Valemount Petro Canada Fuel Issues

[Etech 800]

Headed up sledding Dec 6th to Blue River. There was 3 of us. 2 Of us filled out sleds at home and the 3rdguy filled his 2016 M8 with premium at this Petro. Had issues with M8 in blue river. Fuel line froze.lesson learned, carry methyl hydrate on hand,will not be getting fuel from there.

 

[tmo1620]

Fuel from anywhere but Shell is a waste of time for the cat 800, have had trouble with esso and petro plenty but never had issues with v power from shell

 

[jerry]

shell and superstore and coop only no 1 fuel with no ethanol with should not be used in sleds

 

[Andrew.renegade1000]

I've never had an issue with the petro fuel


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[adamg]

shell and superstore and coop only no 1 fuel with no ethanol with should not be used in sleds

Say again?

 

[Summitizer]

isopropyl alcohol not methyl hydrate.......every sled with fuel injection should be adding it in cold deep snow.......just a cap full is all you need...

 

[LBZ]

Always carry a little gas line AF. If anything it makes good fire starter in an emergency.

 

[tex78]

Headed up sledding Dec 6th to Blue River. There was 3 of us. 2 Of us filled out sleds at home and the 3rdguy filled his 2016 M8 with premium at this Petro. Had issues with M8 in blue river. Fuel line froze.lesson learned, carry methyl hydrate on hand,will not be getting fuel from there.

Do not use methyl hydrate, will separate the oil from gas in bearings and cylinder walls

Isopropal alcohol for 2 smoke sleds or sea foam for water in gas

sent while drinking tea's

 

[Dirtmover]

So the sled that was low on gas in a heated garage was put on a truck and hauled up the cold highway before it was filled with gas?

 

[teeroy]

So the sled that was low on gas in a heated garage was put on a truck and hauled up the cold highway before it was filled with gas?

so what would that do other than freeze any water that may have been in the tank inside the heated garage? you do know condensation forms when you bring the sled INTO the heated garage after being on the cold highway...right?

great first post. welcome aboard

 

[pete gads]

I keep my sleds in heated garage all the time. Fill it up with fuel from superstore always, in side then pull out of garage and load it. Never have had trouble.

 

[Dirtmover]

I didn't mean to get off on the wrong foot first post n all.

I was just making sure I understood the issue.

Cooling air will cause moisture in the air to condense and form droplets which fall down to the bottom of the tank. If ethonal is present it will bond with the water and separate out, preventing the water from freezing at zero degrees. If the water content gets higher than the ethonal content (typically 10%) the pure water will form a third layer at the bottom of the tank and it does freeze. When the sled is parked in a heated garage the air inside the tank is cooler than the outside. Water condenses inside the tank pretty fast. Left to sit for a while the temps inside the tank equalize, then when it cools slightly it sucks in some fresh air, then it warms a degree or to and expels air. A few cycles like this and throw it on a cold truck deck for a few hours and wham, water problems.

Filling the sled after riding prevents air from being in the tank. No air means no water. Park in heated garage all you want then.

 

[johnnytrail]

Ethanol in not good in 2 stroke or small carburated engines . Just my 2 cents

 

[Mike270412]

https://seafoamsales.com/sea-foam-motor-treatment/

I put that chit in everything!

 

[FastFarmer]

https://seafoamsales.com/sea-foam-motor-treatment/

I put that chit in everything!

Is this ok with VP fuels too? I couldn't get the link to open..

 

[teeroy]

https://seafoamsales.com/sea-foam-motor-treatment/

I put that chit in everything!

FFS mike. I made you this meme in the last seafoam thread, and you still don't use it? why do I even bother *sigh*

 

[Mike270412]

Thanks T. I don't remember seeing that. Got it saved now!

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[crossfire879]

I've never had a problem with the 94 octane from petro there. all I've ever owned since 08 was cats. at home I usually still use petro or esso. maybe I should try shell and see if I notice a difference.

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[Bambino840]

shell and superstore and coop only no 1 fuel with no ethanol with should not be used in sleds

Federated coop fuel in Alberta comes from the petro can refinery unless coop trucks from Sask.Petro can in sask comes from coop. Same fuel.shell is shell, its there own.superstore I'm not sure about.

 

[Hotwheels81]

Filled both sleds with 94 at the Petro this morning and half a can of seafoam each... No problems.