough to drive this province back into being a dumpster fire, since she didn't have a federal MP's job to get paid not to do while rigging a leadership campaign against rivals.
Also, because I forgot:
THE PREMIER OF ALBERTA DOES NOT SET OIL PRICES.
Which, you know, is one huge reason that we've had problems with revenues besides slashing the tax base. And I do mean YUUUUUUUUUUGE, with a Y, because it comes right out of the supply side handbook.

I knew I had seen this on Facebook, my NDP loving cousin shared it. Here is the one post wonder.

https://www.facebook.com/sterling.m...PrtG00yBgyenNJyEMxU9X1dMNWXfWmuj-Sv_g&fref=nf

 

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I work in oil and gas. I saw first hand what sort of **** the PCs pulled. I saw Jason Kenney's federal handiwork as Immigration Minister at work with unqualified TFWs being brought onto sites and blowing up propane cylinders because they all had faked their qualifications and didn't understand anything. I saw hundreds of people lose their jobs because of poor planning from previous governments. I got a front row seat to incredible ****show that was carbon capture, where the client's engineers were actively talking about what a white elephant carbon capture was, and how it was a giant make work project at the province's expense. I helped build extraction facilities that were slated from the start to funnel our money to the US, extraordinarily blatantly to a Calumet refinery in Montana that was designed solely to profit at the expense of Canadians. I saw the only value-added project at NWR come around because Redford was trying to use it as a Hail Mary to distract people, which, by the way, was notorious as being never really supposed to happen outside of the surveying and being a way for Stelmach's ranching buddies to sell the province their land at a premium over a premium.
And on the commercial side of things, well, I'm well aware of the scramble that's come around because of our failing infrastructure. Amazing what happens when you don't build things where they're needed. Things like new hospitals to serve growing areas, which, I'm sorry to inform you, are not really rural areas. But do end up serving rural areas, when they end up driving to Edmonton or Calgary when they need the sort of services that need to have things like dedicated lab networks, which can only really exist where there is everyone that has to staff all of those primary and supporting services.
There was a huge thing about the previous PC governments, that that was crony capitalism. I'd never vote for anyone out to destroy the people that built this province. Or their kids, whether they're little gay kids that need a GSA for support or ones trying to fund post-secondary that don't deserve to be paid less for their hard work. Or the health care system, which, interestingly enough, is mostly inefficient because of our incredibly overbuilt rural health care network. It's awesome, because everyone deserves the right to be healthy and not have to be med-evaced everywhere. But I know that if I was looking for something to slash to bring down costs, that would be a pretty tempting cherry. Assuming that it's not outright privatized.
The fact of the matter is is that Alberta succeeded in spite of our governments. And we finally have a premier who's not looking to line their own pockets or reward their friends with sweetheart contracts. And you want to go back to that, because you've got rose coloured glasses on. Well, I sincerely hope that you can afford the consequences, because it's gonna fall on every single person who's not a "job creating" business owner. Things like toll roads (which, interestingly enough, will cost the rural Albertan more than me), public-private partnerships that never work out right but end up enriching shareholders out of the taxpayer's pocket, and catering to the charter schools of faith-supremacist groups at the expense of our public school systems.
But yeah, let's act like the Carbon Tax is the big problem. And that if we axe the provincial one, the federal one won't instantly come into play and take all that money out of the province. Because that's the biggest thing about it, that if we don't have a provincial one in place, the federal one comes in, and it's Ottawa that decides where the funds from that one goes. And it sure won't be Alberta, because that's not efficient at buying votes. Dumping it into BC, or the Maritimes, or Quebec... that's bang for your buck at a federal level. Sure, Trudeau might not be leader next election, but he is now. And that's where he'll dump it. Andrew Scheer, on the other hand, talks a big game about dumping it, but he'll almost certainly be seduced by the idea of a giant slush fund that he can try and shore up support in Ontario with. Why kill the golden goose when you can make omelets, after all? And why spend in Alberta, when Alberta has shown that they'll vote for a blue rock even if a Conservative government changes the equalization formula to funnel even more money to Quebec from Alberta (ask Kenney about that one, after all, he was part of the government that drafted that revision and he voted for it personally).
If you're looking for someone to blame for the devastation, then it's probably best that we all take the late Jim Prentice's advice, and look in the mirror. Because he was right, and it was all our faults for electing Don Getty. And letting Ralph Klein blow up a hospital so he could pay for a cardboard sign. And for letting Ed Stelmach have an entire mandate dictated by backroom party hacks. And for letting Alison Redford live her petro-shiekh fantasies on our dime. At least we showed Prentice what happens when you come down from on high without any real answers. But hey, Jason Kenney totally won't be like the rest. It's not like he started out on the payroll of US lobby groups taking pet issue stances for pay. It's not like he sold out Canadians by rubber stamping TFWs and letting big companies do whatever they want, federally. And it's not like he hasn't come out and said that his platform is going to hurt Albertans (to be fair, that was one of his candidates, and he just didn't refute it).
But yeah, the NDP are the problem for trying to deal with 40 years of mismanagement. So let's get rid of someone competent who's stood up for Albertans because they started in the worst case scenario and has been steadily working to bring things back to the best of what this province can be. After all, Rachel Notley won her leadership race fair and square, so obviously she can't be devious enough to drive this province back into being a dumpster fire, since she didn't have a federal MP's job to get paid not to do while rigging a leadership campaign against rivals.
Also, because I forgot:
THE PREMIER OF ALBERTA DOES NOT SET OIL PRICES.
Which, you know, is one huge reason that we've had problems with revenues besides slashing the tax base. And I do mean YUUUUUUUUUUGE, with a Y, because it comes right out of the supply side handbook.

Knothead is that you?
F....off you twit