Stop trying to screw the system when hauling!!!!

[Cyle]

The problem is, people need to research and learn for themselves.

Example, having a dodge 3500 SRW, you can haul the same a 3500 DRW, all legally and safely pending you get tires, etc for it. Or heck, dually conversion.

Now, you can't throw heavier tires on a 1500 and get a 2500 capacity.

You need to be informed and know the limits on your factory ratings and why they are that number, and if they can be exceeded by upgrading something or not. Some can, 100% safe, most cannot. I mean, if your tires are the limit and you upgrade you need to make sure your axle isn't going to be over or anything else.

And the biggest problem is, some people think if they can tow 10,000lbs and 1,500 payload. Thinking you can pull a 10,000lbs trailer and throw 1,500 payload in the box My jaw honestly dropped to the ground when a buddy of mine said that to me about his 1500. I couldn't believe someone would think that. And passengers are payload to!! Anything that puts weight on the trucks tires is payload.....

 

[maxwell]

i dont know why people buy 1500s. you cant even throw a load of dirt in there legally.

but i guess not everyone needs a 2500. untill they buy a toy and try to cheat

 

[Modman]

When the post is directed at me it's hard not to read! But I'm done now!

???? WTH?? What is directed at you? I have no problem adding names if I'm directing something at someone specifically.

If you are referring to your thread about payload question, you are mistaken. I thought you did a very good job of figuring out if you are legal or not, even emailing the DOT. That's how it should be done. Sorry if you felt offended. If I had any issue with your thread, I would have commented on it directly.

There's a lot of other threads on here about people overloading wheels etc., which is what I was referring to. Also, the constant stream of threads from people trying to justify using a 1/2 ton to do something it's not capable of, was also a strong point. I figured I should start a thread to link to when the question comes up every week, instead of typing my same response over and over and over and over.

 

[Cyle]

i dont know why people buy 1500s. you cant even throw a load of dirt in there legally.

but i guess not everyone needs a 2500. untill they buy a toy and try to cheat

I guess they like the extra fuel economy and better ride?

Dunno, I will never own a 1500 again. They are useless as a truck. The extra cost is nothing, maintaince nothing, and extra fuel is nothing.

Not to mention, IFS is GAY :d

 

[maxwell]

I guess they like the extra fuel economy and better ride?

Dunno, I will never own a 1500 again. They are useless as a truck. The extra cost is nothing, maintaince nothing, and extra fuel is nothing.

Not to mention, IFS is GAY :d

my work truck is ifs....2 of my friends trucks are ifs.....and all need front end work with less than 50,000. stock vvehicles.

 

[Transporter]

They all suck there is lots of solid axle one tonnes out there that need front end work too. When you use them on the farm and you have more off road miles than road miles they dont last.

 

[bigdaddy35]

Had to help a buddy move today

This is a story about a man named Jed... a poor mountain man, barely kept his family fed...:d

 

[teeroy]

This is a story about a man named Jed... a poor mountain man, barely kept his family fed...:d

mountaineer....

 

[shoppingcart111]

So your saying that the maybe (just throwing numbers out) 20% of people out there overloading a half ton truck has more serious implications to other people on the road than the 85% to 95% of people that drink and drive or TEXT AND DRIVE ? I' say there is a bigger problem then an overloaded halfton, how about the guys that sit their trailers at the end of the day and pound back the beers before leaving the staging areas? , are they less of a problem than a half ton with two sleds?

 

[Modman]

So your saying that the maybe (just throwing numbers out) 20% of people out there overloading a half ton truck has more serious implications to other people on the road than the 85% to 95% of people that drink and drive or TEXT AND DRIVE ? I' say there is a bigger problem then an overloaded halfton, how about the guys that sit their trailers at the end of the day and pound back the beers before leaving the staging areas? , are they less of a problem than a half ton with two sleds?

Not at all. I'm not going to get into the drinking and driving thing, that's been a dead horse on about 1000 threads and always turns into clusterfugg of opinions, but we are not comparing absolutes. There is a law against drinking and driving - for everyone. Same goes for texting and driving (in certain provinces).

For other interpretive laws - like weight restrictions - some guys can do it legally, some guys can't. There are those that can't, that think they can. Whether they know consciously or not is irrelevant. Wrong is still wrong. There are not some that can drink and drive and some that can't, that's an absolute law.

