Thoughts on Iraq?

[snopro]

Its definately a messy business. I think I would rather fight a people that want to irradicate us off the planet on their home turf instead of ours. Let them wade through the mess when its all over.

 

[JMCX]

Memories are just too long over there. Even if you keep a lid on things for a generation they won't let the past be.

If you let a side win, what's left of the losers will blame the west and go all jihady on us.

 

[d mills]

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[adamg]

I think this is the natural course for that country. If there's one lesson from the last 10 years it is that the Western countries can't force these completely different societies to live and behave like a Western country. It makes zero sense to try to force people who hate another group of people to live in the same country under one government. And more importantly it doesn't result in a stable, peaceful nation. So let them segregate into their own groups and regions and draw up new countries so they can live under a government that feels like their own.

 

[snopro]

I agree in part with what you have said Adam but it appears the folks that want to take over don't want to recognize borders or religions. They want to steam roll over everything forcing there beliefs on everyone with terror.

 

[d mills]

I agree in part with what you have said Adam but it appears the folks that want to take over don't want to recognize borders or religions. They want to steam roll over everything forcing there beliefs on everyone with terror.

Here's a email I got titled " tolerance". Seems to fit with your post ken.





Higgs McDonald, NHL Hall of Fame broadcaster speaking in Ontario, says. "I am truly perplexed that so many of my friends are against another mosque being built in Toronto . I think it should be the goal of every Canadian to be tolerant regardless of their religious beliefs. Thus the mosque should be allowed, in an effort to promote tolerance.
That is why I also propose that two nightclubs be opened next door to the mosque, thereby promoting tolerance from within the mosque. We could call one of the clubs, which would be gay, "The Turban Cowboy," and the other a topless bar called "You Mecca Me Hot." Next door should be a butcher shop that specializes in pork, and adjacent to that an open-pit barbecue pork restaurant, called " Iraq of Ribs."

Across the street there could be a lingerie store called " Victoria Keeps Nothing Secret," with sexy mannequins in the window modeling the goods. Next door to the lingerie shop there would be room for an adult sex toy shop , "Koranal Knowledge," its name in flashing neon lights, and on the other side a liquor store called "Morehammered."

All of this would encourage Muslims to demonstrate the tolerance they demand of us, so their mosque issue would not be a problem for others. Yes, we should promote tolerance, and you can do your part by passing this on. And if you are not laughing or smiling at this point... It is either past your bedtime, or it's midnight at the oasis and time to put your camel to bed!!!!

 

[adamg]

I agree in part with what you have said Adam but it appears the folks that want to take over don't want to recognize borders or religions. They want to steam roll over everything forcing there beliefs on everyone with terror.

That may be the case. I don't spend much time consuming the news.

 

[d mills]

I think this is the natural course for that country. If there's one lesson from the last 10 years it is that the Western countries can't force these completely different societies to live and behave like a Western country. It makes zero sense to try to force people who hate another group of people to live in the same country under one government. And more importantly it doesn't result in a stable, peaceful nation. So let them segregate into their own groups and regions and draw up new countries so they can live under a government that feels like their own.

That may be the case. I don't spend much time consuming the news.

So you're in the armed forces? Or a field correspondent? Or a national?

 

[snopro]

So the Calgary Sun dedicated a page to these ISIS dudes today. Apparently the leader was the Iraqi Al Qaida leader up to 2010 when he branched off and started this new group. He is now the most powerful jihadi leader in the world with the group worth 2 billion dollars with there recent heist of $450 million from an Iraqi bank recently. They have seized planes, heavy weapons, helicopters, humvee's, and body armor and uniforms from the Iraqi military that abandoned there posts. They were kicked out of Al Qaida for being to "violent" and want to redraw up borders in the Middle East to create there own Islamic State. They believe they should be the only ones possessing guns, women should be concealed and not allowed outside unless necessary and all shrines, graveyards and monuments be destroyed. They currently hold most of Iraq now except the Baghdad area. I say they need to go away with some persuasion....

 

[d mills]

So the Calgary Sun dedicated a page to these ISIS dudes today. Apparently the leader was the Iraqi Al Qaida leader up to 2010 when he branched off and started this new group. He is now the most powerful jihadi leader in the world with the group worth 2 billion dollars with there recent heist of $450 million from an Iraqi bank recently. They have seized planes, heavy weapons, helicopters, humvee's, and body armor and uniforms from the Iraqi military that abandoned there posts. They were kicked out of Al Qaida for being to "violent" and want to redraw up borders in the Middle East to create there own Islamic State. They believe they should be the only ones possessing guns, women should be concealed and not allowed outside unless necessary and all shrines, graveyards and monuments be destroyed. They currently hold most of Iraq now except the Baghdad area. I say they need to go away with some persuasion....

Might be harsh to say considering the civilian casualties but nuke em'. Phuck around for decades with soldiers lives from the west who have no business there in the first place.......or give the civilians warning some how and pull the trigger. Easy for me to say without my finger on the button and no lives in my hands but the only way you won this war is with fear or the irradiacation of an entire ideology.

