Octane
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what if its a short cop?
Trucks with lift kits
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what if its a short cop?
island rider
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sledneck_03
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i have a stock 1500 new body style gmc, and i get flashed ALL THE TIME. i didnt adjust the headlights i dont have a leveling kit nothing.........the lights are super bright i never use my brights. i do use my brights for deer because the light up both ditches too.
its really funny when i flash my brights back when they flash me, because you think my lights are bright now haha BAM brights. and they are usually in some ch!t old car.
what the hell are people pet peeves about fog lights on? the only light up 20 some feet they dont bother me at all. it makes the truck look better with them on
its really funny when i flash my brights back when they flash me, because you think my lights are bright now haha BAM brights. and they are usually in some ch!t old car.
what the hell are people pet peeves about fog lights on? the only light up 20 some feet they dont bother me at all. it makes the truck look better with them on
LID
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Then he's probably 6foot9 of attitude.
pano-dude
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Yep, because I got flashed while stock all the time, I get flashed all the time in my dads stock 07 to. People are just stupid and don't know they aren't brights. It is just people in low cars that do it. Not my fault they are riding on the ground. Mine are adjusted a tiny bit higher because I can see better, they don't flash people bad I know that for a fact, and my rear end doesn't sag with a load to change it. Getting flashed doesn't really bother me it just shows how dumb the person is that they can't tell the difference, I am only weeks away from having 7 driving lights on a switch, flash away! :d
Where is there a law on how your headlights should be adjusted? Mine are adjusted to see the road the best.
And people with a gripe on fogs, I use mine like my high beams because they light up the ditches much better, off on a 2 lane when meeting traffic or coming up behind people. I see no problem with it and don't care if people think they are for "fog only". Also commonly called running lights for a reason
that's right every one else is dumb
2003Summit
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This might help people understand why we all have so many problems with vehicle head lamps in north america.
One of the big problems here (some others may have heard me rant on this before), is that DOT in the US and Industry Canada require all vehicle head lamps to "scatter" a certain percentage of light. This is why the glass (either the front glass or the reflector), has all kinds of bends and bumps and is not smooth. It is of course easily possible (even trivial) to design lights the way we want but it's now what our government wants.
The reason the light has to be scattered is for lighting up road sings. Our transportation system expects (counts on) the vehicles to light up the reflective signs with their own light. So any type of lamp that does not do this "scattering" of light is illegal for sale/use on the road. The result is there are almost no lights available that do not do this - as you all know.
This creates the following problems: when head light technology gets too bright, they still have to scatter the SAME percentage of light as a 1970 light, and now that scattered light is way too bright and blinds everyone, but if it has only a 55w blub, it's still legal even if it's 5 times brighter. If it was designed to just put light on the road, where you wanted it and not in peoples eyes, it would not be compliant.
So now we get fog lights that light up the fog/snow instead of the road (completely in-effective), and driving lights that don't light the road well enough so people get crazy big ones, and oem lights that are blinding everyone.
In Europe and other countries they have much more effective lighting. Many other countries also have allowances for much higher wattage bulbs and less scatter light, the result is the road is very well lit up and no one is pissed off. Just what we wanted in the first place. I was in Australia last year and could not believe how well the standard run-of-the-mill car would light up the road, to me it was like they were running 110W bulbs, and now one was bothered by it at all. I noticed the head lamps had way less bumps and lumps in the lenses - so they had higher wattage bulbs with less scatter light - way better.
Actually just extra interesting bit on this, in some places in Europe it is illegal to scatter any light in certain cities. They consider it light pollution. All the signs have their own lighting and even the street lamps are very precise and only light the road. The vehicles make almost no light beyond a few feet and there is a city and hi way position on the head light switch for different lighting options.
Thank our governments for being behind the times.
Unfortunately people have to be aware that OEM and after market lamps are getting very bright now and there is a lot of scatter light. I know I cannot drive my dodge with both the head lamps and so called fog lamps on as it is way too bright for on-coming vehicles. I with I could just get lights that did what they were supposed to but I cannot - other are blinded and I still cant see the road well enough.
And of course, modifications to vehicles can make these problems worse as we all know.
One of the big problems here (some others may have heard me rant on this before), is that DOT in the US and Industry Canada require all vehicle head lamps to "scatter" a certain percentage of light. This is why the glass (either the front glass or the reflector), has all kinds of bends and bumps and is not smooth. It is of course easily possible (even trivial) to design lights the way we want but it's now what our government wants.
The reason the light has to be scattered is for lighting up road sings. Our transportation system expects (counts on) the vehicles to light up the reflective signs with their own light. So any type of lamp that does not do this "scattering" of light is illegal for sale/use on the road. The result is there are almost no lights available that do not do this - as you all know.
This creates the following problems: when head light technology gets too bright, they still have to scatter the SAME percentage of light as a 1970 light, and now that scattered light is way too bright and blinds everyone, but if it has only a 55w blub, it's still legal even if it's 5 times brighter. If it was designed to just put light on the road, where you wanted it and not in peoples eyes, it would not be compliant.
So now we get fog lights that light up the fog/snow instead of the road (completely in-effective), and driving lights that don't light the road well enough so people get crazy big ones, and oem lights that are blinding everyone.
In Europe and other countries they have much more effective lighting. Many other countries also have allowances for much higher wattage bulbs and less scatter light, the result is the road is very well lit up and no one is pissed off. Just what we wanted in the first place. I was in Australia last year and could not believe how well the standard run-of-the-mill car would light up the road, to me it was like they were running 110W bulbs, and now one was bothered by it at all. I noticed the head lamps had way less bumps and lumps in the lenses - so they had higher wattage bulbs with less scatter light - way better.
