I've rode doo for several years now and have been really happy with the product, including last year with a 850 that ran flawlessly! I was planning on running an 18 850 this year but recently been having second thoughts. After learning today of the cancellation of energy east and the pleasure taken by Quebec politicians from that result, as well as the endless government hand outs to that province at the west's expensive I'm seriously thinking of saying F you doo I'd rather support the hard working people of Minnesota!