tomahawks on syria

[LID]

Makes no sense. Syria, with Russia's help, was winning. They were beating back their enemies (rebels, freedom fighters, terrorists, whatever you want to call them).
It would make no sense at all to do a chemical attack because that would create a reason for the World Police to move in.

Makes no sense at all.

 

[snopro]

Makes no sense. Syria, with Russia's help, was winning. They were beating back their enemies (rebels, freedom fighters, terrorists, whatever you want to call them).
It would make no sense at all to do a chemical attack because that would create a reason for the World Police to move in.

Makes no sense at all.

Does he look like a guy that makes sense? He has done it before is all we need to know. A leopard doesn't change its spots.

 

[turbo392]

I had read early on about the initial air strike hitting a warehouse stockpiled with chemical weapons and materials. That report disappeared when all the neighbors started dying and the government decided to call
it a chemical weapons attack. My guess someone f*cked up and didn't want to take responsibility. Really can't believe a single f*cking thing from any government.

 

[snopro]

I had read early on about the initial air strike hitting a warehouse stockpiled with chemical weapons and materials. That report disappeared when all the neighbors started dying and the government decided to call
it a chemical weapons attack. My guess someone f*cked up and didn't want to take responsibility. Really can't believe a single f*cking thing from any government.

What site do you follow? There are not supposed to be any chemical weapons in Syria in Assad's hands since 2013? The Russians were supposed to make that happen. I have a hard time believing Putin or Assad over Trump who has said previously he didn't want to even be in Syria at all but inherited this mess from the previous government. When you gas kids the world needs to intervene. That is the only point here.

 

[imdoo'n]

and like a chess match, we now sit and wait for the next move! who will blink first.

 

[adamg]

Makes no sense. Syria, with Russia's help, was winning. They were beating back their enemies (rebels, freedom fighters, terrorists, whatever you want to call them).
It would make no sense at all to do a chemical attack because that would create a reason for the World Police to move in.

Makes no sense at all.

This is my thought as well. Assad had been pretty cunning in how he maximized his tyranny while avoiding any strong external intervention - in fact he even got Russia to prop him up! My understanding was that he had more or less defeated the rebellion, so why he would suddenly go for some overkill and risk external intervention again is hard to figure.

 

[adamg]

What site do you follow? There are not supposed to be any chemical weapons in Syria in Assad's hands since 2013? The Russians were supposed to make that happen. I have a hard time believing Putin or Assad over Trump who has said previously he didn't want to even be in Syria at all but inherited this mess from the previous government. When you gas kids the world needs to intervene. That is the only point here.

But starving and bombing them is OK, snopro? No one cares (enough to do anything) about these two things on hundreds of thousands of civilians (many of them kids) but kill a couple hundred people with _gasp_ chemical weapons and everything changes. Personally I fail to see what changed.

 

[raceu4it]

Kenny you said you had a lot more in common with Trump then I do with a shiny pony. I didn't notice your hair or that Trump drove a Ford with a Ski-doo in the back!!

 

[rzrgade]

Had Obama actually stood up to Putin , as he said he would we would not be having this discussion...
The weakness of the Obama administration is coming back to haunt us now as I predicted it would years ago ...
This is not trumps fault , when you are as power full as the US was and you knuckle under to countries run by terrorists ( Iran Libya etc )and make concessions & deals with our enemies ..
You are in trouble !
This rests on obamas shoulders / no one else ...


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[eclipse1966]

um Obama did seek to launch tomahawks missiles against Syria but the Republicans blocked him including the ones who are praising Trumps decision. What is the difference now? The difference is the republicans (Trump) made the decision without seeking Congress approval. So, in my point of view, we have a dire situation in Syria where innocent lives are taken and the US is still playing internal politics amongst themselves and in a larger scale internationally.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/us/politics/syria-bombing-republicans-trump.html

 

[slededjr]

2013 was a little different. Nobody was really sure what the outcome would have been had Obama used Tomahawks or other weapons. So they come up with a plan which that administration said worked and "All" chemical weapons have been removed. Then why the hell are chemical weapons still there? Some folks are saying that it was a warehouse storing the chemicals that was struck and not an attack. Again, if all Chema were removed that wouldn't have happened either. Trump is a goof but Killary and Obumer are Effin liars. Watch the **** show unfold as the days come. It's gonna be ugly.