Actually just extra interesting bit on this, in some places in Europe it is illegal to scatter any light in certain cities. They consider it light pollution. All the signs have their own lighting and even the street lamps are very precise and only light the road. The vehicles make almost no light beyond a few feet and there is a city and hi way position on the head light switch for different lighting options.
Thank our governments for being behind the times.
Unfortunately people have to be aware that OEM and after market lamps are getting very bright now and there is a lot of scatter light. I know I cannot drive my dodge with both the head lamps and so called fog lamps on as it is way too bright for on-coming vehicles. I with I could just get lights that did what they were supposed to but I cannot - other are blinded and I still cant see the road well enough.
And of course, modifications to vehicles can make these problems worse as we all know.
spikeydave
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I have a 2006 dodge with a 4" lift and get beamed all the time, I went to adjust my lights and found no up/down adjustment just toe in and out. Went to the dealer and was told with the new projections they eliminated the up/down and if I wanted to I would have to add washers and try to align them myself. Unfortunately I have not done anything yet as I hate to have to put a washer system in and have my lights loosen up and be no good.
kenvb
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back up from a wall on level ground 25 ft and adjust the low beam so its just above your knees, or wifes, or use a tape measure and mark the wall ?
or take to dealer and have them do it for $100 plus shop supplies plus tax plus plus plus ...
or take to dealer and have them do it for $100 plus shop supplies plus tax plus plus plus ...
Mike270412
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shoppingcart111
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I call B.S., check for yourself, my NBS gm says L TO R on the adjusters but they actually move the lense up and down.
spikeydave
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My 06 Dodge they are adjustable
Do you have 1 adjustment screw or 2? I have one and it says left to right? I have talked to 2 Dodge shops and they tell me it only moves the light left to right. Trust me if I can move the lens down I will, not only will it illuminate the road better it may help the oncoming traffic and I won't get beamed all the time.
Mike270412
Golden Boy
I'll have to look.Not sure theres any letters by the screw.Open the hood and to the grill side of both lights is a torx (20?)adjusting screw.Just turn that and lights go up or down.Parked in front of garage door or on a dark country road takes about 30 seconds to adjust then a quick test drive to see if you done good.:d
Yep mine is an 04 easy to adjust the headlights.
ajay
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It is law to keep the bumpers height restricted as not to cause damages and injuries to other vehicles and people and they don't inforce that yet,,,but I heard changes are comin..
Ouote from Alberta highway traffic act:
Height of bumpers
63(1) No person shall alter a passenger car so that the main
structural component of a bumper is more than 50 centimetres or
less than 40 centimetres above ground level when the passenger car
is unloaded.
(2) A bumper that has at least 6.25 centimetres of projected
vertical facing within the height restriction referred to in subsection
(1) when viewed in elevation is deemed to comply with that
subsection.
(3) For the purpose of subsections (1) and (2), components that are
commonly known as bumperettes or overriders are not part of the
main structural component of a bumper or of the projected vertical
facing.
(4) Subsection (1) does not apply to passenger cars manufactured
before April 1, 1976 but no person shall alter such a car so that the
bumper is more than 10 centimetres higher or lower than it was at
the time the car was manufactured.
Ajay
Sure is tough to find out which law you should follow. I SWORE I saw it written that said there was no bumper height law, but the middle of your headlight must be under 50 inches I believe it was? 20" of bumper strength height is sure low! I bet most trucks stock gotta be 16" or so.
pwdrhnd
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as for after market lights on top of your truck or on the bumper, it is illegal to drive with them uncovered, let alone turned on, unless you are off road. I had a buddy get a ticket for this in McBride a few years back.
Had the lights uncovered on the roll bar - not even on - and got ticketed. To many lights, off road lights and mounted to high for street use were the reasons given to me by the RCMP officer.
I use air bags now to addjust load hieght and never have to adjust head lights up or down. Way better handling and way less brights in MY eyes.
I use air bags now to addjust load hieght and never have to adjust head lights up or down. Way better handling and way less brights in MY eyes.
ajay
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Its the subsection 4 that friend of mine got ticketed for and had to lower the bumpers to be in compliance. The rcmp told him if a car skided into the back of him there would be serious injuries to the smaller vehicle and occupants, he had a lift which put bumpers at about 46 inches from the ground, looked good but not for highway use. He lowered it some and dropped bumpers.
Ajay
powder junkie
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yup bumper heights are a law. seen couple guys get warnings wit their lift trucks around here. the cops just hand out the warnings when they cant find sumthn else to complain about lol. and after market add-on lights must have covers on them cuz u could flick them on and blind on coming traffic i guess. just about nethn u do to a vehicle some how falls into a law against it, it seems lol.
Yep, but most cops don't got a stick up their a$$ and don't worry about it. I keep my reciever in, so if I get rear ended that will catch them Far as i'm concerned, they should be just if not more worried about the ricers 2" off the ground, because semi bumpers are still high. Which I don't get, why can a semi have a bumper higher then a pickup truck? Something different if a car hits them?
Just another way to give out tickets and control people, the bumper law is NOT for safety, I don't care what anyone says.
Far as i'm concerned, they should be just if not more worried about the ricers 2" off the ground, because semi bumpers are still high. Which I don't get, why can a semi have a bumper higher then a pickup truck? Something different if a car hits them? Just another way to give out tickets and control people, the bumper law is NOT for safety, I don't care what anyone says.
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