Do I think texting and driving is wrong? You bet. Do I think it probably causes a lot of deaths? You bet. Do I think it causes more deaths than overloaded trucks? Don't know, probably does. Is it stupid? You bet. Do I think there are some very scary people on the road who do other things like pass on corners in a snowstorm, read, eat, watch movies on their laptops (seen that one first hand), yell at the kids, play with their dog, etc, when they should be driving? You bet.

Probability wise - you could very well be right - texting and driving probably causes more accidents than overloaded half tons. Are the consequences just as severe for texting as being overweight? Absolutely.

Are there multiple threads on this site constantly asking if it's OK to text and drive/drink and drive/watch movies, etc? No.

Are there multiple threads on this site about how you can put a deck on a half ton? Yes.

My response to future threads of this question will be to reference this thread, which is why I started it. I didn't think peeps were going to hate on me for speaking out about being safe. Everyone's all over the idea of avy training, and both of these topics are safety related. My opinion is that safety doesn't just start at the trailhead once your sled is unloaded.

 

[AreWeThereYet]

A couple weeks ago I passed what looked to be about a '98 F150 ext cab towing about a 25ft fifth wheel PLUS towing a 14ft aluminum boat behind that.

That shiznit is crazy,.. not to mention the rear of the truck was way down so at night the dudes lights would be pointing up where he would not be able to see the road,..

The opinion I get from the mass majority is meh, "I can do it, so it must be okay."

 

[goodngrubby]

A couple weeks ago I passed what looked to be about a '98 F150 ext cab towing about a 25ft fifth wheel PLUS towing a 14ft aluminum boat behind that.

That shiznit is crazy,.. not to mention the rear of the truck was way down so at night the dudes lights would be pointing up where he would not be able to see the road,..

The opinion I get from the mass majority is meh, "I can do it, so it must be okay."

I agree, it's like a super-fat chick wearing spandex...just cause ya can, doesn't mean ya should.

 

[flabbajabba]

So your saying that the maybe (just throwing numbers out) 20% of people out there overloading a half ton truck has more serious implications to other people on the road than the 85% to 95% of people that drink and drive or TEXT AND DRIVE ? I' say there is a bigger problem then an overloaded halfton, how about the guys that sit their trailers at the end of the day and pound back the beers before leaving the staging areas? , are they less of a problem than a half ton with two sleds?

I'd say all poor habits cause "serious implications" I don't think you can say its okay to drive overloaded because people are doing worse things? I don't know how we got to drinking and driving now we're on texting. Since we are there I'd like to see texting banned everywhere! Cars-Schools-Bars-Malls-Work-Home EVERYWHERE! I have two teenage daughters who can't put thier stupid phones down.

 

[shoppingcart111]

All I was getting at was an overloaded half ton seems to be the only topic of discussion on here that can cause highway accidents when their are far worse and alot more frequent. And until everyone steps up and goes after the governing bodies to change the rules for the better it isn't going to change, the guys are stil going to load a half ton to gilles same as their going to drink and drive and text and drive so why keep posting about it. That is all.


Speaking of which I can't wait to overload my halfton with sleds and drive to the mountains for the first snowfall of the season drunk while texting to this board on my blackberrry.:d

 

[Transporter]

Yah on tires with only 30 percent tread left and in a snowstorm.

 

[shoppingcart111]

Yah on tires with only 30 percent tread left and in a snowstorm.

Dont forget under inflated tires and expired insurance.:d

 

[Transporter]

Not to mention cracks in the glass. I dont know why everyone doesnt just own f650's. Why everyone doesnt own $100 000.00 dollar rigs to haul their sleds to the mountain twice a year is beyond me.

 

[magnet]

Not to mention cracks in the glass. I dont know why everyone doesnt just own f650's. Why everyone doesnt own $100 000.00 dollar rigs to haul their sleds to the mountain twice a year is beyond me.

cause you cant buy a f650 4x4 from the factory. duhhhh!! lol.:d

 

[gotboost]

well just buy this one u wont be overloaded while pulling the 30 foot enclosed and u can take 8 buddies with u roll into the parking lot in style :d

 

[magnet]

thats sweet. we built a 650 for the red deer ford dealer. no fancy ext cab or nothin but it looked pretty sweet when done. 12" lift and a 10 000lb frt diff pretty much indestructable...... i say that only if Ron is not allowed to drive it.:d