 

[sledneck_03]

Not a tough call at all. I say stay the hell out of the Middle East. They been fighting for thousands of years and will continue to do so. Let them sort out their pecking order on their own.

Im not religious but it says in the bible the middle east will fight forever or something like that.

Id say get the hell out of there.

 

[d mills]

Im not religious but it says in the bible the middle east will fight forever or something like that.

Id say get the hell out of there.

It says in the Koran that if you take a human life it is as if you killed all of mankind....,,but if you save a life it is as if you have saved all of mankind.......easy principal to exploit.

 

[rzrgade]

Seems to me if they spent as much time" working" as burning flags,pitchin shoes,chanting, and shooting AK`s in the air........they would all be a lot better off....................

 

[d mills]

Seems to me if they spent as much time" working" as burning flags,pitchin shoes,chanting, and shooting AK`s in the air........they would all be a lot better off....................

It just won't happen. If we are going to exist on a global scale there won't be peace without a decisive winner. I do not want any person to die. But if it's "them" or " us" their is only one decision. About a thousand years ago there was radical Christians from foreign lands that attacked Muslims/the holy land. The Christians fell. Now in recent times the Muslims (extremist) potentially attack ours. 1000 years ago they used the biggest stick available to repel them. In modern times why should we do any less? I think the holy war (which started Christian) forgets about ICBM's with nuclear warheads. A display of power is needed or a surgical irradiacation of all those who oppose as western life. (Not American they're gun toting idiots).

 

[pistoncontracting]

I say they need to go away with some persuasion....

Agree, but nearly impossible to do humanly.

There is quite a bit more to all of this then what the mainstream is telling people, as per normal.

The infamous WMD's did in fact exist, but were tucked safely away in Syria. As crazy as Saddam was, he did seem to keep some... control over the region, but just didn't seem to want to play ball with the west.

I think the fear most have with the middle east, is that it was bound to spill over to us sooner or later. That is why we simply can't let them battle each other.
I'm just not sure why we can't empower Israel more then we do.

One thing is for sure though, as long as they continue to drop bombs followed by care packages in the same areas with the same plane, they will never defeat the enemy. The west plays by a different set of rules... and the others use it to there advantage.

These modern day democrats could really look to the past for some advice. What they need is another 'Fat man' and 'Little boy' to get the job done once and for all. At least put them back into the stone age, since it seems they now have quite a collection of modern day boom sticks.

 

[d mills]

Agree, but nearly impossible to do humanly.

There is quite a bit more to all of this then what the mainstream is telling people, as per normal.

The infamous WMD's did in fact exist, but were tucked safely away in Syria. As crazy as Saddam was, he did seem to keep some... control over the region, but just didn't seem to want to play ball with the west.

I think the fear most have with the middle east, is that it was bound to spill over to us sooner or later. That is why we simply can't let them battle each other.
I'm just not sure why we can't empower Israel more then we do.

One thing is for sure though, as long as they continue to drop bombs followed by care packages in the same areas with the same plane, they will never defeat the enemy. The west plays by a different set of rules... and the others use it to there advantage.

These modern day democrats could really look to the past for some advice. What they need is another 'Fat man' and 'Little boy' to get the job done once and for all. At least put them back into the stone age, since it seems they now have quite a collection of modern day boom sticks.

Two words....."czar bomba"

 

[somethingnuw]

Seems to me if they spent as much time" working" as burning flags,pitchin shoes,chanting, and shooting AK`s in the air........they would all be a lot better off....................

agreed ( for once)
to add to that... they all hated America now that they need them they love america... America thinks of themselves as a world police force... they put Sadam in power he used chemical weapons against his own people ( Kurds) America goes in... put a new minority group in power... when the fight is one... despite advanced systems.. they abandon everything and let a group of thugs with AK's take everything...

I say... America thanks for all your help but these people don't deserve your help anymore... you fixed the problem you created now they created their own... let them sort it out... if you have too go do a black ops and cx the damb leader... cut of the head of the snake so to speak... but for God sakes save your money your broke... and their will be a lot less world peace if America falls... IMHOP

If Isreal feels threatened trust me they will strike...support Isreal but don't go back into Iraq...

 

[Summiteer]

So we let Iran continue to develop there nuclear weapons program and leave Israel high and dry?

Israel is creating their own problems with their settlement expansion. What the hell do we owe Israel?

 

[somethingnuw]

Israel is creating their own problems with their settlement expansion. What the hell do we owe Israel?

the answer support... if Isreal put down their weapons tomorrow they would be murdered... if palastine and hesbolaha however you spell that terroist network put down their weapons their would be peace... i know what side i support

 

[pistoncontracting]

America thinks of themselves as a world police force...

Damed if ya do, damed if ya don't.

Who does the world look to, to deal with the bully's?? Up until now, it's been the US. I'd be willing to bet though, this is fast changing as it seems Russia is spending more then the 'Mericans are cutting on forces related.