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[rzrgade]

um Obama did seek to launch tomahawks missiles against Syria but the Republicans blocked him including the ones who are praising Trumps decision. What is the difference now? The difference is the republicans (Trump) made the decision without seeking Congress approval. So, in my point of view, we have a dire situation in Syria where innocent lives are taken and the US is still playing internal politics amongst themselves and in a larger scale internationally.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/us/politics/syria-bombing-republicans-trump.html

Obama had as musch intention of launching missiles as I do as in voting for JT and knotley in the next election ..
What really happened is , Putin called obamas bluff ... and he folded like a can tire lawn chair ....
If you believe otherwise ... you need a new source .
Not to mention trusting the Russians to disarm Syria & paying billions to Iran .

Real great Obama ....
Btw our leader is taking us down the same path . When Harper said we don't cut and run , you could trust him ...
Not so much with JT anymore ..


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[slededjr]

Hahaha


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[LID]

Those guys are working every angle to get a real war started with Russia

Didn't work in Libya, didn't work in Ukraine. They don't want to miss this opportunity

 

[snopro]

Those guys are working every angle to get a real war started with Russia

Didn't work in Libya, didn't work in Ukraine. They don't want to miss this opportunity

You really think the US wants to go to war with Russia?? Lmao! Who wins? Lets just say for chIts and giggles the US does. Whats left after the war? Everything will look like Aleppo in both countries. And then China swoops in for world domination. You ever play the game Battleship. Your just got sunk with that thinking.

 

[snopro]

But starving and bombing them is OK, snopro? No one cares (enough to do anything) about these two things on hundreds of thousands of civilians (many of them kids) but kill a couple hundred people with _gasp_ chemical weapons and everything changes. Personally I fail to see what changed.

Nothing is OK adam but chem weapons are viewed as war crimes by the Worlds leaders in general. There is no good way to die but that way is a horrid way. You found that didn't bother you at all after seeing the video? Small children gasping for air with their eyes rolling back in their heads wasn't distasteful? Jesus.

 

[LID]

You really think the US wants to go to war with Russia?? Lmao! Who wins? Lets just say for chIts and giggles the US does. Whats left after the war? Everything will look like Aleppo in both countries. And then China swoops in for world domination. You ever play the game Battleship. Your just got sunk with that thinking.

Yeah, maybe all out war is going a bit too far, but both sides seem to be reeeealy toeing the line of all out war in the name of either keeping their guy in charge, or trying every angle to overthrow the guy

 

[snopro]

Be interesting to see how many refugee's the Russians have taken in considering they are such great allies of the Syrians? Or did I read somewhere that Putin doesn't want any Islamists in his country? I guess they could go to Iran then, another strong ally? Thats probably not happening either. The west has done more for Syria than anyone else when you think of it, providing aid, refuge from the war, training and weapons to the rebels and killing ISIS members. Yet the Syrian Government hates the west. Assad has to go, plain and simple. Just like Saddam and Kadafhi.

 

[snopro]

Yeah, maybe all out war is going a bit too far, but both sides seem to be reeeealy toeing the line of all out war in the name of either keeping their guy in charge, or trying every angle to overthrow the guy

Its like 2 Championship boxers strutting and acting all Alpha male. They both know both are gonna take a beating if they go at it. Hussein thought he was top tier back in the day. He went from the 4th largest mechanized army in the world to the 27th in a 3 week span taking on the Americans in Desert Storm. You can learn a lot from that lesson.

 

[adamg]

Obama had as musch intention of launching missiles as I do as in voting for JT and knotley in the next election ..
What really happened is , Putin called obamas bluff ... and he folded like a can tire lawn chair ....
If you believe otherwise ... you need a new source .
Not to mention trusting the Russians to disarm Syria & paying billions to Iran .

Real great Obama ....
Btw our leader is taking us down the same path . When Harper said we don't cut and run , you could trust him ...
Not so much with JT anymore ..


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The show 60 Minutes did a long interview with Obama early this year. They quizzed him on why he didn't keep his word and he didn't have a real answer. I think if he had a legit answer, such as some branch of the government blocking him, he would have used it. I just re-read the transcript and his answer can't even be called an excuse, he doesn't even try to defend not keeping his word.
Transcript (search for Assad or "red line" within, it's about half way down):
Barack Obama: Eight Years in the White House - 60 Minutes - CBS News